Help How to angle a shotgun? (I have really short arms)

[SackOfCrap445]

Hey so I've decided that I'm going to use a Remington 870 shotgun to CTB with either #00 or slug shells. My main concern is how I can reach the trigger and whether or not a sawed off shotgun would be better (even though those are illegal in some areas and require additional paperwork/money). For context, I'm around 5'0 tall and the length of my arms (from my index finger to my shoulder) are around 18-20 inches, which is about the length of the barrel of a shotgun.

But it still feels pretty risky to try to angle the gun perfectly at my brainstem while the gun is in my mouth, and when I'm just barely reaching the trigger of the shotgun. Am I miscalculating anything? Will any of this matter or am I just being paranoid? Are there any other options for shotguns that are just as accessible (as well as cheap) as a Remington 870 but maybe shorter?

 

[suffering_mo]

Do not saw off the barrel of a shotgun. There's a guy on here that posted...he did that and decided not to end it. Turned thtgun into the police. He was charged and put in prison for 3 years for that.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

How have you been trying to reach the trigger? Are you setting the stock of the gun on the floor? Then sitting on the edge of a chair, placing the barrel into your mouth, and then reaching to see if you can reach the trigger? Obviously (I hope), you'd be "practicing" all this with an unloaded weapon. It would even be more secure to utilize the inside corner of 2 adjoining walls to place the stock of the gun and further stabilize the weapon.

Other options would include holding something in your hand to extend your reach and activate the trigger. Possibly a small-ish diameter metal rod with a notch filed into one end.

If I had to saw off the barrel, I would. I would just never turn the gun over to the police.

 

[SackOfCrap445]

How have you been trying to reach the trigger? Are you setting the stock of the gun on the floor? Then sitting on the edge of a chair, placing the barrel into your mouth, and then reaching to see if you can reach the trigger? Obviously (I hope), you'd be "practicing" all this with an unloaded weapon. It would even be more secure to utilize the inside corner of 2 adjoining walls to place the stock of the gun and further stabilize the weapon.

Other options would include holding something in your hand to extend your reach and activate the trigger. Possibly a small-ish diameter metal rod with a notch filed into one end.

If I had to saw off the barrel, I would. I would just never turn the gun over to the police.

I havent even bought the gun yet, I guess i should probably practice as you suggested before asking questions

Do not saw off the barrel of a shotgun. There's a guy on here that posted...he did that and decided not to end it. Turned thtgun into the police. He was charged and put in prison for 3 years for that.

Thanks for the heads up!

Hello I came across your post because I am also wondering how to aim in the mouth. Have you thought of using a pistol? Also I am a woman with a little bit of love left in her who is seeking a CTB connection. Not sure if you are man or woman but I thought I would put that out there.

Hey, yeah i personally ruled out using a pistol because in my opinion it may be a little too risky. The brain stem is kinda hard to aim at especially if you dont have experience with guns (like myself) and I also have only a vague idea of where the brain stem located. And in the moment, i dont trust myself to not accidently shoot myself at the wrong angle and end up in a world of pain due to being too nervous or overthinking. Whereas a shotgun can easily obliterate your head instantly, brain stem and all. Plus shotguns are relatively cheap imo, the one i want is only 400-600 dollars

Also im a 21 year old man just fyi XD

 

[Blurry_Buildings]

If I had to saw off the barrel, I would. I would just never turn the gun over to the police.

Not trying to encourage any illegal modifications, but can they even prosecute if someone decided to not end it and destroyed the sawed off instead?

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Not trying to encourage any illegal modifications, but can they even prosecute if someone decided to not end it and destroyed the sawed off instead?

What do you mean by "destroyed"? If you mean sawing it off, then yes. It's illegal to saw off the barrel of a shotgun, at least in the US. But, if someone backed out of ctb, how would anyone find out? If by destroyed you mean completely destroying the gun, I don't see why it would be illegal, as long as the gun wasn't used for illegal activities. Then it would be destruction of evidence or something similar. If you own something, you are certainly allowed to destroy your own property. This is not meant as legal advice, either

 

[Blurry_Buildings]

What do you mean by "destroyed"? If you mean sawing it off, then yes. It's illegal to saw off the barrel of a shotgun, at least in the US. But, if someone backed out of ctb, how would anyone find out? If by destroyed you mean completely destroying the gun, I don't see why it would be illegal, as long as the gun wasn't used for illegal activities. Then it would be destruction of evidence or something similar. If you own something, you are certainly allowed to destroy your own property. This is not meant as legal advice, either

I meant destroying the already sawed off shotgun. I was wondering how they could prosecute if the evidence was destroyed... but like you said I guess they probbaly couldn't. Either way 3 years for creating a sawed off that was voluntarily handed over seems very heavy handed. Is that a federal law?

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I meant destroying the already sawed off shotgun. I was wondering how they could prosecute if the evidence was destroyed... but like you said I guess they probbaly couldn't. Either way 3 years for creating a sawed off that was voluntarily handed over seems very heavy handed. Is that a federal law?

They couldn't prosecute with no evidence. What, like "melt it down with torches" destroy? Not sure if fed law. I'm guessing it is. It is very heavy handed.

 

[b1cycle]

Just a thought, put it in your mouth and pull the trigger with your toes? I don't know.

 

[Alexandra0]

The shotgun is more powerful and therefore better suited for ctb. For cartridges, I recommend buckshot. In no case should you cut the trunk, as stated above - this is illegal. If you cannot reach the hook with your fingers at all, then you can find a stick in the shape of the letter "L". The barrel must be inserted into the mouth at an angle of 45 degrees, aiming at the medulla oblongata. It is better to rest the butt on the ground for reliability. A bullet and a shock wave will cause severe destruction and death is guaranteed to you

 

[AflacDuck]

As long as you hit the cerebellum that should be lights out forever. Take some time to go over anatomy.

 

[rollingthunder]

I havent even bought the gun yet, I guess i should probably practice as you suggested before asking questions

Thanks for the heads up!

Hey, yeah i personally ruled out using a pistol because in my opinion it may be a little too risky. The brain stem is kinda hard to aim at especially if you dont have experience with guns (like myself) and I also have only a vague idea of where the brain stem located. And in the moment, i dont trust myself to not accidently shoot myself at the wrong angle and end up in a world of pain due to being too nervous or overthinking. Whereas a shotgun can easily obliterate your head instantly, brain stem and all. Plus shotguns are relatively cheap imo, the one i want is only 400-600 dollars

Also im a 21 year old man just fyi XD

If you have $400-600 to spend on a shotgun, you could consider looking into shotguns with shorter barrels. I'm not sure how long the barrel length on the Remington 870 is.

 

[Blurry_Buildings]

They couldn't prosecute with no evidence. What, like "melt it down with torches" destroy? Not sure if fed law. I'm guessing it is. It is very heavy handed.

Yeah I meant like "melt it down" or something lol. I didn't mentally picture a sawed off shotgun being destroyed since it still would function. Its just incredible to me how much the justice system inadvertantly destroys good people's lives sometimes. I looked it up and it said they are illegal because they can be easily concealed, are highly lethal at close range, and had "few legitimate uses", but I can't see how that is that different from 3 round burst fire guns or any pistol if you really got down to it..

...I guess you could always make an argument for less restrictions and an argument for banning all guns (as messy as both sound)