How hard to source potassium cyanide in US?

[heyismeman]

Does anyone have any advice for someone who's termantly ill to source PC in east coast. It would mean a lot truly. I don't care for SN.

 

[cme-dme]

What's wrong with SN? If there was an easy way to get potassium cyanide I feel like we would know about it. If I had to guess, DNM's are the way to go.

 

[regular john]

what are DNM's ?

 

[Darkover]

what are DNM's ?

dark net market place accessed by using tor browser

 

[NitrogenAfternoon]

Isn't cyanide one of the most painful methods to ctb? The PPH said as much too. I would much rather go with SN than that, but this your journey. I just don't quite understand it when there is a far more peaceful, accessible, and even cheaper option.

 

[regular john]

are you talking about sn ?

 

[Intoxicated]

Isn't cyanide one of the most painful methods to ctb? The PPH said as much too. I would much rather go with SN than that, but this your journey. I just don't quite understand it when there is a far more peaceful, accessible, and even cheaper option.

From "Final Exit: The Practicalities of Self-Deliverance and Assisted Suicide for the Dying" (1991) by Derek Humphry:

Hans Atrott has written to me that he knows of more than 300 people who have ended their lives with the use of cyanide to avoid further suffering. He has been present at several cases. His organization believes this is by far the best method though it has to be done with a certain sophistication.

Atrott says that correctly used, death by cyanide is by no means violent. It is quick and gentle. "Anybody who saw a correctly applied cyanide self-deliverance would want it for himself or herself," he claims. He blames cyanide's bad name on the failure in medical literature to distinguish between the properties of hydrogen cyanide (HCN) and potassium cyanide (KCN) and their differing usefulness. DGHS has learned both from medical scientists and experience that KCN alone is the useful agent in suicide. That is borne out by the stories I have researched elsewhere in the world. The recommended technique by DGHS is:

1. Take a small glass of cold tap water. (Not mineral water, nor any sort of juice or soda water because of its acidity.)

2. Stir one gram, or 1.5g at most, of KCN (potassium cyanide) into the water. (To use more than this amount would cause burning of the throat.)

3. After about five minutes the KCN is dissolved and ready to drink. It remains drinkable for several hours, but not more.

4. Once the potion is drunk, consciousness will be lost in about a minute. There will be just time to rinse out the glass (to ensure that no one else accidentally drinks from it) and lie down. But beware - a person extremely weakened by illness might black out in twenty seconds.

5. While in the coma, death will follow in fifteen minutes or at most forty-five minutes, depending on the physical strength of the person and whether the stomach is full or empty. An empty stomach promotes faster death.

6. During the coma period, the dying person will breathe heavily or snore, similar to people who have taken a lethal overdose of barbiturates.

Atrott notes that with a person who is seriously terminally ill, death is so peaceful that often doctors do not detect suicide, and sign the death certificate as being from natural causes. Of course, an autopsy would uncover this.

 

[NitrogenAfternoon]

From "Final Exit: The Practicalities of Self-Deliverance and Assisted Suicide for the Dying" (1991) by Derek Humphry:

Hans Atrott has written to me that he knows of more than 300 people who have ended their lives with the use of cyanide to avoid further suffering. He has been present at several cases. His organization believes this is by far the best method though it has to be done with a certain sophistication.

Atrott says that correctly used, death by cyanide is by no means violent. It is quick and gentle. "Anybody who saw a correctly applied cyanide self-deliverance would want it for himself or herself," he claims. He blames cyanide's bad name on the failure in medical literature to distinguish between the properties of hydrogen cyanide (HCN) and potassium cyanide (KCN) and their differing usefulness. DGHS has learned both from medical scientists and experience that KCN alone is the useful agent in suicide. That is borne out by the stories I have researched elsewhere in the world. The recommended technique by DGHS is:

1. Take a small glass of cold tap water. (Not mineral water, nor any sort of juice or soda water because of its acidity.)

2. Stir one gram, or 1.5g at most, of KCN (potassium cyanide) into the water. (To use more than this amount would cause burning of the throat.)

3. After about five minutes the KCN is dissolved and ready to drink. It remains drinkable for several hours, but not more.

4. Once the potion is drunk, consciousness will be lost in about a minute. There will be just time to rinse out the glass (to ensure that no one else accidentally drinks from it) and lie down. But beware - a person extremely weakened by illness might black out in twenty seconds.

5. While in the coma, death will follow in fifteen minutes or at most forty-five minutes, depending on the physical strength of the person and whether the stomach is full or empty. An empty stomach promotes faster death.

6. During the coma period, the dying person will breathe heavily or snore, similar to people who have taken a lethal overdose of barbiturates.

Atrott notes that with a person who is seriously terminally ill, death is so peaceful that often doctors do not detect suicide, and sign the death certificate as being from natural causes. Of course, an autopsy would uncover this.

If that's how it is, I definitely see the appeal. Just one minute and sometimes can even be 20 seconds? I could manage the worst pain of my life for 20 seconds. That is incredible. I would love to ctb this way. One drink and that's it. You don't have time to have that regret. Accessibility remains a huge obstacle though.

 

[Intoxicated]

Just one minute and sometimes can even be 20 seconds?

I wouldn't count on 20 seconds in case of oral ingestion. If you want nearly guaranteed LOC from a poisonous substance so quickly, you'd need to either inhale HCN (or other rapidly acting gas like H2S or CO) or use an IV injection of some potent poison/drug.

I could manage the worst pain of my life for 20 seconds.

I suspect that most accounts of distress from rapid cyanide poisoning may be associated with panic attacks rather than an actual physical pain.

 

[heyismeman]

From "Final Exit: The Practicalities of Self-Deliverance and Assisted Suicide for the Dying" (1991) by Derek Humphry:

Hans Atrott has written to me that he knows of more than 300 people who have ended their lives with the use of cyanide to avoid further suffering. He has been present at several cases. His organization believes this is by far the best method though it has to be done with a certain sophistication.

Atrott says that correctly used, death by cyanide is by no means violent. It is quick and gentle. "Anybody who saw a correctly applied cyanide self-deliverance would want it for himself or herself," he claims. He blames cyanide's bad name on the failure in medical literature to distinguish between the properties of hydrogen cyanide (HCN) and potassium cyanide (KCN) and their differing usefulness. DGHS has learned both from medical scientists and experience that KCN alone is the useful agent in suicide. That is borne out by the stories I have researched elsewhere in the world. The recommended technique by DGHS is:

1. Take a small glass of cold tap water. (Not mineral water, nor any sort of juice or soda water because of its acidity.)

2. Stir one gram, or 1.5g at most, of KCN (potassium cyanide) into the water. (To use more than this amount would cause burning of the throat.)

3. After about five minutes the KCN is dissolved and ready to drink. It remains drinkable for several hours, but not more.

4. Once the potion is drunk, consciousness will be lost in about a minute. There will be just time to rinse out the glass (to ensure that no one else accidentally drinks from it) and lie down. But beware - a person extremely weakened by illness might black out in twenty seconds.

5. While in the coma, death will follow in fifteen minutes or at most forty-five minutes, depending on the physical strength of the person and whether the stomach is full or empty. An empty stomach promotes faster death.

6. During the coma period, the dying person will breathe heavily or snore, similar to people who have taken a lethal overdose of barbiturates.

Atrott notes that with a person who is seriously terminally ill, death is so peaceful that often doctors do not detect suicide, and sign the death certificate as being from natural causes. Of course, an autopsy would uncover this.

Are you sure you didn't mix between hydrogen and potassium i was under the impression that potassium cyanide was the painful one and hydrogen the quick one