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job1315

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Oct 25, 2020
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I would like to know if it comes in nondescript packaging? So that my roommates will not see it / open it. Thanks.
 
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I want to end it

Arcanist
Apr 29, 2018
475
Have there been any reported cases of this thing working?

Sorry I don't know the answer to your question.
 
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Trojan

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It is packed in a plain cardboard box like any other shipped package. The rebreather itself is in what looks like a small piece of luggage. I was very impressed with the way it was put together.
 
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job1315

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Oct 25, 2020
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It is packed in a plain cardboard box like any other shipped package. The rebreather itself is in what looks like a small piece of luggage. I was very impressed with the way it was put together.
Does it have any labels on it that might tell a person what it does? I have witnessed people at the house accidentally open others' packages. Thanks!
 
eternalmelancholy

eternalmelancholy

waiting for the bus
Mar 24, 2021
1,169
Have there been any reported cases of this thing working?

I want to know what the advantages this has over a proven method like an exit bag hooked up to a nitrogen tank. Is this all theoretical or are there proven cases of this thing working?

It just sounds too good to be true.
 
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Thatdude

Life is temporary, death is permanent
Sep 26, 2019
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Have there been any reported cases of this thing working?

Sorry I don't know the answer to your question.
how recent are the reports? It looks like they changed the design
 
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Trojan

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Apr 28, 2021
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There is nothing on the labeling that indicates what it does. The advantage it has is that it is easy to get and there is very little prep before it is used. There are cases that the old version worked but there was problems with the seal of the mask. The new version has addressed this problem by including 3 sizes of masks with inflatable cushions for better fit. I don't know if this new version will work or not but was willing to spend $190.00 + shipping of $49.50 to find out. Maybe it's not for everyone but I have nothing to lose. There are always alternatives and I'm in no hurry. The latest PPH has a whole chapter devoted to it.
 
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I want to end it

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I want to know what the advantages this has over a proven method like an exit bag hooked up to a nitrogen tank. Is this all theoretical or are there proven cases of this thing working?

It just sounds too good to be true.
Yes it does sound too good to be true.
how recent are the reports? It looks like they changed the design
I don't know. I am only asking because I have not heard of any proven cases yet.
 
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Thatdude

Life is temporary, death is permanent
Sep 26, 2019
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I don't know. I am only asking because I have not heard of any proven cases yet.
Wouldn't that mean it worked

But ya I haven't heard anything, but idk if it's wide spread enough
 
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I want to end it

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Apr 29, 2018
475
Wouldn't that mean it worked But ya I haven't heard anything, but idk if it's wide spread enough
For other methods, there are people who did them and said "if I have not returned in the next few days, you can assume it works". I don't think that has happened for this method.
 
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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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What happens if you stop the method during the process brain damahe?
 
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Trojan

Member
Apr 28, 2021
78
I don't know. If you are able to stop it that presumably means you are conscious. If you are conscious there shouldn't be brain damage, but I'm no expert.
 
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tiredoflife1964

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Sep 5, 2021
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Yes it does sound too good to be true.

I don't know. I am only asking because I have not heard of any proven cases yet.
This is from page 81 of the PPH (August e-edition)….


The 2020 model of the R2D DeBreather has been in the US by a Final Exit Network research team and by Exit International in the Netherlands. testing involve monitoring the level of oxygen and carbon dioxide the system. The unit was checked for ease of positioning of the chin strap, the effective sealing of the face-mask, and the overall comfort of the R2D.





US tests had three volunteers breathing down the oxygen to the pre-determined point of 14% which is equivalent to an altitude of 3000 meters. As one FEN researcher, Neal Nicol said, 'the mask was comfortable and it too only a few minutes to get the O2 level down, dropping at a rate of - 25 /min.There ws no significant rise in CO2 level and no leakage detected, even with a beard'. Time to loss of consciousness was predicted to take 10 mins.





In the Netherlands, an air pump circulated 12 litres of air through the closed system @2 litres/minute. A buying candle was used in the experiment - a candle consumes oxygen at approximately the same rate as an adult (250 ml/min). Level of oxygen and carbon dioxide in the system were monitored. Again, no detectable rise in CO2 was detected and the oxygen level dropped steadily until the flame was extinguished.





In all trials, when the facemask was fitted and the DeBreather attached it was found to be comfortable and breathing was easy. With the R2D Facemask it is possible to recline comfortably (unlike with the Exit Bag)





This means the DeBreather could be used outside, at the beach, in the forest etc. One could lie back and gaze at the stars. Drifting to one's death.



The original (1998) De-Breather was about 80% efficient (80% successful deaths) so the (2017) improved version that ships now should be even better.
 
Walilamdzii

Walilamdzii

Mage
Sep 19, 2021
585
What size box is it though? I would need an excuse for what the package looks like.

Anyone got any updates on how the R2D rebreather is seeming?
 

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