Ambivalent1

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Realistically in the sense that you don't sit by a tree for years to achieve this state or follow some vague eightfold path.
 
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Enlightenment A Scam
nobody has ever achived Enlightenment

Buddhists believe that human life is a cycle of suffering and rebirth, but that if one achieves a state of enlightenment (nirvana), it is possible to escape this cycle forever. Siddhartha Gautama was the first person to reach this state of enlightenment and was, and is still today, known as the Buddha.

when you die your nothing forever or rebirth there's no escaping this fate
 
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When it is seen that nothing really exists... 245871913 10158535844653131 1755984434410468210 n
 
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Last year, after I have been diagnosed with devastating spinal disease (which leads me to CTB), has totally changed me as a person. Suddenly, everything has fallen in place, the puzzle has been solved. I've found my identity, despite it being too late. I would call it something like enlightenment.
 
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Ambivalent1

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Last year, after I have been diagnosed with devastating spinal disease (which leads me to CTB), has totally changed me as a person. Suddenly, everything has fallen in place, the puzzle has been solved. I've found my identity, despite it being too late. I would call it something like enlightenment.
What's it feel like?
 
Cryptonite

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What's it feel like?
It feels like deeply realizing who I am, what is important to me and what is not, what my life mission should be (if I did not have the disease). I feel I´ve grown more empathy, compassion, gratitude and certain kind of calmness.
 
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It feels like deeply realizing who I am, what is important to me and what is not, what my life mission should be (if I did not have the disease). I feel I´ve grown more empathy, compassion, gratitude and certain kind of calmness.
That's just maturity
 
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Can you define enlightenment please? Just a word that can have a wide spectrum of meanings for a wide spectrum of individuals.

If you're talking about internal peace, meditation does help, but it could take weeks, months, or longer to get really good at, and it can be near impossible to practice when suffering from mental health ailments that require serious treatment
 
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Can you define enlightenment please? Just a word that can have a wide spectrum of meanings for a wide spectrum of individuals.

If you're talking about internal peace, meditation does help, but it could take weeks, months, or longer to get really good at, and it can be near impossible to practice when suffering from mental health ailments that require serious treatment
Yeah my mind is a tumult. So no hope?
 
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macrocosm

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Yeah my mind is a tumult. So no hope?
Well if it requires medical treatment, that's one thing. But just like anything else, you can get better at something with time and practice. Yes you can calm a Tumultuous mind with meditation, but don't expect it overnight. You can try using apps like Calm to guide you. Meditation is real and it's positive effects are real, but it takes time and effort
 
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I'm not sure that the Buddha did reach enlightenment. (I'm not even sure that the phrase "reachig enlightenment" actually means anything.) Yes, I know that the Buddhist scriptures say that he did. But you can't believe everything you read in old books. The bible says that Jesus walked on water, and I don't believe that either. If we want to figure out our place in the world, I think we have to do it ourselves. No point looking for answers from people who were no better informed than we are. When I was much younger I studied what all the major world religions had to say about these kinds of things, and I didn't find any of them convincing.
 
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I'm not sure that the Buddha did reach enlightenment. (I'm not even sure that the phrase "reachig enlightenment" actually means anything.) Yes, I know that the Buddhist scriptures say that he did. But you can't believe everything you read in old books. The bible says that Jesus walked on water, and I don't believe that either. If we want to figure out our place in the world, I think we have to do it ourselves. No point looking for answers from people who were no better informed than we are. When I was much younger I studied what all the major world religions had to say about these kinds of things, and I didn't find any of them convincing.
I can't lead myself. I don't know where to take myself
 
Linda

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I can't lead myself. I don't know where to take myself
I would suggest that you don't even try. Just live your life. Some of the issues you are thinking about now will become clearer over time. Most of them won't, but that's simply the human condition.
 
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I would suggest that you don't even try. Just live your life. Some of the issues you are thinking about now will become clearer over time. Most of them won't, but that's simply the human condition.
That should be taught to all kids.
 
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iamalreadydead

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the only truly enlightened people are dead
 
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the only truly enlightened people are dead
That's clever. It's interesting that Nirvana resembles oblivion. We all will be enlightened without having to do extra steps. Buddha was a scam artist.
 
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