How does one prepare for what comes after death?

[sserafim]

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[divinemistress36]

Maybe do some psychadelics beforehand?

 

[sserafim]

Maybe do some psychadelics beforehand?

No, I mean like escaping the soul trap/reincarnation cycle. I heard that you should avoid the light, but I don't think that will be enough. Someone linked a website on here and I read it, but I still don't feel like that's enough information. Is there any preparation I should do apart from like reading up on NDE's and stuff?

 

[DreamEnd]

No, I mean like escaping the soul trap/reincarnation cycle. I heard that you should avoid the light, but I don't think that will be enough. Someone linked a website on here and I read it, but I still don't feel like that's enough information…is there any preparation I should do? Apart from like reading up on NDE's and stuff

Maybe take psychedelics yeah. You will quickly realize that your reincarnation trap theory is bullshit and that you are part of everything and will return to the source

Life is meant to be lived. Don't trust any religious dogma that tells you you ought to do this or that to prepare. It's bullshit and not rooted in reality.

 

[sserafim]

Maybe take psychedelics yeah. You will quickly realize that your reincarnation trap theory is bullshit and that you are part of everything and will return to the source

Life is meant to be lived. Don't trust any religious dogma that tells you you ought to do this or that to prepare. It's bullshit and not rooted in reality.

I don't want to be reincarnated though…I've already suffered and endured enough in this life

 

[DreamEnd]

I don't want to be reincarnated though…I've already suffered and endured enough in this life

Idk about reincarnation but just think this. If you believe in the afterlife i don't think you are actually forced to do anything there. So if you choose not to reincarnate then that's your choice and you won't. Thinking that somehow Earth is a prison and we are recycled after we die and come back again. Yeah I don't believe there is any logic or truth to it

 

[divinemistress36]

No, I mean like escaping the soul trap/reincarnation cycle. I read online to avoid the light but I don't think that will be enough. Someone linked a website on here and I read it, but I still don't feel like that's enough information…

Idk about reincarnation but just think this. If you believe in the afterlife i don't think you are actually forced to do anything there. So if you choose not to reincarnate then that's your choice and you won't. Thinking that somehow Earth is a prison and we are recycled after we die and come back again. Yeah I don't believe there is any logic or truth to it

I think if reincarnation is true then it's up to our soul if we choose to as well

 

[Final_Choice]

In my opinion, you don't. Just go with the flow and pass away as peacefully as possible. There's nothing you can really do to prepare for what comes AFTER death. There's a lot of speculation and theories for what happens after death, but no proof for any of them.

 

[OldDrummer]

Karma is about as impossible to escape as gravity. If you CTB, travel lightly and gently. Don't do it with the intent of making others suffer.

 

[TiredOfAllThis]

No, I mean like escaping the soul trap/reincarnation cycle. I heard that you should avoid the light, but I don't think that will be enough. Someone linked a website on here and I read it, but I still don't feel like that's enough information. Is there any preparation I should do apart from like reading up on NDE's and stuff?

NDEs are just hallucinations. Once your brain is not functioning, there's no "you"

 

[MyChoiceAlone]

i'm hoping for complete nothingness. i don't want to have to die over and over. there are 8 billion people today. there weren't that maybe even a hundred years ago. so what did we reincarnate from?
isn't that creepy though? say you gave birth. are you gonna sit there and wonder who you gave birth to? someone previously famous?

 

[KANCEL]

I wouldn't worry. There is likely no afterlife.
If we have a soul, which I doubt, it can't be eternal. Eternity has no beginning.

 

[joeschmo]

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I know exactly how you feel, to not want to exist again due to the very high chance that your next existence will also be full of suffering.
There two ways to look at it, and unfortunately neither one are good, but the belief in a "creator" is at least a little comforting (i.e. there is choice).

The atheist:
The universe forced you into this existence, and if "reincarnation" is real, then there is absolutely nothing you can do about once again being forced into existence. And given what we know about evolution, there is a VERY high chance that your next life will also be full of suffering.
Keep in mind that reincarnation (from a scientific point of view) is not what you think it is. There is NO existence after you die, as in, there is no "in between" this existence and the next one because you ARE the "conscious experiencer", and that identity entirely depends on a brain (and once a brain is gone, so are you).
So when I speak of "reincarnation", I mean your *conscious experience*. That can, if reincarnation is real, exist again. But it would happen instantly because when you cease to exist there is no time, thus a billion years could pass before you are thrown back into existence (i.e. being conscious again).

Belief in a "creator":
There IS an "in between", and you can CHOOSE whether to continue or not. Not only that, but suffering will be explained to you, why it is necessary on so many levels, and why it's necessary for us to "come back". E.g., perhaps THIS life on THIS planet is a cancerous tumor, and we are INSIDE that tumor. We came here with the purpose to HEAL it, knowing full well that it will come with a lot of suffering and challenges (of course, it's a tumor). Since your true nature is that of love, you naturally accept suffering in exchange for healing. It's what altruistic ppl do (e.g. Doctors Without Borders).

Anyways, I said that both options are not good, and that's because (to me) a creator that is so powerful SHOULD be able to empower the moral life-forms on any planet and inhibit the immoral predators from gaining too much power. So either the "creator" (the religious type of loving god) is limited in power/ability (so it depends on US to create a beautiful world), or the "creator" is simply Extra-terrestrials (it's what we call "them" from OUR human point of view) who are so advanced that they created a "matrix" within which we all exist, and WE are those "ET's" before "plugging in". In that case, life THERE could either be so bad that we want to escape it by plugging into a matrix, or so boring that we entertain ourselves within this matrix.

Anyways, how to escape reincarnation? Hope that either there is a loving creator that can explain why suffering is necessary, or that life as those "ET's" is amazing, and that you can simply choose to stay there instead of plugging into another matrix.

If there is no "creator" then there is literally nothing you can do about it, you WILL be forced back into existence, an existence full of suffering, and a universe that doesn't give a sh1t if you suffer or not because it doesn't have a mind in its own to feel that way.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

I don't know about escaping reincarnation because supposedly the only way to do that is to reach enlightenment which sounds way too difficult. Buddhism and Hinduism seem to agree that living a perfect life or at least being the best version of yourself is the only way out but again, that all seems too annoying to attempt.

 

[Forever Sleep]

You can't really prepare for something you don't know is going to happen and know nothing about. All you can really do is brace yourself for the unknown.

Still, if you feel like reincarnation is likely then- I guess- study Buddhism. Isn't that where those ideas originate? I imagine that religion will tell you how to live and die for the best outcome.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

In my case, I've made peace with death as I believe that life after death is just permanent non existence. I believe this is correct but, even if it isn't, I'll still believe in it as we all have to die anyway. It's better to believe in something that relaxes you. That something is definitely not reincarnation though, even under reincarnation, once you are dead, your current life will permanently come to an end whereas your new life, with no memory transfer from your old life to your new one, will begin. Even under reincarnation, once current you is dead, you may as well consider you as being dead permanently as the other lives you'll have will just be a clean slate

Out of curiosity, may I ask as to why you believe in reincarnation? From your other posts, you seem to be fully against religion and reincarnation feels like a religious belief to me

 

[Guy Smiley]

There's no reason to worry about being reincarnated, just like there's no reason to worry about going to heaven or hell. There isn't one iota of scientific evidence to support these things. So why worry about things that have absolutely no real evidence of existing?

 

[DreamEnd]

NDEs are just hallucinations. Once your brain is not functioning, there's no "you"

I wouldn't brush them off as hallucinations. There are cases where a person was completely unconscious in the surgery room yet after they came back to consciousness they could explain in detail what was going on in that room while they were out

 

[DesperateOne]

If you want my honest answer all of that is most likely bs. You will just drop in nothingness and that's it. If there is reincarnation you won't remember your previous life anyways.

 

[DreamEnd]

If you want my honest answer all of that is most likely bs. You will just drop in nothingness and that's it. If there is reincarnation you won't remember your previous life anyways.

I agree 100%. Most don't remember what they did when they were 2 so how the fuck would anyone be able to remember what happened before birth. We could have already been reincarnated 100000 times or it might have all just been non existence for billion years

 

[sserafim]

In my case, I've made peace with death as I believe that life after death is just permanent non existence. I believe this is correct but, even if it isn't, I'll still believe in it as we all have to die anyway. It's better to believe in something that relaxes you. That something is definitely not reincarnation though, even under reincarnation, once you are dead, your current life will permanently come to an end whereas your new life, with no memory transfer from your old life to your new one, will begin. Even under reincarnation, once current you is dead, you may as well consider you as being dead permanently as the other lives you'll have will just be a clean slate

Out of curiosity, may I ask as to why you believe in reincarnation? From your other posts, you seem to be fully against religion and reincarnation feels like a religious belief to me

I honestly don't know, I guess I'm into spiritual stuff. I'm against the Abrahamic religions because they seem to be corrupt and ways to control people (they even had to separate church and state).

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I honestly don't know, I guess I'm into spiritual stuff. I'm against the Abrahamic religions because they seem to be corrupt and ways to control people (they even had to separate church and state).

Fair enough. That's a good of an answer as any. The main religions are shit and extremely so. Whilst I don't believe in spirituality as a whole, I don't mind people believing in it as long as it isn't religion based

 

[Captive_Mind515]

You need to go into training, like an ancient warrior. Train your body and mind, learning high level hand to hand combat and sword fighting skills… turning yourself into a deadly weapon!

Only then will you be ready to take on the final big boss and progress to the next level… good luck!

 

[divinemistress36]

I honestly don't know, I guess I'm into spiritual stuff. I'm against the Abrahamic religions because they seem to be corrupt and ways to control people (they even had to separate church and state).

I understand I am to..if a spiritual practice give you peace then go with it.

 

[Guy Smiley]

I wouldn't brush them off as hallucinations. There are cases where a person was completely unconscious in the surgery room yet after they came back to consciousness they could explain in detail what was going on in that room while they were out

I don't want to completely discount anyone's beliefs because, just like everyone else, I don't know with any certainty what happens after death (it's literally impossible to know). But these "cases" you mentioned are just anecdotes. Even if any of them were true, there are plenty of logical ways to explain it that are far more likely than something supernatural occurring.

Also, for every one person who claims they had some kind of near-death experience, there are far more (by orders of magnitude) people who flatlined and were revived and didn't experience anything at all. Why would only a tiny fraction of people who flatlined and were revived experience a (real) afterlife?

So, although it can't be scientifically proven that there isn't an afterlife or that people who flatlined and said they experienced it were just hallucinating, we know for a fact that hallucinations exist, whereas the concept of an afterlife is merely a guess (without one iota of scientific evidence to support it). Hallucinations are simply much more likely to explain people's near-death experiences than is supernatural stuff.

 

[Ambivalent1]

The same way you prepare for sleep each night. You don't dream all night

 

[DreamEnd]

I don't want to completely discount anyone's beliefs because, just like everyone else, I don't know with any certainty what happens after death (it's literally impossible to know). But these "cases" you mentioned are just anecdotes. Even if any of them were true, there are plenty of logical ways to explain it that are far more likely than something supernatural occurring.

Also, for every one person who claims they had some kind of near-death experience, there are far more (by orders of magnitude) people who flatlined and were revived and didn't experience anything at all. Why would only a tiny fraction of people who flatlined and were revived experience a (real) afterlife?

So, although it can't be scientifically proven that there isn't an afterlife or that people who flatlined and said they experienced it were just hallucinating, we know for a fact that hallucinations exist, whereas the concept of an afterlife is merely a guess (without one iota of scientific evidence to support it). Hallucinations are simply much more likely to explain people's near-death experiences than are supernatural stuff.

Well our life is a hallucination too. Just because you tap into a different frequency through the usage of psychedelics or naturally through kundalini yoga doesn't deny the reality of existence of these frequencies. Most people who consume lsd and have a mythical experience start to believe in a higher power. You can brush it off as a hallucination but I definitely think there is more to this existence than what can be measured by science

Regarding these stories. These are actual accounts from the surgeons and patients that are documented. You can't really rationally explain them.

 

[sserafim]

The same way you prepare for sleep each night. You don't dream all night

Wdym? What if reincarnation's real though?

 

[Guy Smiley]

...I definitely think there is more to this existence than what can be measured by science

I agree with that. There are of course a lot of things that science hasn't been able to measure yet. As time goes by and science advances, we're able to measure more and more things, but there are things that will never be measured no matter how long humans are around for because it's simply impossible to (such as the concept of an afterlife).

 

[divinemistress36]

Well our life is a hallucination too. Just because you tap into a different frequency through the usage of psychedelics or naturally through kundalini yoga doesn't deny the reality of existence of these frequencies. Most people who consume lsd and have a mythical experience start to believe in a higher power. You can brush it off as a hallucination but I definitely think there is more to this existence than what can be measured by science

Regarding these stories. These are actual accounts from the surgeons and patients that are documented. You can't really rationally explain them.

Psychadelics dissolve our ego temporarily. You can't think logically on them and there's a lot science can't explain . I agree with this