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I was browsing this forum and came across a post which said that what you believe manifests on the other side. How can I make myself believe in heaven? I want to go there after I die
 
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I was browsing this forum and came across a post that said that the other side is like what you believed/thought it to be. How can I make myself believe in heaven? I want to go there after I die
I don't know about heaven but if you truly wanna have a spiritual experience that makes you feel like you've transcended this life and been transported to another realm, look into attending an ayahuasca retreat, there are some that happen in the US nowadays and they are definitely life-changing, my ayahuasca journey felt so real that it damn near turned me into a believer that there is more to this world and our lives than meet the eye.
 
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I don't know about heaven but if you truly wanna have a spiritual experience that makes you feel like you've transcended this life and been transported to another realm, look into attending an ayahuasca retreat, there are some that happen in the US nowadays and they are definitely life-changing, my ayahuasca journey felt so real that it damn near turned me into a believer that there is more to this world and our lives than meet the eye.
Thanks for the suggestion, but I meant that I want to actually believe in heaven and paradise. I'm skeptical by nature and have trouble believing in things without proof or evidence. I'm also a natural pessimist. The user said that whatever beliefs you have about the afterlife will manifest into reality, so I want to believe in heaven in order to go there once I reach the other side
 
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I meant that I want to actually believe in heaven and paradise. I'm skeptical by nature and have trouble believing in things without proof. I'm also a natural pessimist. The user said that whatever beliefs you have about the afterlife will manifest into reality, so I want to believe in heaven in order to go there once I reach the other side
okay, can I ask why you think the user is right about beliefs manifesting themselves in the afterlife ? Or do you want it to be true ? Cause for all we know there may be no afterlife, are you saying in case it's there ?
 
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okay, can I ask why you think the user is right about beliefs manifesting themselves in the afterlife ? Or do you want it to be true ? Cause for all we know there may be no afterlife, are you saying in case it's there ?
Honestly, I want there to be non-existence after I die and no afterlife but on the off chance that there is something I'd want to go to heaven
 
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I read something that claimed that a certain part of the brain is responsible for people being able to believe in god/s. Apparently I damaged that. Would you really want to be conscious for eternity? I think it'd get really boring.
 
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Rev346

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You either believe or you don't. If you don't believe then look for facts and reproducible evidence to change your mind. It's difficult to force yourself to believe in anything without some kind of facts or evidence to back it up.
 
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You can't force yourself to believe in anything. Deep down inside, you'll always find yourself having doubts about it. For instance, when I was younger I used to hate my appearance so much that I kept on trying to convince myself that subliminals worked because I was desperate to change it. Deep down inside, I knew it was all bullshit and I would constantly find that part of myself clawing its way into my conscious mind no matter how hard I tried to believe.

You can't make yourself believe in heaven. You either believe in it or you don't.
 
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I read something that claimed that a certain part of the brain is responsible for people being able to believe in god/s. Apparently I damaged that. Would you really want to be conscious for eternity? I think it'd get really boring.

It is. The propensity, or lack thereof, to believe in the supernatural is a genetic trait. Studies done with twins separated at birth have shown that even if they are raised in different religions, the importance they attribute to it, how much it impacts their lives and decisions, is similar. Some people are hardwired to believe in fantasies and some are not.

Btw, even if you could convince yourself to believe in heaven, wouldn't it come with the downside that there's possibly also hell? Why risk ending up there? Personally, I find nothingness far more reassuring.
 
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Unironically, go watch The Good Place which should be on Netflix at the moment. Their version of heaven and the afterlife at the end of the show after they've already fixed all of the problems with heaven and hell is literally the perfect afterlife. That show has done more to make me comfortable with dying than any post on Sasu could ever hope to achieve. If God is real and truly as omnipotent and omniscient as claimed, then He should be smart enough to base the afterlife off of that show's final version.
 
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ijustwishtodie

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Delusion. As for how to be delusional, I don't know. It's easier for some people than others to be delusional. Sadly it's be extremely hard for you to be delusional because you value the truth a lot and you prefer the truth even if it's uncomfortable
 
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take a look at the philosophy of solipsism. everything is what you make of.
 
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Hell can be cool too, like the series "hazbin hotel"
 
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I was browsing this forum and came across a post which said that what you believe manifests on the other side. How can I make myself believe in heaven? I want to go there after I die
Seems to me that what you believe has no effect whatever on reality. You can't believe things into existence. As for heaven, like you I see no evidence for it, or for any kind of afterlife, so there is no reason to suppose that either exists, so I don't believe that either exists.
Have you ever thought seriously about what immortality would be like? It would soon become terribly boring. Non-existence is much better.
 
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Do your research. There is so much evidence and proof that God is real. If you honestly are open and seeking.
 
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I rely on myself, without the aid of spirituality, to cope with things. I trust those who conduct research and contribute to the well-being and understanding of others. In my opinion, belief in heaven is not feasible if one is born with a different mindset.
 
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I watch near death experiences on YouTube and they all say they feel love and peace when their soul leaves their body, sees heaven
 
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this might sound corny but if you study philosophers that argue for the immortality of the soul (plato is a good start) you'll be convinced pretty quickly of a heaven or an afterlife, because what they say in general is simple logic.
 
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locked*n*loaded

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"How do you make yourself believe in heaven?"

Take loads of psychedelic drugs and completely lose your mind and sense of reason...........
 
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In some sects of Christianity, God has already predetermined who will go to heaven before they are even born. (Calvinism) That suggests you can't think yourself into heaven.
 
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Do your research. There is so much evidence and proof that God is real. If you honestly are open and seeking.
Please give some starting points.
 
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Here are some good ones: The Case for Christ: A Journalist's Personal Investigation of the Evidence for Jesus by Lee Strobel, He also wrote The Case for a Creator. He was a journalist and atheist before he started doing his research. Evidence for Christianity by Josh McDowell, Jesus and His World: The Archeological Evidence by Craig A Evans. Excavating the Evidence for Jesus: The Archaeology and History of Christ and the Gospels by Dr. Titus Kennedy. Any of these would be very helpful.
 
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People report believing in afterlife more after doing psychadelics
 
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Please give some starting points.
I forgot to add this book and he wrote 3 I think. This gentleman was unbelievable. Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus: A Devout Muslim Encounters Christianity. Sorry I also forgot to quote you so please check out the other references I listed above.
 
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I used to be religious and can understand your need for there to be a better place than here. That's the whole point of religion. However, if you knock someone out, they become temporarily unconscious and don't have any conscious experiences. Death, therefore, is the permanent and irreversible blackout of our consciousness. How are we to experience heaven when our five physical senses have been irreversibly knocked out?
 
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Slough Walker

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How can I make myself believe in heaven? I want to go there after I die
You can start by imagining a more plausible heaven. Did you ever have a beloved pet that died? Many people deal with grief over a dead pet by believing in the Rainbow Bridge, a pet heaven where pets wait for their humans who have died to come pick them up and take them into eternity. This is an appealing belief to many people, even people who consider themselves skeptics or agnostics. Grief over a loved one - even a non-human loved one - can be more real, raw, and painful than mere awareness of one's own eventual death. If you've lost a pet, if you still miss that pet, and if you can convince yourself that your pet is waiting for you in pet heaven just over the Rainbow Bridge, then it's a small step from that to believing that you'll go to human heaven.
 
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At the end of the day, only you can choose what to believe in, or more specifically, your brain. If, deep down, you don't even believe slightly in Heaven then I'd say there's no point in even chasing it. But hey, you can always try to forcefully convince yourself.
 
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MrShino

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I think you need the Holy Spirit if you don't want to just make-believe. He can give you the assurance by faith in Jesus Christ. At least that's my belief. After all, you decide what to believe, and I think it is much better to believe in God and Heaven than to believe you just fade away to nothingness. Better to believe in God and be proven wrong in the end than believing in nothing and then be proven wrong in my opinion.
 
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