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byebyeblondie

byebyeblondie

Member
Jun 24, 2023
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I'm incredibly naive and take people at face value. I've been royally screwed over and treated badly on so many occasions. I've been promised the world but given hell.

I have so many insecurities they could eat me alive but I have BPD and I crave someone to love me.

I don't want to let the wrong people in again but I can't tell who is genuine and I seem to attract bad people :( I fall for people fast and I do dumb stuff that most normal people wouldn't do. I hate that. I hate me.
 
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Bootleg Astolfo

Glorious Bean Plushie
Oct 12, 2020
1,126
I usually just make sure to have such a comedic amount of blackmail material on people that they have no choice but to not fuck with me lmao. Exeptions are only made for a few very rare people (whomst are hard to get blackmail worthy stuff on aniways)
 
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bankai

bankai

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Mar 16, 2025
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Time. It takes time. People will always reveal themselves overtime. You have to give it time and understand them and they will give it away eventually if they aren't genuine.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
15,354
I'm not sure you can ever be sure. People I've known for years have still suprised me- usually in a bad way. Even family members. I came to the horrible conclusion years back that you could only truly rely on yourself. If people are supportive then great- enjoy it in the moment. Just don't be lulled into relying on it always.

I find that now, I pull myself back. So- I might perhaps arrange to do something say, (although, that hasn't happened in years!) but, I'll remind myself not to set my heart on it. It will be nice if it happens but, it won't surprise me if it doesn't. That goes for work too. So many projects don't get off the ground.

I also had to recognise in myself that I was wanting too much from a friend (in an emotionally needy way, rather than romantic.) I think it's important to try to work out what you both want from the relationship and, how much they're willing to give. Being vulnerable and needy was great when those needs were being met but in a weird way, that sort of encouraged me to want more, which was a dodgy place to be because it got to a point where they couldn't fulfil those needs. Their proritize switched to their partner and later, their family. Before then though, I worked out I needed to let go. I think in many ways, I'm better off isolating. I eventually managed to work out how to stabalize myself after a whole bunch of introspection.

I don't think I have BPD by the way but, I am prone to limerence and I do feel an intense need, even in friendships.

As for people who aren't good for you. I guess you need to maybe identify what kind of person they are. Do they seem to have common traits? Exploitation, manipulation? Maybe you need to look for the red flags from the outset. I'm not great at judging people either. Since keeping most at an arms length though, it's become less impactful if things flop. Not the best way to live though.
 
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byebyeblondie

byebyeblondie

Member
Jun 24, 2023
64
I usually just make sure to have such a comedic amount of blackmail material on people that they have no choice but to not fuck with me lmao. Exeptions are only made for a few very rare people (whomst are hard to get blackmail worthy stuff on aniways)
I'm glad you've found something that works for you. I would feel too guilty to use this method but I wish I could 😅
I'm not sure you can ever be sure. People I've known for years have still suprised me- usually in a bad way. Even family members. I came to the horrible conclusion years back that you could only truly rely on yourself. If people are supportive then great- enjoy it in the moment. Just don't be lulled into relying on it always.

I find that now, I pull myself back. So- I might perhaps arrange to do something say, (although, that hasn't happened in years!) but, I'll remind myself not to set my heart on it. It will be nice if it happens but, it won't surprise me if it doesn't. That goes for work too. So many projects don't get off the ground.

I also had to recognise in myself that I was wanting too much from a friend (in an emotionally needy way, rather than romantic.) I think it's important to try to work out what you both want from the relationship and, how much they're willing to give. Being vulnerable and needy was great when those needs were being met but in a weird way, that sort of encouraged me to want more, which was a dodgy place to be because it got to a point where they couldn't fulfil those needs. Their proritize switched to their partner and later, their family. Before then though, I worked out I needed to let go. I think in many ways, I'm better off isolating. I eventually managed to work out how to stabalize myself after a whole bunch of introspection.

I don't think I have BPD by the way but, I am prone to limerence and I do feel an intense need, even in friendships.

As for people who aren't good for you. I guess you need to maybe identify what kind of person they are. Do they seem to have common traits? Exploitation, manipulation? Maybe you need to look for the red flags from the outset. I'm not great at judging people either. Since keeping most at an arms length though, it's become less impactful if things flop. Not the best way to live though.

I have often wondered if you can only trust yourself but I'm so erratic with my emotions that I don't even know if I can trust myself or my mind.

I like your outlook to 'enjoy it in the moment' and 'if it happens it happens' .. I feel like that's a good way to prevent getting hurt.

I can relate to wanting too much from people, I seek validation and constant reassurance that someone likes me or is happy with me. It's never enough to satisfy my mind though.

I'm sorry that you also feel the intense need. It's a really tricky feeling to handle.

They do have common traits. Abusive/ manipulative/ controlling. I seem to miss all the red flags or even possibly seek them out because it's familiar 🤷🏼‍♀️.
 
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Dejected 55

Visionary
May 7, 2025
2,644
You don't... and that's actually the point.

I feel like "trust" is a word and a concept that most people use wrong.

Consider...

IF I know you and know you will not hurt me... then I don't have to trust you. I KNOW you are safe and will never hurt me. It's just fact.

You choose to trust people you don't know well... or people you don't know how they will respond in a certain situation. You think you know their character enough that you decide to trust they will not hurt you. That's trust.

Thus... trust cannot be earned. Trust can only be given. I have to give trust to a stranger or to a known person in a new situation. I have to give that trust and hope it is well placed. Once I trust you enough times and you come through for me all of those times... then I no longer have to trust you. I just KNOW you are there for me.

Does that make sense?

Of course people we know and people we choose to trust can let us down... being let down by someone we know feels more like a betrayal because we thought we knew them. Being let down by someone we chose to trust hurts too, but not like betrayal more like we doubt our judgement of others and wonder why we trusted someone like that.
 
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Celerity

Celerity

Visionary
Jan 24, 2021
2,851
I wish I knew. People are so fickle. During periods of my life when I am doing well, I tend to relax my cynicism and let people in again only to be disappointed. I'm wondering when I will finally accept what I have known to be true since I was a child: people are selfish, dishonest, and cruel.
 
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wham311

Enlightened
Mar 1, 2025
1,201
You literally cannot.


If you tell a significant other something,rest assured they'll tell others. Especially when you're broken up.

Friends, family, social media
 
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FoxSauce

Emotionally unstable like an IKEA table
Aug 23, 2024
1,280
For at first I try not to tell you much about so you can't use it later. I analyze every intention. Cuz if you sus not gonna happen

Ill try to be on my highest guard. Ofc that hasn't blown in my face cuz sometimes Im super naive but yeah.
 
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Pluto

Cat Extremist
Dec 27, 2020
6,771
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avoid11

Member
Aug 6, 2025
5
The only way to trust someone is by his actions speaking over time... The problem with this is that you cant trust anybody you just met, so you have to do a leap of faith.

I have done a ton of these and continue doing them... Its very hurtful but I have no choice... Living alone is not an option, I literally would rather be dead
 
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byebyeblondie

Member
Jun 24, 2023
64
You don't... and that's actually the point.

I feel like "trust" is a word and a concept that most people use wrong.

Consider...

IF I know you and know you will not hurt me... then I don't have to trust you. I KNOW you are safe and will never hurt me. It's just fact.

You choose to trust people you don't know well... or people you don't know how they will respond in a certain situation. You think you know their character enough that you decide to trust they will not hurt you. That's trust.

Thus... trust cannot be earned. Trust can only be given. I have to give trust to a stranger or to a known person in a new situation. I have to give that trust and hope it is well placed. Once I trust you enough times and you come through for me all of those times... then I no longer have to trust you. I just KNOW you are there for me.

Does that make sense?

Of course people we know and people we choose to trust can let us down... being let down by someone we know feels more like a betrayal because we thought we knew them. Being let down by someone we chose to trust hurts too, but not like betrayal more like we doubt our judgement of others and wonder why we trusted someone like that.
I had never looked at it from this point of view before. This is food for thought! Thank you :).
You literally cannot.


If you tell a significant other something,rest assured they'll tell others. Especially when you're broken up.

Friends, family, social media
This I can relate to. Such a betrayal. I'm sorry you've experience this as well. People can be so horrible.
The only way to trust someone is by his actions speaking over time... The problem with this is that you cant trust anybody you just met, so you have to do a leap of faith.

I have done a ton of these and continue doing them... Its very hurtful but I have no choice... Living alone is not an option, I literally would rather be dead

I don't want to get hurt anymore. I think I would rather be dead than feel the way I feel. I hope your next leap of faith is the right one 💕
 
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derpyderpins

:( precisely as ugly as Sidney Sweeney :(
Sep 19, 2023
2,228
I overtrust, for sure. I give the benefit of the doubt too much. I don't really regret it, though, even when I've been burned.

I think the fact that you can never be 100% certain in the sanctity of the trust is part of the thrill.
 
byebyeblondie

byebyeblondie

Member
Jun 24, 2023
64
For at first I try not to tell you much about so you can't use it later. I analyze every intention. Cuz if you sus not gonna happen

Ill try to be on my highest guard. Ofc that hasn't blown in my face cuz sometimes Im super naive but yeah.
I think is another problem I have, I over share and I don't know why. I always regret it and feel like a fool after.
I overtrust, for sure. I give the benefit of the doubt too much. I don't really regret it, though, even when I've been burned.

I think the fact that you can never be 100% certain in the sanctity of the trust is part of the thrill.
See I wish I didn't regret it. I do though, I always feel like a fool afterwards.

The not knowing scares me so much
 
Rynalia

Rynalia

くたばりぞこない
Apr 22, 2025
305
I suffer from the exact opposite, ahaha.

I don't trust people, not even myself. I usually assume the worst of people and that everything is a carefully fabricated lie that could span a lifetime.

In reality, I know that's not the case at all. There are genuine articles out there... But convincing myself of that is a futile effort.

It's pretty bad being on the opposite side of the spectrum too, honestly. Wanting to get close to people but being too wary of them to ever get to a point where I feel comfortable.

I've known some people for nearly two decades and I still can't trust them even when they have a track record of being genuine for the entire time.

So rather than trust, I just set my boundaries and that's it. Anything outside of the line is whatever, I'll let it slide and just go with it. Anything on the line is subject to scrutiny. Anything on my side of the line is NG and I'll promptly cut away and leave.

Is it healthy? No, not really. It's the best I can do for now though. It's the closest I can get to trusting even though it's not even trusting at all.
 
cemeteryismyhome

cemeteryismyhome

Paragon
Mar 15, 2025
971
I've learned to not trust anyone. That sounds cliche and "oh but you need to try". No. Been there done that. I don't think it works that way. That doesn't mean I hate people or act obviously distrustful. I don't even trust myself. People are simply not trustworthy. I think it's actually easier to go through life not expecting trust.
 
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UtopianSoliloquies

Act 3 Scene 1
Jan 21, 2023
89
IF I know you and know you will not hurt me... then I don't have to trust you. I KNOW you are safe and will never hurt me. It's just fact.

You choose to trust people you don't know well... or people you don't know how they will respond in a certain situation. You think you know their character enough that you decide to trust they will not hurt you. That's trust.

See I wish I didn't regret it. I do though, I always feel like a fool afterwards.

The not knowing scares me so much

I think Dejected really hit the nail on the head here. Trust is inherently probabilistic and you can always be let down or betrayed. Ultimately, we need other people for us to live happy lives. I know that if you're here, that's probably extremely far away right now, but no step in that direction can be achieved alone. Of all the diverse reasons people on SaSu want to CTB, I have never once seen anyone say "ugh I can't stand being seen and accepted for who I am! I'd rather be dead than have people who support me in the ways that I need" before, though frequently the lack of exactly that brings people here. I think trust is about balancing your hope for connection and your capacity to withstand betrayal. You fear that you attract bad people and wonder how you could trust others, and yet you also deeply want for someone to love you for who you are. For someone to love you, they have to know you first, and that means there will be a length of time where you slowly go from not knowing each other to knowing each other. That takes trust, and sometimes you will be hurt.

We don't always have it in us to trust people all of the time, and the cost and benefit really aren't fair considering that trusting someone and being hurt makes it harder to try again. Trust comes in different degrees. You don't have to trust people a lot, and you don't have to trust people now. My advice is only that you don't shoot yourself in the foot when you do feel that you have the capacity to trust someone a little bit by recalling every single time you've been burnt in the past in your head to stop yourself from trying now.
 
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Manfrotto99

Arcanist
Oct 10, 2023
459
Id rather trust an animal than a person. Even knowing them for years makes no difference at all. You have someones back and you think they have yours, then when your at your weakest point they hit hard right where it hurts. Always when your drowing, they have to push you down further so you sink. Then again I've been backstabbed by everyone I've been close to, including my family. I've only really known narcissists.
 
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Scythe

Lost in a delusion
Sep 5, 2022
769
You can't really, humans change, maybe they were trustworthy once, maybe they really wouldn't have hurted you if they didn't change. But humans never stay the same, you can't keep up with their changes. And I stopped caring a long time ago, people leave, that's life. I understand it's hard to stop caring fully, but it'll be worth it if you can make yourself numb.

I agree with others above, better trusting animals, they will stay by your side unless you cause them massive harm. Even then, some are innocent enough to still want to stay with you. Hell, I feel like I'm the one being an ass to them a lot, but I guess that's the thing with death, you always wish you could've been a little nicer to the dead, spent more time with them, and whatever.
 
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TBONTB

Enlightened
May 31, 2025
1,114
Time. It takes time. People will always reveal themselves overtime. You have to give it time and understand them and they will give it away eventually if they aren't genuine.
Yes.
 
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SchizoPolyGymnast

Paragon
May 28, 2024
930
Have you ever heard the (misquoted) saying, "Methinks the lady doth protest too much?"

One good indicator that someone is trying to conceal something nefarious is when they say something about themselves over and over again. Someone I used to know used to say she was "brutally honest" and "can't lie" constantly. Well, it turns out that was very far from the case. Another example is someone that claims that they have empathy over and over again...and then proceed to do something cruel.

The thing is, if something is true of you, you don't have to constantly advertise it. It will be self evident.

The flip side is when someone is constantly accusing others of something...lying, cheating, being lazy, etc. When this becomes a pattern it's almost always projection. Again, if something is true about someone, it will be apparent. It's not anyone else's job to give you an Amazon review of every person you come across.
 
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r.m.216

Student
Aug 11, 2025
168
You really can't trust anyone. A lot of your enemies start off as friends.

Difficult to navigate a world knowing that any information you give can end up really fucjing with you down the line
 
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Dejected 55

Visionary
May 7, 2025
2,644
I mean, to some degree you have to trust people to survive. Do you buy groceries or food not completely 100% prepared by yourself from scratch? You're trusting the people who prepared and transported it to you. You trust that your house will not cave in on you. You trust the air is not poison. You trust the water is not poison. We trust all the time to some degree.
 
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sheeplit

Member
Mar 8, 2023
47
I'm gonna attempt to articulate my position on this. But know that whatever I say here is ultimately watered down for brevity.

Know your values inside and out. When I say this, I mean know your set and hierarchy of values. Which values will precede the other in a particular situation. Most people look at the world with the lens of morality, right and wrong, good and bad. I personally throw all of that out the window. We're just a bunch of people with a particular set and hierarchy of values.

When someone says to us that they care, we might immediately assume that their 'care' is exactly the same as ours. This is almost always false in the particulars. When this gets tested, the difference will eventually show itself. Then, we feel neglected, betrayed, or whatever else. When in reality, what we did was miscommunicated our values. The expectation of sameness leads us to much suffering, the stage is often set by a false sense of righteousness, understanding, or expectation. There is no right and wrong. There is only what we value and how these values mingle with another's.

This can take time of course. It's taken me years to get a good framework of my own values. I can say I value this or that, but the only time I really know how accurate that is is when it is tested. I later realized how little I care about morality, and value communication more than most things. I can look past peoples' harshest mistakes if only they can have a real, genuine conversation with me. I don't imagine many would share this value with me, but it has given me a much deeper understanding of myself and how I affect and am affected by the world around me. I learned why certain people didn't work well with me because it was tested in that particular situation. As a consequence, I've developed my own tools specified to discern a particular set of values in others. It's not perfect, and I find myself still very much alone. But it has given me a sense of ease. I'm not in the dark wondering about things. I know what I'm looking for and how hard it might be to find it.

The upside of understanding your values inside and out is that you naturally equip yourself with tools to discern others' values, even if they themselves are incapable of understanding it. Most conflict arises from a misperception, misinterpretation, or misunderstanding, rather than some form of malice. Most people aren't actually 'bad' people (but that's a difficult discussion to have).

Find people with whom you have a high degree of overlap with your highest values. With that comes trust. They may, on occasion, approach things in a way that you do not agree with. But if you can discern what value their actions stem from, and if it aligns with yours, then you can work through it together. Read people primarily from their values rather than their actions, and try to understand what went wrong when those contradict.
 
Vlad Tepes

Vlad Tepes

Experienced
Jun 24, 2025
265
I dont, because I have been abused and betrayed by all the people in my life.
 

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