Help How do you form a pact safely?

[LostGirl]

I posted in the partners mega thread looking for a suitable partner but I find it a very difficult exercise. On the one hand, you don't know the true intentions of the potential partner. On the other, they are likely to have the same suspicion about you. There are also many unforeseen complications even if both parties are acting in goodwill. Given suicide is an extremely private act, can we really entrust our last moments to someone we never met IRL ? I would really love to have a partner to feel that I am not alone in my final moments but am I being naive that I can find such a person on the internet? Is suicide really a lonely path that we have to grit our teeth and just go through with it? How do people form successful pacts?

 

[OkTotti]

i think it's really rare nowadays, with people backing out at the last minute and people who have evil intentions. I can only imagine how traumatizing it would be to travel to another country to meet a partner, to only have that person back out at the last minute and not show up. That would just be an awful feeling know that you're all alone in another country and spent all that money. And that is just a scenario of someone backing out.... what if you met a real psycho as a partner? I think it's a process that you have to do, like background checks, and a lot of conversations by Skype or over phone. It must be harder for a young woman like you as men will try an prey on your vulnerability.....

I know you want to CTB before 2019, but to find a trusting partner before that would be very very difficult. You must have a proper vetting process...

 

[LostGirl]

i think it's really rare nowadays, with people back out at the last minute and people who have evil intentions. I can only imagine how traumatizing it would be to travel to another country to meet a partner, to only have that person back out at the last minute and not show up. That would just be an awful feeling know that you're all alone in another country and spent all that money. And is just a scenario of someone backing out.... what if you met a real psycho as a partner? I think it's a process that you have to do, like background checks, and a lot of conversations by Skype or over phone. It must be harder for a young woman like you as men will try an prey on your vulnerability.....

I know you want to CTB before 2019, but to find a trusting partner before that would be very very difficult. You must have a proper vetting process...

Thanks for that. You are spot on. I just need to wake up and get the shxt done on my own.

 

[Jiva]

Everyone has a different view. My idea is we (me and my suicide partner) will hang at same time. It suffices, one from us will start it for both (who will have a courage, he/she can overthrow our support). Thereafter we sure die. But it can be acceptable for me only. And honestly, i don´t want travel far.

 

[Crest33]

I would definitely do it alone. If only one survives for example you could get in trouble with the law. And I should definitely avoid traveling great distances. To much risk involved if u ask me.

 

[Sinbad]

I posted in the partners mega thread looking for a suitable partner but I find it a very difficult exercise.

How do people form successful pacts?

I saw your post in the partner tread. Your problem is that you are in Asia (Japan I presume). Most members here are from Europe and the US.
You said you are willing to travel but how far?
If I may give you an advise, stay on SS and start to get a feel for members. Who's liking every post, who's obnoxious, who is the fake, etc
So ones you get an offer you know to a certain extent who you are dealing with.

I have already more than one partner to CTB and they speak Spanish. So in order to make a successful pact, you have to provide and give. Giving and taking. So in your case what do you bring to the table? Being female? lol I am no fool. Also, you are still new here. Maybe I speak for others when we say I trust you now more than we did when we first saw one of your posts. Again, spent some time here mingle with other and then repost an attractive partner thread. Be patient.

Good luck.

 

[Xerxes]

Get used to doing it by yourself by training your mind so that it's 100% your choice, your decision, and that no outside influence is going to affect that choice. If your partner backs out, then you won't be deterred by it.

 

[bigj75]

Too much risk if something goes wrong. Partners are a no go.

 

[Smilla]

I would only feel comfortable if I knew the person for at least three months and spoke daily and intimately about our lives and reasons for ctb.

 

[Goldenwolf]

I posted in the partners mega thread looking for a suitable partner but I find it a very difficult exercise. On the one hand, you don't know the true intentions of the potential partner. On the other, they are likely to have the same suspicion about you. There are also many unforeseen complications even if both parties are acting in goodwill. Given suicide is an extremely private act, can we really entrust our last moments to someone we never met IRL ? I would really love to have a partner to feel that I am not alone in my final moments but am I being naive that I can find such a person on the internet? Is suicide really a lonely path that we have to grit our teeth and just go through with it? How do people form successful pacts?

How could I gain your trust?

 

[Made4TV]

So in your case what do you bring to the table? Being female? lol I am no fool.

What in the world does this mean?

 

[Chinaski]

I posted in the partners mega thread looking for a suitable partner but I find it a very difficult exercise. On the one hand, you don't know the true intentions of the potential partner. On the other, they are likely to have the same suspicion about you. There are also many unforeseen complications even if both parties are acting in goodwill. Given suicide is an extremely private act, can we really entrust our last moments to someone we never met IRL ? I would really love to have a partner to feel that I am not alone in my final moments but am I being naive that I can find such a person on the internet? Is suicide really a lonely path that we have to grit our teeth and just go through with it? How do people form successful pacts?

You'll never find a partner you can fully trust in my opinion, certainly not on the internet. Obviously the decision is yours and each to their own but in no way would l advertise my own vulnerability and desperation, which an ad for a suicide partner essentially does, and not expect it to attract a sizeable number of dangers as applicants, and I'm an ugly old man.

 

[TAW122]

I think everyone here has good answers and sadly, there isn't a surefire way for one to get a legitimate partner (they do exist, but are very, very rare. You'd almost have a better chance of winning the lottery than to find a truly legitimate partner to make a pact with). Backgrounds checks, lots of screening and vetting, as well as checking thoroughly over and over will help, but it isn't never 100% guaranteed.

Furthermore, the chance of you getting in trouble with the law or getting into a LE (law enforcement) sting is pretty high, meaning not only will you have legal troubles, you could also get hospitalized/locked up in a psych ward if you went through. (i.e. There was a story of someone who went to meet with a partner and he got arrested at the airport/location).

Finally, since suicide is such an individualized and personal choice, I'm going with the saying of 'suicide is a lonely, narrow road, that only the individual can take.' (I forgot where I heard this from, maybe from r/SS or somewhere on the Internet.)

 

[LostGirl]

How could I gain your trust?

I think the question is reciprocal. Like how can I gain your trust? This illustrates that any pact invariably begins with both parties having great doubts over the other, which is a shame but it's also the nature of the beast.

 

[LostGirl]

What in the world does this mean?

I don't understand that either. So being a female means I bring something to the table? Like what ? I would think that the most important attributes in a partner would be to bring understanding, reassurance, empathy and peace. It's also imperative that the parties are ad idem and resolute in what they wish to achieve.

 

[bigj75]

What in the world does this mean?

I think the question is reciprocal. Like how can I gain your trust? This illustrates that any pact invariably begins with both parties having great doubts over the other, which is a shame but it's also the nature of the beast.

talking on the phone
pics
Work verification
Criminal background

i think that would be enough.

 

[rabid_squirrel]

I don't intend to log in on this site again before my final ctb.But seeing your post,I feel I have to.
If not for the mod and kind users here,I'd have fallen into a trap of a sexual predator,I might be tortured and raped somewhere in a dark room in South America.This's from recent experience.
I'm not saying it's not entirely impossible to find a partner,but the risk is too high,you never know who they really are.They can disguise.
Those above have provided some very good and solid advice.
My advice,if you really want to find a partner,find one local,get to know her/him in public,spend time with her/him,the long distance partnership is too dangerous and too unpredictable.But the choice is yours.
Take care,girl

 

[LostGirl]

talking on the phone
pics
Work verification
Criminal background

i think that would be enough.

But would you feel safe giving out such info to a stranger? You could easily be doxxed.

 

[Toenditall]

got my partner meeting up with her on sunday to talk properly to make sure we are on the same page with everything im strangly looking forward to it finaly get to meet someone who agrees with how im feeling and wont try to stop me or talk me out of anything

 

[Sinbad]

But would you feel safe giving out such info to a stranger? You could easily be doxxed.

If you take the list step by step then it's fine. The conversation will lead to pictures and ones you feel comfortable you share more private information.

 

[LostGirl]

I don't intend to log in on this site again before my final ctb.But seeing your post,I feel I have to.
If not for the mod and kind users here,I'd have fallen into a trap of a sexual predator,I might be tortured and raped somewhere in a dark room in South America.This's from recent experience.
I'm not saying it's not entirely impossible to find a partner,but the risk is too high,you never know who they really are.They can disguise.
Those above have provided some very good and solid advice.
My advice,if you really want to find a partner,find one local,get to know her/him in public,spend time with her/him,the long distance partnership is too dangerous and too unpredictable.But the choice is yours.
Take care,girl

Thanks for the warning, it is very much appreciated. I am close to giving up on the partner thing altogether. But may I ask how you managed to find out that he was a sexual predator? Does the forum have some kind of screening for pacts?

 

[LostGirl]

got my partner meeting up with her on sunday to talk properly to make sure we are on the same page with everything im strangly looking forward to it finaly get to meet someone who agrees with how im feeling and wont try to stop me or talk me out of anything

All the best, I hope it works out for both of you.

 

[Toenditall]

All the best, I hope it works out for both of you.

thank you i hope it goes well to got 2 backup plans just incase

 

[bigj75]

But would you feel safe giving out such info to a stranger? You could easily be doxxed.

True but stuff needs to be exchanged to verify each other are serious.

 

[LostGirl]

True but stuff needs to be exchanged to verify each other are serious.

No doubt this sort of info must be exchanged but on the other hand, it is also the exchange of this kind of info which can lead one down a path of no return( the shxtty path and not the peaceful one which we all long for).

 

[OkTotti]

I don't intend to log in on this site again before my final ctb.But seeing your post,I feel I have to.
If not for the mod and kind users here,I'd have fallen into a trap of a sexual predator,I might be tortured and raped somewhere in a dark room in South America.This's from recent experience.
I'm not saying it's not entirely impossible to find a partner,but the risk is too high,you never know who they really are.They can disguise.
Those above have provided some very good and solid advice.
My advice,if you really want to find a partner,find one local,get to know her/him in public,spend time with her/him,the long distance partnership is too dangerous and too unpredictable.But the choice is yours.
Take care,girl

This is the probably the most sensible advice, especially finding someone local which is really difficult since the OP is in Japan. If only the OP, joined a few weeks earlier. TokyoJoe would have been your ideal partner...

 

[OkTotti]

No doubt this sort of info must be exchanged but on the other hand, it is also the exchange of this kind of info which can lead one down a path of no return( the shxtty path and not the peaceful one which we all long for).

Since you want to CTB before 2019 or shortly afterwards, it's probably best to put your energy in going it alone... Finding an ideal partner is very rare... plus who know how anyone will act when the moment to CTB comes. Getting cold feet and backing out at the last minute , that would be awful for both people....

 

[bigj75]

No doubt this sort of info must be exchanged but on the other hand, it is also the exchange of this kind of info which can lead one down a path of no return( the shxtty path and not the peaceful one which we all long for).

that's true. i guess job verification can be left out. But regardless it's gotta take a leap of hope.

 

[Arak]

@LostGirl ,

The only reason why I'd accept a partner is what they bring to the table. As in, what do they have that would help me. Gun, cyanide etc.
I'd dread being dependent on a partner for long distance travel, even though Im male.

And yes, you don't really know. I'm a bit less vulnerable since I'm a man but you might attrackt a weirdo or someone who is mentally very unstable.

Hypothetically, someone sending me sodium azide (or other goodie) from the USA while I'd send him/her something from Europe might be fine. But that's close to asking for sources, so ...

 

[bigj75]

@LostGirl ,

The only reason why I'd accept a partner is what they bring to the table. As in, what do they have that would help me. Gun, cyanide etc.
I'd dread being dependent on a partner for long distance travel, even though Im male.

And yes, you don't really know. I'm a bit less vulnerable since I'm a man but you might attrackt a weirdo or someone who is mentally very unstable.

Hypothetically, someone sending me sodium azide (or other goodie) from the USA while I'd send him/her something from Europe might be fine. But that's close to asking for sources, so ...

Some posters consider sex with partner first before ctb'ing when its a girl. Lol

So if they are wiling to do that then they are probably serious.