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Curiousoutlook

Curiousoutlook

Born Alone, Die Alone.
May 9, 2021
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A few months ago when I was going to ctb, and one of my friends knows about it, he said he would ctb too if he finds out I ctb. How do you feel about this kind of situation? I was fine for a little after that, but here I am again. The last month, I have just been planning and gathering the stuff I need to ctb (thanks SS for better methods) and never bother to hint anything or make anything suspicious. Now I guess I'm just mentally preparing myself when I will go ahead. SI is what causing me delaying this last 2 weeks.
They always say things will get better yada yada, but sometime there are situations where you know it won't get better.
It feels like you're being held hostage.
 
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JustAnumber

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Its a common manipulation tactic that can do more harm then good. Its normally because people lack the nessercery communication skills or knowledge to talk about the required subject.
A few months ago when I was going to ctb, and one of my friends knows about it, he said he would ctb too if he finds out I ctb. How do you feel about this kind of situation? I was fine for a little after that, but here I am again. The last month, I have just been planning and gathering the stuff I need to ctb (thanks SS for better methods) and never bother to hint anything or make anything suspicious. Now I guess I'm just mentally preparing myself when I will go ahead. SI is what causing me delaying this last 2 weeks.
They always say things will get better yada yada, but sometime there are situations where you know it won't get better.
It feels like you're being held hostage.
Do you feel beter when people talk to you honestly about ctb or when people try to hide the subject or guilt trip you?
 
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sm20

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May 5, 2021
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A few months ago when I was going to ctb, and one of my friends knows about it, he said he would ctb too if he finds out I ctb. How do you feel about this kind of situation? I was fine for a little after that, but here I am again. The last month, I have just been planning and gathering the stuff I need to ctb (thanks SS for better methods) and never bother to hint anything or make anything suspicious. Now I guess I'm just mentally preparing myself when I will go ahead. SI is what causing me delaying this last 2 weeks.
They always say things will get better yada yada, but sometime there are situations where you know it won't get better.
It feels like you're being held hostage.
I usually care about how other people feel in other situations, even if they're assholes I don't like people having bad things happen to them. However with suicide I know it would affect my family but I don't feel bad about it. I just understand that what I'm going through is much more than what they'll have to deal with, and with time some of their pain will fade. Considering the multiple years of pain I've had to deal with and will go through in the future if I don't kms I think I have the right to do it anyways. Even if my life was complete misery all the time (which I don't think it's that bad) they'd want me staying alive for another 60 years of it. They can deal with 5 years of depression before they mostly go back to normal.
 
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WornOutLife

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Mar 22, 2020
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This used to worry me a lot because my ex also used to threaten me with ctb if I ctb!!!

I guess the only choice is to ignore them and realize if they really mean it.

If they're already really suicidal, they might ctb because of us or not. In the case of my ex, she suffered from depression but wasn't suicidal so, I never believed her.

Sorry you're going through this.

Hugs,

Matt
 
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loopylou

Learn to fly
Jan 11, 2021
884
Politely... it fucks me off
im in pain and they want me to continue living like that for their own needs?
 
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Curiousoutlook

Curiousoutlook

Born Alone, Die Alone.
May 9, 2021
84
Its a common manipulation tactic that can do more harm then good. Its normally because people lack the nessercery communication skills or knowledge to talk about the required subject.

Do you feel beter when people talk to you honestly about ctb or when people try to hide the subject or guilt trip you?
Prob neither. I wouldn't expect them to say anything since this subject is always considered negative.
Politely... it fucks me off
im in pain and they want me to continue living like that for their own needs?
Rightt
I usually care about how other people feel in other situations, even if they're assholes I don't like people having bad things happen to them. However with suicide I know it would affect my family but I don't feel bad about it. I just understand that what I'm going through is much more than what they'll have to deal with, and with time some of their pain will fade. Considering the multiple years of pain I've had to deal with and will go through in the future if I don't kms I think I have the right to do it anyways. Even if my life was complete misery all the time (which I don't think it's that bad) they'd want me staying alive for another 60 years of it. They can deal with 5 years of depression before they mostly go back to normal.
I agree
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
42,394
It's why I would never tell anyone how I feel. I mean others would be sad - as suicide is a pain cycle, to end our own pain, it passes it on to others. I wouldn't stay alive and suffer for the sake of someone else, it is selfish for them to expect me to do so. It is our lives so we should be able to decide when to end them.
 
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Largeletters

Alone
Jan 21, 2020
640
Fucking hate it. People who guilt-trip can fuck right off.
 
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Celerity

shape without form, shade without colour
Jan 24, 2021
2,732
That was 1) a shitty thing to do and 2) most likely an empty threat. However, I have heard of suicides inspiring others. It's really up to you. I don't think I owe my life to anyone aside from perhaps my family.
 
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PrincessInWhite

PrincessInWhite

I just want to sell out my funeral
Feb 21, 2019
641
I honestly get it, ag least for my situation. I have family and loved ones that care for me and help me so I can see how others would see my choice as selfish, I'm sure it is, in a way. But it's also selfish of me to endlessly rely on the people around me financially and emotionally, so I'm choosing the option that relieves them of that burden and hopefully they can find some peace knowing I finally found peace. I wish it were different, I wish *I* were different. But I have to make do with the reality. I've tried so many treatment options for decades now. It's time.
 
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Symbiote

Global Mod
Oct 12, 2020
3,099
People who guilt trip can fuck off.
Fuck Off Jerry Ferrara GIF by Power
 
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Weary Soul

Weary Soul

Soon I will be free
Nov 13, 2019
1,155
People can try to guilt trip me in any way - it is a reflection of who they are, not me, and is typically manipulation in an attempt to try and control someone.

I dunno - on one of my bad days, I might think to myself, "Ok, let's go togther." And then watch them run away.

Ultimately, if it is a real threat (and it is a threat), it is not because of what you are doing, it is solely a choice they made for themselves. They own it, you do not.

<3
 
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DaughterOfAthena

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May 30, 2021
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Every time someone has ever tried to use guilt on me or calls me a coward it just makes me want to die even more. It's idiotic how so many people handle this issue. If they truly want us to live shaming us is basically a form of encouragement to do exactly what they don't want.
 
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Seiba

Seiba

Mage
Jun 13, 2021
505
I got an angry guilt trip for when I attempted the first time years ago. Aside from that I've known better than to ever share publicly about things related to suicide or to fail again.
 
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Wisdom3_1-9

he/him/his
Jul 19, 2020
1,939
I got the guilt trip treatment this week too from someone whom I really love and respect. It wasn't as bad as "I'll kill myself too," but he did talk about how he's already had too many suicides around him, that he wouldn't let me take the cowardly way out, and that he'd never forgive me if I went through with it.

Even those who love us and know us the most can't *really* understand. And it's very easy for them to internalize it ("how does your suicide affect me or reflect on me") rather than try to empathize or understand.
 
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Seiba

Mage
Jun 13, 2021
505
I got the guilt trip treatment this week too from someone whom I really love and respect. It wasn't as bad as "I'll kill myself too," but he did talk about how he's already had too many suicides around him, that he wouldn't let me take the cowardly way out, and that he'd never forgive me if I went through with it.

Even those who loves us and know us the most can't *really* understand. And it's very easy for them to internalize it ("how does your suicide affect me or reflect on me") rather than try to empathize or understand.
It's always disappointing when they reveal they've thought about something for five minutes and start with basic platitudes like cowardice. They always put in the least effort in possible and when you die start the "If I only I could have done something" charade.
 
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BlankUser

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Apr 24, 2021
501
I don't let others manipulate me like that.
 
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return2dreamland

return2dreamland

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May 16, 2021
58
either i
1. shut down, or
2. get angry.
guilt tripping is garbage.
 
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