leftdreaming

leftdreaming

I should’ve been a house cat
Apr 28, 2023
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As the title says.

I can't seem to get it right and the messages I've read in the shallow water blackout thread haven't helped me. Anyone got advice?
 
Charlie-Bravo

Charlie-Bravo

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Hypervantilation is just a fancy word for deep breaths. Deep Breath in and out. Relatively fast. Took me ~7min until I passed out. But do not underestimate it, pretty stressful. And make sure you sit or lie, don't stand up or you break your legs.
 
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treetop.grazer

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Jan 11, 2022
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I've never managed it either, it's really frustrating as SWB would be my preferred method as I could easily do it when out paddleboarding or wild swimming and wouldn't raise any suspicion 😔
 
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Charlie-Bravo

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One thing to add, after hypervantilating for a while, I holded my breath(with no air in my lung), after a couple seconds I became unconscious. This step was important because while hyperventilating you still breath in oxygen, but when holding your breath you deplete that oxygen and CO2 gets created, but not enough to get you that breath instinct.

Also after a couple of breaths I felt dizzy, so you should feel an effect when doing it right.
 
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S00359641

S00359641

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Mar 2, 2023
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Idk if this sounds stupid but would the old "breathing in and out of a paper bag" work?
 
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leftdreaming

leftdreaming

I should’ve been a house cat
Apr 28, 2023
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Idk if this sounds stupid but would the old "breathing in and out of a paper bag" work?
General consensus on here is no. Can't say I've tried, but I've managed to get better results since posting this. Makes you wonder where the bag thing came from.
 
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Charlie-Bravo

Charlie-Bravo

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Isn't the bag used to keep CO2 in circulation, so you precisely don't fall unconscious.

Webmd says following: "The traditional treatment is to breathe into a paper bag so you breathe back in some of the carbon dioxide. But today, doctors recommend taking deep breaths or covering your mouth and one of your nostrils to limit how much air gets in. If you have trouble calming down, ask someone to help you."
 
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MusicGuy

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We're just another statistic
May 28, 2023
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Hypervantilation is just a fancy word for deep breaths. Deep Breath in and out. Relatively fast. Took me ~7min until I passed out. But do not underestimate it, pretty stressful. And make sure you sit or lie, don't stand up or you break your legs.
For some it gives me uncomfortable tingling is that something relatively normal or am I doing something wrong?
 
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Charlie-Bravo

Charlie-Bravo

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Thats normal, same thing when I hyperventilated. Same tingeling/dizziness you get when you walk out of a shisha bar after an hour or 2, just more intense
 
MusicGuy

MusicGuy

We're just another statistic
May 28, 2023
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Thats normal, same thing when I hyperventilated. Same tingeling/dizziness you get when you walk out of a shisha bar after an hour or 2, just more intense
Any tip on how to increase effectiveness, cause I tried hyperventilating for 10 minutes straight and got no results except for the tingling
 
Charlie-Bravo

Charlie-Bravo

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May 30, 2023
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Small room, low oxygen level(If you're a smoker, maybe smoke before in room). Also deep and aggressive breaths, like you want to get as much air as possible really fast in and out of the lungs.
 
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INeedMethodForCTB

In need of a method without ANY substance painok
Mar 26, 2023
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One thing to add, after hypervantilating for a while, I holded my breath(with no air in my lung), after a couple seconds I became unconscious. This step was important because while hyperventilating you still breath in oxygen, but when holding your breath you deplete that oxygen and CO2 gets created, but not enough to get you that breath instinct.

Also after a couple of breaths I felt dizzy, so you should feel an effect when doing it right.
How long did it take for you to pass out i just held my breath and after 30 seconds i didn't even feel dizzy infact it felt like I never even hyperventilated and just held my breath on a normal day
 
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enough of this

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Jun 4, 2023
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As the title says.

I can't seem to get it right and the messages I've read in the shallow water blackout thread haven't helped me. Anyone got advice?
Is there some reason you would want to? If you're wanting to CTB, that won't do it.
 
Charlie-Bravo

Charlie-Bravo

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May 30, 2023
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How long did it take for you to pass out i just held my breath and after 30 seconds i didn't even feel dizzy infact it felt like I never even hyperventilated and just held my breath on a normal day
I hyperventilated for ~7min(deep breaths in and out) and hold my breath. First it did not do anything, but then I immediately hyperventilated again for a couple of minutes and then hold my breath again. Then after a short while(couple of seconds) I lost consciousness, fell(because I accidentally walked around while hyperventilating) and broke my leg. But I think I definetly passed out(even if just for a couple of seconds), because I litterally fell on my leg like a sack of potatoes, while standing in the middle of the room. But of course the adrenaline rush from my broken leg woke me back up.
 
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INeedMethodForCTB

In need of a method without ANY substance painok
Mar 26, 2023
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I hyperventilated for ~7min(deep breaths in and out) and hold my breath. First it did not do anything, but then I immediately hyperventilated again for a couple of minutes and then hold my breath again. Then after a short while(couple of seconds) I lost consciousness, fell(because I accidentally walked around while hyperventilating) and broke my leg. But I think I definetly passed out(even if just for a couple of seconds), because I litterally fell on my leg like a sack of potatoes, while standing in the middle of the room. But of course the adrenaline rush from my broken leg woke me back up.
Yea I read about your ctb attempt a few days ago
 
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HerculePoirot

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For how long am I likely to be unconscious? A matter of seconds? or minutes? I am an old man, ex-smoker (quit tobacco more than 2 years ago).
Never succeeded in hyperventilation so far.
 
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HerculePoirot

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Sep 25, 2022
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For how long am I likely to be unconscious? A matter of seconds? or minutes? I am an old man, ex-smoker (quit tobacco more than 2 years ago).
Never succeeded in hyperventilation so far.
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Charlie-Bravo

Charlie-Bravo

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May 30, 2023
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For how long am I likely to be unconscious? A matter of seconds? or minutes? I am an old man, ex-smoker (quit tobacco more than 2 years ago).
Never succeeded in hyperventilation so far.
Well the idea is that you'll be unconscious forever :). If your underwater you'll die. If you fall down and hit your head you could also die or stay unconscious for a couple of hours.
 
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HerculePoirot

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Sep 25, 2022
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Thanks, but my question was actually this: for how long am I going to be unconscious due to hyperventilation, not taking into account voluntary or accidental drowning or injuries?
 
Charlie-Bravo

Charlie-Bravo

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May 30, 2023
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From what I know and heard(I am not an expert), it depends on so many factors. But If you are on fresh air probably just a couple of seconds.

You fall unconscious because after hyperventilating you have low oxygen levels. But when you stop, due to being unconscious, you go back breathing normally again, so oxygen levels return to normal.

BUT, you could also die, because something in your body goes wrong or you fall and hit you head. It has a low probability but is possible. Keep it in mind when you practice
 

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