Venting How do I cope with being ugly and subhuman?

[BornToFail]

I am 5'7 and obese. I have a babyface according to many women.

 

[Unhirable]

Lose weight for starters. Pretty obvious first step.

If its too hard start using those new weight loss drugs where it assassinates your appetite.

Even if you pulled bitches (or men, whatever you're into) if you're obese you're always going to be depressed and always going to be at risk for other diseases that make you depressed.

 

[Hollowillow]

I am 5'7 and obese. I have a babyface according to many women.

Ban grain, sugars, msg... Eat veggies & fresh meat... You'll shit the poison out. Unless you take antidepressants, they fuck hormones and make everyone obese... Poison.

Or find an obese girl.

At this point, subhuman is better than those superficial nazi baby eaters

 

[BornToFail]

Ban grain, sugars, msg... Eat veggies & fresh meat... You'll shit the poison out. Unless you take antidepressants, they fuck hormones and make everyone obese... Poison.

Or find an obese girl.

At this point, subhuman is better than those superficial nazi baby eaters

Antidepressants made me gain 50 pounds. I really love all girls.

 

[that_guy2611]

I used to be obese then i lost all the weight - i'm still subhuman so do keep in mind that weight alone might not be the fix.
If you do find out how to cope then please share with me.

 

[makethepainstop]

Dudes you both are not subhumans, get a grip. I'm much older, so I know what I say is truth. How about being charming? I know a dude that has a face that that makes time stand still. (His face could stop a clock, even the electronic ones). But he is so damn charming, that everyone loves him. I can assure you both he does get laid. If your weight alone bothers you, bless you your not alone. You can reduce, if your persistent. Love too you both.

 

[[HNO]]

in advance sry for my broken english it's not my native language

compile a schedule/long term plan you're really planning to adhere to w/ set of tasks for improvement of each sphere of life which are important to u (focus on the body and the mind). try to elaborate it in some writing about why strategy you've stuck to is supposed to work. do an extended research before you compile your plan bc most things that 'experts' on the internet advise is bullshit (what i'm suggest is bullshit too), as example the firsts links that appear upon googling the depression treatment suggest to pass trough drugs therapy and so if being obese is your deep concern you shouldn't touch the meds especially SSRIs and antipsychotics because in the end they'll make you more fat than you were (look at side effects of risperidone for example with weight gain as the most common of side effects listed)

start first w/ diet fixing: cut off simple carbs(esp pastry) , sugars and oxidized(roasted) food, processed ("enriched" by questionable additives) food, some say the ketogenic diet is the best. base your diet on antioxidant and alkaline types of the food. rule of thumb is simpler the food the better. eat fish (only those that have high levels of omega-3 fats and lacking of mercury or heavy metals, google) at least once per week bc omega-3 is essential for normal brain function (which helps handling anxiety, mood swings etc) or consume fish oil
then goes normalizing of the sleep (cut off coffee and screen time)
and in the end goes getting fit or rich () to compensate. im used to go on boxing at childhood and in my opinion training program it offers is best suitable for slim and functional body that the opposite sex may found appealable also it fixes matters like social insecurity and there's no need for elaborated training devices

kegel exercises for peenor enhance, premature ejaculation etc
cold showers, zink, nofap, noporn, consuming minimal daily vitamin requirements, screen time restriction, plenty of meat or animal products for testosterone boost
after you've accomplished this most problems lie in the sphere of mentality(approaching, handling of rejections n shit)

should work for 3-4/10 on decile 5'5 - 5'9 IMO at least for looksmatch(in theory)

read Meditations by Marcus Aurelius before tackling

 

[actual_fox]

You might have ugly face, and be fat but It does not make you subhuman.

Gain muscle and normies will be scared of you - that is a good cope Imo and good deterrent. As far as cope goes - you need to find something that is meaningful to you and do It. But If you don't have this kind of thing best is to sleep or play really engaging games. Or study hard If you in college.

Wtf do I know tho, I am prob as lost as you.

 

[Cathy Ames]

I am 5'7 and obese. I have a babyface according to many women.

Hey, can you please clarify or write more about what you mean by "cope"? Were you looking for weight loss suggestions? Were you looking for how to change every aspect of your life? Something else?

For me "cope" is more like a mental state or an attitude. I don't know. It might just be me, but it doesn't quite seem as though the answers to your question line up with the question that was asked.

 

[unfettered]

I pull bitches and I'm still suicidal. Trust me, getting laid doesn't solve your problems. If anything, it can make them significantly worse.

 

[Littlewittlelight]

I pull bitches and I'm still suicidal. Trust me, getting laid doesn't solve your problems. If anything, it can make them significantly worse.

You won't know until you get one and that's like what humans want to experience rest you will soon realise that life itself is nothing except for pulling bitches or female whatever you want to call them tbh your existence will not matter you gotta reproduce that pretty much sums human life rest is pastime unless you get some epithets on your grave like Shakespeare.

Edit:Don't know what to say but if I were the females who said it to you I would think before saying something like that to someone. Someone could say that when they are angry but like just tell a random person you just met or for no reason to be angry or something and mean it? Don't know if this existed 2 million years back when humans were primates and they cared more about busting nuts more or they even have brain to say these things to other humans? Either way I understand what you meant and the importance of something you don't have but others have I wouldn't be able to experience what you are but I can feel and agree it's the truth and really hard but lord knows what's up with people that can make others feel so bad and same applies to male who can do this stuff. Sorry op the people are just ill it's not you that they are so obsessed with some things

 

[BornToFail]

I pull bitches and I'm still suicidal. Trust me, getting laid doesn't solve your problems. If anything, it can make them significantly worse.

Yeah, thank you and I'm sorry for your feelings. I know it won't make my problems better.

 

[unfettered]

Yeah, thank you and I'm sorry for your feelings. I know it won't make my problems better.

The truth is that nothing is ever solved in this world. Closure is like two empty jars to hold the shit storm that is this existence. None of it is solved, until the very end.

 

[BornToFail]

The truth is that nothing is ever solved in this world. Closure is like two empty jars to hold the shit storm that is this existence. None of it is solved, until the very end.

I couldn't have said it better, thank you.

 

[SexyIncél]

You got some good advice here! More thoughts beyond "pulling bitches/boytoys"... Personally, I think it's satisfying to love & be loved. Some random thoughts, ymmv:

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If you're inexperienced, hmmm... maybe consider practicing with sex workers? Get some confidence; experiment with how to be bodily with people. And it doesn't just have to mean sex! Shit, practice the art of conversation maybe, by talking with them in a spirit of curiosity. Learn some lessons

Keep in mind they're workers. If you think they don't actually like sex, then you might take that as a cue to stop & just talk. (Hopefully they like cuddling, which is practice for holding someone whilst talking.)

But I'd be really safe before doing that. I'd prefer places where it's legal & regulated. And friend told me about PrEP, against HIV. Also, maybe ask them if they'd be willing to have unprotected sex with you for more money. Then politely excuse yourself if they would — because presumably they've done it with others

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Falling in love & being loved can help. Useful to help others achieve their goals — reeeeealy helps if you have similar goals

Don't fuck up by hurting them. Don't. If you need hours of alone-time in the morning, to burn through whatever shit's within you, figure out how to get it. And do it

And your alone-time is for you alone, for whatever transgressions you need to get out of your system

And apologize immediately even if you accidentally or jokingly hurt them. You don't get many mistakes. Each sufficient mistake adds a pebble in their shoe. Pebbles irritate

 

[whatevs]

Try at least to not be fat. It's a start.

 

[BornToFail]

You got some good advice here! More thoughts beyond "pulling bitches/boytoys"... Personally, I think it's satisfying to love & be loved. Some random thoughts, ymmv:

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If you're inexperienced, hmmm... maybe consider practicing with sex workers? Get some confidence; experiment with how to be bodily with people. And it doesn't just have to mean sex! Shit, practice the art of conversation maybe, by talking with them in a spirit of curiosity. Learn some lessons

Keep in mind they're workers. If you think they don't actually like sex, then you might take that as a cue to stop & just talk. (Hopefully they like cuddling, which is practice for holding someone whilst talking.)

But I'd be really safe before doing that. I'd prefer places where it's legal & regulated. And friend told me about PrEP, against HIV. Also, maybe ask them if they'd be willing to have unprotected sex with you for more money. Then politely excuse yourself if they would — because presumably they've done it with others

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Falling in love & being loved can help. Useful to help others achieve their goals — reeeeealy helps if you have similar goals

Don't fuck up by hurting them. Don't. If you need hours of alone-time in the morning, to burn through whatever shit's within you, figure out how to get it. And do it

And your alone-time is for you alone, for whatever transgressions you need to get out of your system

And apologize immediately even if you accidentally or jokingly hurt them. You don't get many mistakes. Each sufficient mistake adds a pebble in their shoe. Pebbles irritate

Oh, I don't want sex.

 

[Unhirable]

The truth is that nothing is ever solved in this world. Closure is like two empty jars to hold the shit storm that is this existence. None of it is solved, until the very end.

Not true at all.

 

[SexyIncél]

Oh, I don't want sex.

Whoa, awesome! Simplifies everything

Then maybe sex workers can still be useful—and they'd like it more than their usual banging. Maybe a get nice communicative one... and do roleplay?

 

[brokensea]

Sorry to see on here your advice is about getting a sex worker and referring to women as bitches. Or just losing weight.

A lot of times we have an internal view of ourselves that isn't always lined up with reality.

If you feel your antidepressants are not having a good effect is it possible to talk to your doctor about trying something else?

It's very hard to get your self esteem and self worth up when you put yourself down for your appearance or let things other people say to you bring you down. I know people of all sizes and many of them are married and loved and have partners if you are looking for that. Your size doesn't define you. Society and their narcissistic views don't define you. You define you. You have to on some level know anyone who doesn't see you as you are they aren't worth worrying about and their opinions don't matter. You have to give yourself permission to be ok with you and everything about you. That you are a beautiful, kind, special person and that's all that matters. If anyone thinks otherwise, they don't matter. The right person will love you for you and you can allow yourself to feel ok and accept yourself. You have to work on it and give it time. Appreciate and value yourself. Focus on the good things about you that make you who you are. Then naturally you will become whatever you want to be. I can say with certainty I have so many friends while imperfect they don't judge or care about anyones appearance. You can have a life outside of this toxic world with people who genuinely care about you. The rest is just shallow noise. Give yourself the right to be proud of who you are.

 

[ikadasui]

I was kind of fat and slimmed down to 150. Sadly, I'm just naturally ugly and have terrible skin so I've still been called ugly regardless of 58pounds of weightloss. I don't have an answer it's similiar a life ruinier imo

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Even if you pulled bitches (or men, whatever you're into) if you're obese you're always going to be depressed and always going to be at risk for other diseases that make you depressed.

Sorry, but I do not believe this to be true. Too much of a generalization. There are plenty of overweight, or obese, people that are not depressed and never will be. Most likely, they learned to accept themselves as they are. However, I can't argue that being overweight puts you at risk for many diseases, but so does eating a bunch of junk food, smoking, and drinking.

 

[Unhirable]

Sorry, but I do not believe this to be true. Too much of a generalization. There are plenty of overweight, or obese, people that are not depressed and never will be. Most likely, they learned to accept themselves as they are. However, I can't argue that being overweight puts you at risk for many diseases, but so does eating a bunch of junk food, smoking, and drinking.

Overweight? Yes
Obese. No

Maybe they can distract themselves with YouTube and drugs but real happiness is out of the question. Seriously.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Overweight? Yes
Obese. No

Maybe they can distract themselves with YouTube and drugs but real happiness is out of the question. Seriously.

That's nonsensical. It is simply erroneous to paint all obese people as being depressed and often suicidal. I see plenty of obese people out and about with their spouses or significant others, oftentimes with their obese children in tow. I don't presume to know what they're feeling, but it is evident, to me anyway, from observation that they don't outwardly show signs of depression, which, I understand, many people are able to keep internalized, anyway. It is much more the non-monetary richness of someone's life that determines whether one becomes depressed. If one has a fulfilling life, which would be uniquely relative to a person's wants, needs and desires, then that person is more apt to be happy, regardless of their physical characteristics, including whether they are obese. All obese people are depressed? Come on. You might as well say all gay people are depressed, or all black people are depressed, or all Native-Americans are depressed, or all short men are depressed, or all flat-chested women are depressed.

 

[Unhirable]

That's nonsensical. It is simply erroneous to paint all obese people as being depressed and often suicidal. I see plenty of obese people out and about with their spouses or significant others, oftentimes with their obese children in tow. I don't presume to know what they're feeling, but it is evident, to me anyway, from observation that they don't outwardly show signs of depression, which, I understand, many people are able to keep internalized, anyway. It is much more the non-monetary richness of someone's life that determines whether one becomes depressed. If one has a fulfilling life, which would be uniquely relative to a person's wants, needs and desires, then that person is more apt to be happy, regardless of their physical characteristics, including whether they are obese. All obese people are depressed? Come on. You might as well say all gay people are depressed, or all black people are depressed, or all Native-Americans are depressed, or all short men are depressed, or all flat-chested women are depressed.

You may be right actually.

 

[freedompass]

That's nonsensical. It is simply erroneous to paint all obese people as being depressed and often suicidal. I see plenty of obese people out and about with their spouses or significant others, oftentimes with their obese children in tow. I don't presume to know what they're feeling, but it is evident, to me anyway, from observation that they don't outwardly show signs of depression, which, I understand, many people are able to keep internalized, anyway. It is much more the non-monetary richness of someone's life that determines whether one becomes depressed. If one has a fulfilling life, which would be uniquely relative to a person's wants, needs and desires, then that person is more apt to be happy, regardless of their physical characteristics, including whether they are obese. All obese people are depressed? Come on. You might as well say all gay people are depressed, or all black people are depressed, or all Native-Americans are depressed, or all short men are depressed, or all flat-chested women are depressed.

I agree. I'm clinically obese, not morbidly so. I believe the definition of obesity is 25% above what is considered 'normal'. Loads of people are in that category these days. It's not 'my 600lb life' or something.

Sometimes depressed, mostly not. The depression is nothing to do with my weight. It doesn't stop me doing anything I want to do.

 

[Hollowillow]

Antidepressants made me gain 50 pounds. I really love all girls.

Yeah... That poison make people obese. It's extremely hard to quit too because it fucks your brain... Into addiction? I use vitamin c, b, magnesium, d for depression. If I cry in hysterical suicidal oanic I calm diwn almost instantly with 5g of c and 250mg of magnesium. Almost magic. Can take more but it works. Took 12 magnesium... I stopped being suicidal for 4 days... I was depleted like mad because taking more than 2 used to make my muscle too relaxed and I thought it'd stop my heart.

I know you love all girls but an obese one is more likely to have compassion & accept your obesity than an anorexic disney princess with a fat phobia (i was raised that way, I struggle with my own fat)

So... Different way to help mood than a fattening drug... & The right girl.

Dudes you both are not subhumans, get a grip. I'm much older, so I know what I say is truth. How about being charming? I know a dude that has a face that that makes time stand still. (His face could stop a clock, even the electronic ones). But he is so damn charming, that everyone loves him. I can assure you both he does get laid. If your weight alone bothers you, bless you your not alone. You can reduce, if your persistent. Love too you both.

Wow life gave him lemons and he added sugar to the lemonaide

For starter stop thinking obese people are subhuman and stop calling a loser. It's mean to fat girls, and even if someone lived you you'd need more self confidence to believe it.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

You may be right actually.

It's not a matter of being right or wrong. I don't want to be right just to be right. That's not my intent. It's just the "all" thing. If you would have said that some obese people are depressed, or even many are depressed, I wouldn't have even argued with you. I don't think there's an all that can cover any of us and our varied reasons for wanting to exit.

 

[Hollowillow]

Gain muscle and normies will be scared of you

Hahaha! Fur fur, you're so funny!

Yeah! Japanese sumos ate obese but respectable athletes. But they don't eat junk, just more rice or stuff. With veggies & fish & broth. Happy fat full of nutrients, not starved with fat full of poison.

Hey, can you please clarify or write more about what you mean by "cope"? Were you looking for weight loss suggestions? Were you looking for how to change every aspect of your life? Something else?

For me "cope" is more like a mental state or an attitude. I don't know. It might just be me, but it doesn't quite seem as though the answers to your question line up with the question that was asked.

True.

Accept your fat, it protects you. the poison in it from junk food & toxic drugs fucking you up is evil... But your fat is protecting you from it. Blame the external reason why, not your body.

"In the United States, 36.5% of adults have obesity. Another 32.5% of American adults are overweight. In all, more than two-thirds of adults in the United States are overweight or have obesity."

69% are fat or fatter. You're not some sort of unique mutant. You're the norm. Tv lied to you.

You got some good advice here! More thoughts beyond "pulling bitches/boytoys"... Personally, I think it's satisfying to love & be loved. Some random thoughts, ymmv:

---

If you're inexperienced, hmmm... maybe consider practicing with sex workers? Get some confidence; experiment with how to be bodily with people. And it doesn't just have to mean sex! Shit, practice the art of conversation maybe, by talking with them in a spirit of curiosity. Learn some lessons

Keep in mind they're workers. If you think they don't actually like sex, then you might take that as a cue to stop & just talk. (Hopefully they like cuddling, which is practice for holding someone whilst talking.)

But I'd be really safe before doing that. I'd prefer places where it's legal & regulated. And friend told me about PrEP, against HIV. Also, maybe ask them if they'd be willing to have unprotected sex with you for more money. Then politely excuse yourself if they would — because presumably they've done it with others

---

Falling in love & being loved can help. Useful to help others achieve their goals — reeeeealy helps if you have similar goals

Don't fuck up by hurting them. Don't. If you need hours of alone-time in the morning, to burn through whatever shit's within you, figure out how to get it. And do it

And your alone-time is for you alone, for whatever transgressions you need to get out of your system

And apologize immediately even if you accidentally or jokingly hurt them. You don't get many mistakes. Each sufficient mistake adds a pebble in their shoe. Pebbles irritate

Hm... I frown at the idea of a crack whore with aids... But that's still way better than antidepressants. Take 2 in the morning

I was kind of fat and slimmed down to 150. Sadly, I'm just naturally ugly and have terrible skin so I've still been called ugly regardless of 58pounds of weightloss. I don't have an answer it's similiar a life ruinier imo

Date each other? My face melted from acid fumes, nonstop for 6 months, whole body, brain, in agony. I wake up wanting to scream & cry. I wish I was just ugly. I'm in pain & brain damaged too. Scared to take a bath & pee because the chemical is there & poisons me more. Everything I own is toxic... Contaminated... All my fault... No where to escape, not even the psych ward anymore...

Get a funny hat

 

[BornToFail]

Bad choice to post my face here?