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I've already made my decision, I'm just taking my time to prepare and get everything I need, and also to plan a good time to get it over with. I can't stop thinking about how it's going to hurt my family and friends, though. This should be my decision to make and I'm not planning on changing my mind, but I want to at least try and make this as easy as possible for the people who love me. Anybody happen to have any ideas on this?

I know it's impossible to go through with this without traumatising people, and I feel really guilty about it, but I think this should still be my own choice to make at the end of the day, right?
 
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I don't think you can ever soften the blow per say, but there are some things you can do is help your family, friends and loved ones hopefully have closure in your transition. Here are a few suggestions that I have: You can make seperate audio recordings to everyone and include whatever is important for you to tell them. Maybe tell them how much you appreciated them and make it clear there was nothing they could do to change your decision as this is what YOU wanted. I think people always look inward and blame themselves for not knowing the signs or how to help.

You can write letters or notes to people, BUT understand those people will not get those letters until the police release them and if there is anything that see that could be traumatizing to someone they may not release them.

Make a video. Explain to your loved ones why if you want. Explain how you cane to this decision. I think suicide is a transition that people simply can't understand, but you can try. I would suggest if you make a video, look happy as they will replay it several times. Maybe reminiscence about that great times you had with everyone.

These are all the things I've done before, only thing is, my attempts always fail.
Best wishes to you, hopefully something I said can be helpful🥰
 
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You mostly can't without risking your ability to do it.

If you give them any clues, they can do a welfare check and they can take you into involuntary commitment if the police or mental health people think you are lying.

If you want to help them understand, you can include in your note why you're doing it, why you wouldn't be open to persuasion, and that it isn't their fault. If you have tried to get help and it didn't work, you can include that.

If you really want to be nice to them, however, just don't do it. Find a way to live. Especially if any of them are in a vulnerable position, like they are going through something difficult. Or make sure to not do it at a time that will be especially disruptive.

There was a post on here once about suicide notes and what would make things easier or harder for people, but if they really care about you, and probably do, they'll be devastated no matter what. Your pain will decrease, but theirs will increase. There's really not an ethical way to end your life if you ethical calculations are purely based on not increasing pain for others. Part of it is probably a question of how much you can bare: some people can't bare life anymore, and suicide, while a choice on some level, is also not on another level.

But it's going to be awful for them. So if you can find a way to stay alive for them, do it. Have you tried: -therapy, medications, jogging every day, only eating raw food or stopping all carbs, giving up drugs or alcohol, starting drugs or alcohol, going to support groups to give up the drugs/alcohol you started, going to any support groups, changing your life to do things you like more? Is there a reason you are in pain that you can't change?

I'm sorry this probably isn't the answer you want. I am pro-choice and support whatever you decide. <3
I don't think you can ever soften the blow per say, but there are some things you can do is help your family, friends and loved ones hopefully have closure in your transition. Here are a few suggestions that I have: You can make seperate audio recordings to everyone and include whatever is important for you to tell them. Maybe tell them how much you appreciated them and make it clear there was nothing they could do to change your decision as this is what YOU wanted. I think people always look inward and blame themselves for not knowing the signs or how to help.

You can write letters or notes to people, BUT understand those people will not get those letters until the police release them and if there is anything that see that could be traumatizing to someone they may not release them.

Make a video. Explain to your loved ones why if you want. Explain how you cane to this decision. I think suicide is a transition that people simply can't understand, but you can try. I would suggest if you make a video, look happy as they will replay it several times. Maybe reminiscence about that great times you had with everyone.

These are all the things I've done before, only thing is, my attempts always fail.
Best wishes to you, hopefully something I said can be helpful🥰
oh this was a much better response than what I wrote. this is better! lol. separate audio recordings is a kind idea. it would be hard to listen to for them. i lost someone close to me and i wish i had a kind audio recording or something saying something nice to me, it would be hard and devastating, but i didn't know how they felt about me at the time they died. personally, i am filled with so much regret and thoughts of "if only i had done more, if only i had done this differently, if only..." and if she had somehow told me that her death is something that probably would have happened no matter what I did, I might have felt better, but perhaps not. Her death is a big part of the reason I joined SaSu. I joined shortly after she died. I was suicidal before she died, but her death increased by intent to die and seriousness about suicide by a very large amount.
 
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Letting a note clarifying they aren't the reason for you to do it neither that they should blame themselves or believe they could have stopped you, point out what each of them meant for you, if you can make sure your method does not disfigures your face so they can say goodbye properly. do not tell them or say goodbye directly but make sure the last interaction, was a really good one
 
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You mostly can't without risking your ability to do it.

If you give them any clues, they can do a welfare check and they can take you into involuntary commitment if the police or mental health people think you are lying.

If you want to help them understand, you can include in your note why you're doing it, why you wouldn't be open to persuasion, and that it isn't their fault. If you have tried to get help and it didn't work, you can include that.

If you really want to be nice to them, however, just don't do it. Find a way to live. Especially if any of them are in a vulnerable position, like they are going through something difficult. Or make sure to not do it at a time that will be especially disruptive.

There was a post on here once about suicide notes and what would make things easier or harder for people, but if they really care about you, and probably do, they'll be devastated no matter what. Your pain will decrease, but theirs will increase. There's really not an ethical way to end your life if you ethical calculations are purely based on not increasing pain for others. Part of it is probably a question of how much you can bare: some people can't bare life anymore, and suicide, while a choice on some level, is also not on another level.

But it's going to be awful for them. So if you can find a way to stay alive for them, do it. Have you tried: -therapy, medications, jogging every day, only eating raw food or stopping all carbs, giving up drugs or alcohol, starting drugs or alcohol, going to support groups to give up the drugs/alcohol you started, going to any support groups, changing your life to do things you like more? Is there a reason you are in pain that you can't change?

I'm sorry this probably isn't the answer you want. I am pro-choice and support whatever you decide. <3

oh this was a much better response than what I wrote. this is better! lol. separate audio recordings is a kind idea. it would be hard to listen to for them. i lost someone close to me and i wish i had a kind audio recording or something saying something nice to me, it would be hard and devastating, but i didn't know how they felt about me at the time they died. personally, i am filled with so much regret and thoughts of "if only i had done more, if only i had done this differently, if only..." and if she had somehow told me that her death is something that probably would have happened no matter what I did, I might have felt better, but perhaps not. Her death is a big part of the reason I joined SaSu. I joined shortly after she died. I was suicidal before she died, but her death increased by intent to die and seriousness about suicide by a very large amount.
thanks for the reply. i think theres some things i might be able to do then, something i can leave behind at least. what im mostly worried about is a specific person.

i wont go into details, both because of privacy reasons and because i simply dont want to think about it too much, but the nail in the coffin for me was losing a friendship that was extremely important to me. this friend basically just abandoned me completely but i know for certain that my actions would hurt them immensely. i love them more than anything and i would never want to hurt them, but i really dont have a choice. as much as i can try and tell them that its not their responsibility, the fact my rough situation with them is a big factor to everything going downhill for me is something people are already aware of. its unavoidable.
i can't go on anymore, but i don't want to hurt someone i love so much to this extreme degree. if there's anything i can do to help them move on relatively quickly i'd do it.
 
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I've already made my decision, I'm just taking my time to prepare and get everything I need, and also to plan a good time to get it over with. I can't stop thinking about how it's going to hurt my family and friends, though. This should be my decision to make and I'm not planning on changing my mind, but I want to at least try and make this as easy as possible for the people who love me. Anybody happen to have any ideas on this?

I know it's impossible to go through with this without traumatising people, and I feel really guilty about it, but I think this should still be my own choice to make at the end of the day, right?
Giving closure in the form of either recordings or notes can help, but other than that you can't really soften the emotional blow that someone will feel.
 
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thanks for the reply. i think theres some things i might be able to do then, something i can leave behind at least. what im mostly worried about is a specific person.

i wont go into details, both because of privacy reasons and because i simply dont want to think about it too much, but the nail in the coffin for me was losing a friendship that was extremely important to me. this friend basically just abandoned me completely but i know for certain that my actions would hurt them immensely. i love them more than anything and i would never want to hurt them, but i really dont have a choice. as much as i can try and tell them that its not their responsibility, the fact my rough situation with them is a big factor to everything going downhill for me is something people are already aware of. its unavoidable.
i can't go on anymore, but i don't want to hurt someone i love so much to this extreme degree. if there's anything i can do to help them move on relatively quickly i'd do it.
have you talked with them and do they know you feel abandoned?
 
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Would you like to discuss what made you join here? Why do you feel suicide is your only option? Only if you feel comfortable sharing of course. I think sometimes people don't understand how much pain people are in and they selfishly want you to stay. In the end, there's no beautiful and easy was to go. Overall, you have to make a decision that's best for you!
 
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have you talked with them and do they know you feel abandoned?
yeah, its a very complicated situation and id prefer not to share any more about it. i no longer have any contact with them now
Would you like to discuss what made you join here? Why do you feel suicide is your only option? Only if you feel comfortable sharing of course. I think sometimes people don't understand how much pain people are in and they selfishly want you to stay. In the end, there's no beautiful and easy was to go. Overall, you have to make a decision that's best for you!
simply came to the conclusion that life really isn't worth the effort, im sick of trying so hard and never ending up happy. im just suffering without getting anything in return for it, has been that way all my life.
the only winning move is not to play
 
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yeah, its a very complicated situation and id prefer not to share any more about it. i no longer have any contact with them now

simply came to the conclusion that life really isn't worth the effort, im sick of trying so hard and never ending up happy. im just suffering without getting anything in return for it, has been that way all my life.
the only winning move is not to play
okay, sorry you feel this way and are here. <3 i understand how you feel. i feel like i've worked really hard in life and i'm really just exploited at this point and the things i am good at i can't really do and I really am not getting much happiness while enduring a lot of suffering, especially due to financially pressures

i have sort of described a similar thing, wanting to "opt out"

and part of it, for me, includes "opting out" of the mental health industry, which for me has felt financially exploitative, not protective of my privacy, and having very particular rules that you must accept if you are getting help from their industry, and I am not comfortable with their different rules, with how they treat privacy. So I opt out, and will probably out out of life too.

i also feel like i've suffered a long time. so i understand.

i still hope you change your mind and end up happy somehow.
 
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You can write letters or notes to people, BUT understand those people will not get those letters until the police release them and if there is anything that see that could be traumatizing to someone they may not release them.
There are easy ways around that. If you leave a note at the scene then yes the authorities will take it. If instead you post or email it to the intended recipients then they'll see it before the police do.

I plan on using email: you can schedule things to go out after you expect to be dead, and cancel the message if you survive or abort your attempt.
 
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There are easy ways around that. If you leave a note at the scene then yes the authorities will take it. If instead you post or email it to the intended recipients then they'll see it before the police do.

I plan on using email: you can schedule things to go out after you expect to be dead, and cancel the message if you survive or abort your attempt.
I heard you can do things like that before but knowing me I'd make a mistake and send it that day lol. But that definitely is a great option ♥️
 
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