edu0z

edu0z

carried away by a moonlight shadow
Aug 25, 2021
552
I mean the transition... the hormones, the social change... have those things helped you with the dysphoria? What is it like to meet guys as a trans woman?

Last year I was trying to start transitioning and I was very excited, my friends supported me and for a moment I even stopped seeing myself as a disgusting weirdo. But I entered a loop where I saw everything as useless and that no matter what I did or how hard I tried, I was never going to be a woman on the outside... you are what you are... I would give anything to simply be a normal cis woman.

So I backed out with the transition and I've tried to be a man and accept myself since then but that's what I've been doing for 22 years and it hasn't worked for me. I don't want to tell others that I'm going to transition and then back out again. But I can't take it anymore. I have nothing to lose anyway, I don't want my life, this life that I have built I don't feel like it is mine, I simply prefer to die than continue like this.

My question is simple. Is it worth transitioning? Has it helped you? Do you feel better now than before?

I know I'm going to continue to feel like a weak, disgusting, weird, pathetic piece of shit no matter what I do. But the strategy I have been using all my life has shown more than enough to not be useful so I have to change. I'm sorry mom and dad, I've tried to be a man, I've tried. But I'm not happy, I feel like I'm fooling everyone around me and that the person they see is just a fake. The only time I felt like others saw me as I truly am was when I told the truth last year and I was trying to transition but that only lasted until my cowardice struck again and I went back to hiding. If later, people don't like who I am, then that's fine, but I'd rather live with that than have to calculate every little step I take, every word, every gesture. It is exhausting.
 
  • Hugs
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: N33dT0D13, Lonelyhotcake, Sylveon and 5 others
jinx <3

jinx <3

💮she/her🏳️‍⚧️
Apr 12, 2023
85
As a trans woman, it has been worth transitioning for me. I used to hate myself a shit ton, now just a little bit and sometimes not at all. I've been on hormones for a little less than a year and I genuinely think they've saved my life. Socially, my trans friend groups are stronger and tighter-knit than any friend groups I've had in the past. In general, my life has drastically improved, but there are some downsides: transphobia exists. Anyway, it's helped me, it may help you. I hope you find joy in whatever you choose to do <3.
 
  • Like
Reactions: N33dT0D13
Anonymoususer1234

Anonymoususer1234

Experienced
Apr 13, 2023
216
Not a woman so I can't speak to the trans female experience specifically (I'm trans non-binary).

My feelings about this are complicated.

I've socially transitioned in most areas of my life and I've been on a very low dose of hormones for a couple months.

I've never felt disgusting for being trans but I definitely have felt like I'm pathetic or delusional. Those insecurities never really go away. I think they're just a part of being trans. You learn to live with it, though.

People, in general, take me much less seriously after coming out to them. A lot of the time I get the feeling that people are just humoring me when they say they respect my identity. I can never be sure who is safe to be around and that can be destabilizing. I often feel like I'm walking on eggshells.

I experience a lot of bodily dysphoria around one of my organs in particular, it doesn't feel like a part of my body at all. I try very hard to cover it up/avoid looking at/touching it as much as possible.

At the moment I'm scheduled for a surgery in the summer to get rid of said organ. Knowing that the surgery will eventually happen has kept me going. I keep fantasizing about my results. I know this surgery will be huge in terms of alleviating dysphoria and I look forward to it every day that I'm alive.

I'm not entirely sure how I feel about the way hormones have affected me. I'm mostly indifferent about it. They haven't helped my dysphoria tons but there are some changes that I have enjoyed/would like to see more of.

Changing my pronouns has done next to nothing for dysphoria. People never respect my pronouns. When they do use my preferred pronouns I often feel like they're straining to do it/ they're just itching to misgender me.

That said, changing my name has helped TREMENDOUSLY in terms of dysphoria. (I find that people have an easier time respecting my name then they do my pronouns. For some reason. Plus there's a lot of people who don't know my deadname.) I feel like I finally have a name I can be proud of. It's a name that really feels like mine, you know? That has done tons for my peace of mind.

So, in short, transition has helped with some parts of my dysphoria and not others.

I'm not sure how helpful this is since, like I said, I'm not a woman. It might also be worth mentioning that my dysphoria is pretty mild (except for when it comes to that one organ). But either way I wish you the best, whatever you choose to do next.
 
  • Love
  • Like
Reactions: N33dT0D13, nembutal, LoiteringClouds and 2 others
10000DaysTooMany

10000DaysTooMany

Member
Apr 14, 2023
68
I started transitioning to hopefully help stop the self hatred I feel for myself. It did help for a time but it's faded since then. I still hate myself. I still think the bad isn't with the good.
 
  • Hugs
  • Like
Reactions: N33dT0D13 and edu0z
Nymph

Nymph

he/him
Jul 15, 2020
2,565
Transitioning has helped me even though I know I won't ever be able to be cis. But I can't transition the way I want to because my country doesn't allow you to do certain things without mandatory sterilization (castration). It's one of the things that actually make me wanna ctb because I know I won't ever be able to leave this hellhole and with how conservative people are here, it won't ever change. I also have other issues like mental health issues that make it hard but if I could at least "fully" change my name (now I can only have a "neutral" name) and sex marker it would help tremendously
 
  • Like
  • Aww..
Reactions: N33dT0D13, jasonbrrze3 and edu0z
fragmentary

fragmentary

illusions to illusions
Aug 19, 2023
12
can't give proper input because i haven't transitioned, but i can relate to OP. regarding feeling fake and my actions as useless. i've known i was trans since i was a kid but never had the courage to go all the way and transition. it's bleak since i've missed out on various typical social hallmarks because of my own fears. i wish i could be happier with hrt but i don't know for sure how that would work.
 
  • Hugs
  • Like
Reactions: N33dT0D13 and edu0z
_Broken_alice

_Broken_alice

She/Her
Nov 19, 2023
226
I mean the transition... the hormones, the social change... have those things helped you with the dysphoria? What is it like to meet guys as a trans woman?

Last year I was trying to start transitioning and I was very excited, my friends supported me and for a moment I even stopped seeing myself as a disgusting weirdo. But I entered a loop where I saw everything as useless and that no matter what I did or how hard I tried, I was never going to be a woman on the outside... you are what you are... I would give anything to simply be a normal cis woman.

So I backed out with the transition and I've tried to be a man and accept myself since then but that's what I've been doing for 22 years and it hasn't worked for me. I don't want to tell others that I'm going to transition and then back out again. But I can't take it anymore. I have nothing to lose anyway, I don't want my life, this life that I have built I don't feel like it is mine, I simply prefer to die than continue like this.

My question is simple. Is it worth transitioning? Has it helped you? Do you feel better now than before?

I know I'm going to continue to feel like a weak, disgusting, weird, pathetic piece of shit no matter what I do. But the strategy I have been using all my life has shown more than enough to not be useful so I have to change. I'm sorry mom and dad, I've tried to be a man, I've tried. But I'm not happy, I feel like I'm fooling everyone around me and that the person they see is just a fake. The only time I felt like others saw me as I truly am was when I told the truth last year and I was trying to transition but that only lasted until my cowardice struck again and I went back to hiding. If later, people don't like who I am, then that's fine, but I'd rather live with that than have to calculate every little step I take, every word, every gesture. It is exhausting.
Going to break this up to match your questions and concerns as best we can.
.
*1: Transition has helped immensely. Honestly would have been gone a year ago if we had been unable to start transitioning. (At 28, so quite late compared to optimal.) Can't comment on meeting guys as we are sapphic and have past trauma that will mean never exploring that side at all. A friend of ours has gone on a few dates with guys although never clicked with any of them just like cis dating often ends. There are certainly guys that will treat a trans-woman as the woman they are.
.
*2&3: Transition takes time. Hormones take a long time to have a large impact. The difference they can make in time though is quite shocking. We look almost nothing like we did just a year ago. We went from pretending to be someone we weren't for 28 years, to getting correctly gendered even in a red state (not in the SE US). Even younglings seem to get it right most of the time now. We've even caught people trying and massively failing to be sneaky about checking us out grocery shopping...
What we did, was to hormonally transition, and socially transition to people that knew us really well, but continued to present as the lie in public for safety. (Was in a really bad part of the deep south at the time, so being read as trans was very much not something we wanted.) Once we moved further north, we still presented as the lie UNTIL it was very clear we were confusing people and we were getting correctly gendered most of the time without even presenting authentically. Now, we present correctly all the time. Also, if you start ASAP, the hormones will have more of an impact than starting later like we did. Hips fuse around 24 and T related things also do a lot in that time-frame. You'd be amazed the difference hormones can make given time. Neither us, nor our friend look anything like we did before.
Aside from a bitch at the DMV thinking she figured out some daming secret and proudly+smugly saying "SIR" after looking at our paperwork after she fucked everything up once,(which we just ignored her like she never said it. Even her coworker gave her a look that screamed "what the fuck bitch.") we haven't been misgendered in about 4 months now even though we feel we don't pass very well. We even got asked at the ER if we had ever had ovarian cysts and had to explain to the nurse that unfortunately we don't have the required organs to have those.. They were confused at first until they went back out of the room and talked to other attending staff who knew we were trans-fem and what that entailed.
.
*4: Absolutely, yes. We only wish we had known what was possible way sooner... We never had access to info and didn't even know about hormonal transition due to a shitty conservative upbringing.
Transitioning has absolutely helped. This may sound hypocritical being on this forum, but we feel a lot better than we did just over a year ago. We had hit the point of either transition or CTB so we chose to transition. We are on this forum because of other life circumstances although we are recovering lately. We would not be here without having transitioned. For the first time in our 28 years on earth, we feel like our life is really ours and we WANT to live.
.
*5: We tried to live as a lie too. It was miserable to put it lightly. We have known "boy" was not right for us since childhood, but weren't made aware of the effects transition could have until we hit our breaking point and after we spent a lifetime repressing. Also trauma the few times we tried to explore ourselves. We wasted so many years pretending to be what everyone expected us to be. Life should be lived for you, not for others. We lost nearly everyone in our life between transitioning and a sudden divorce this year. (part of the driving factor was our transition, although not all of it.) We found out which family members never really meant "We will support you in whichever path you choose.". Those people don't have the right to be a part of our life anymore and we disowned them with no chance of redemption. If we were sent back with what we know now, we would still choose to transition. Nothing will take that away from us. We have found new people to be a part of our life since, that not only accept, but love us as the woman we are. Living the lie was so exhausting.. Living authentically certainly has it's challenges, but at least they feel like they are worth facing. Living the lie, every day was a pointless struggle. Existing just to exist. Making it through one day, just to do it again the next. It was not living at all and we are still paying the costs of existing like that, not caring to live past 25...
.
*BONUS: We suggest that you transition hormonally and go from there. You seem certain in what you want, but hesitant in going for it. We felt better within the first few months of just hormonal transition. We were even happy for the first time every before our sudden divorce. It felt like the curtains had been lifted and we could experience life for the first time. Like we finally unlocked the correct control interfaces for this body. Social transition can happen as you feel comfortable doing so. Anyone that chooses not to support you on your journey, never really supported you before either. They likely just enjoyed the control they could exert over you. Parents tend to be the worse about this if not accepting and encouraging. It's better to know who is like that than not. Be prepared to lose people, but know they were likely not worth keeping around anyway as they only accepted you under false conditions you have no obligation to fulfill. Anyone that will not accept and cherish you as YOU are not worth the effort to try to get them to. In the end, you only get one life, and should not live it worrying about what others think of actions you wish to take to better yourself. If you feel like you are a woman, then you are. Some of us just had to take a different path to figure that out and live as such. The downsides are transphobic people, but for the most part, their opinions really don't matter. Just don't engage with them and distance yourself from them. To show them they hurt you, is to give them power over you. Deny them that, and their entire sick game falls apart. From experience, some of those transphobic people will have quite the shocking discovery later in their lives and very much regret being so awful... Most of them are internally confused and lashing out to make themselves feel better, or to fit in with a worthless crowd.
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: InversedShadow, N33dT0D13 and edu0z
beelzebul

beelzebul

(;´д`)ゞ
Oct 10, 2023
123
Not a transwoman, but a transman.

Transitioning has prolonged my life. If I hadn't transitioned, I wouldn't be here. I definitely feel more correct than pre-transition. I would definitely go for it if I were you.
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: InversedShadow, N33dT0D13 and edu0z
N33dT0D13

N33dT0D13

Xe/It
Apr 2, 2023
365
Non-binary trans woman, mostly only socially transitioned so far and mostly just online
talking to guys as a woman / fem-aligned person (they all know I'm trans) is... Both eye-openingly different and also eerily familiar (having always been at least fem enough to attract certain kinds of attention and disrespect), it's weird both how validating and how anxiety/loneliness inducing it can be, between them fetishizing your transness or trying to navigate your transness when it isn't something they're familiar with or even necessarily accepting of (having a friend drunkenly hit on me, find out I was trans then say he was cool cuddling dudes felt gross in particular). I've developed somewhat of an aversion to deeper interest in or from cis people who aren't bi or pan, most straight guys I've dealt with tend to fall HEAVILY into the fetishist or chaser demographic, I distinctly recall one who had only had prior experience with cis women (had recently been divorced) and seemed bored with me when we talked about anything other than sex (won't go into detail but me being more dominant in intimate scenarios certainly excited him) and old anime and manga he liked (which I enjoyed talking about but sometimes I wanna gush about my hyper fixations too or talk about anything else really and actually get a response beyond pure indifference, dammit 😤)

I experience a lot of imposter syndrome (IWNBAW, I can't be a trans woman AND a tomboy so clearly I'm just a delusional man, maybe I've convinced myself I'm trans when I'm not because it's more accepted now, etc.) but I honestly feel so, so, SO much happier and unburdened now than when I was trying to act as a guy in every facet of my life, having people know I'm trans and still treat me like a woman / not a man is nice. I really wanna get on hormones. I'm terrified of transphobia but am also admittedly lucky to live somewhere known for tolerant liberalism (even if much of it is performative) and am already openly a weirdo so hopefully not too much will change for the worse.
 
  • Love
Reactions: edu0z
edu0z

edu0z

carried away by a moonlight shadow
Aug 25, 2021
552
As a trans woman, it has been worth transitioning for me. I used to hate myself a shit ton, now just a little bit and sometimes not at all. I've been on hormones for a little less than a year and I genuinely think they've saved my life. Socially, my trans friend groups are stronger and tighter-knit than any friend groups I've had in the past. In general, my life has drastically improved, but there are some downsides: transphobia exists. Anyway, it's helped me, it may help you. I hope you find joy in whatever you choose to do <3.
Not a woman so I can't speak to the trans female experience specifically (I'm trans non-binary).

My feelings about this are complicated.

I've socially transitioned in most areas of my life and I've been on a very low dose of hormones for a couple months.

I've never felt disgusting for being trans but I definitely have felt like I'm pathetic or delusional. Those insecurities never really go away. I think they're just a part of being trans. You learn to live with it, though.

People, in general, take me much less seriously after coming out to them. A lot of the time I get the feeling that people are just humoring me when they say they respect my identity. I can never be sure who is safe to be around and that can be destabilizing. I often feel like I'm walking on eggshells.

I experience a lot of bodily dysphoria around one of my organs in particular, it doesn't feel like a part of my body at all. I try very hard to cover it up/avoid looking at/touching it as much as possible.

At the moment I'm scheduled for a surgery in the summer to get rid of said organ. Knowing that the surgery will eventually happen has kept me going. I keep fantasizing about my results. I know this surgery will be huge in terms of alleviating dysphoria and I look forward to it every day that I'm alive.

I'm not entirely sure how I feel about the way hormones have affected me. I'm mostly indifferent about it. They haven't helped my dysphoria tons but there are some changes that I have enjoyed/would like to see more of.

Changing my pronouns has done next to nothing for dysphoria. People never respect my pronouns. When they do use my preferred pronouns I often feel like they're straining to do it/ they're just itching to misgender me.

That said, changing my name has helped TREMENDOUSLY in terms of dysphoria. (I find that people have an easier time respecting my name then they do my pronouns. For some reason. Plus there's a lot of people who don't know my deadname.) I feel like I finally have a name I can be proud of. It's a name that really feels like mine, you know? That has done tons for my peace of mind.

So, in short, transition has helped with some parts of my dysphoria and not others.

I'm not sure how helpful this is since, like I said, I'm not a woman. It might also be worth mentioning that my dysphoria is pretty mild (except for when it comes to that one organ). But either way I wish you the best, whatever you choose to do next.
I started transitioning to hopefully help stop the self hatred I feel for myself. It did help for a time but it's faded since then. I still hate myself. I still think the bad isn't with the good.
Transitioning has helped me even though I know I won't ever be able to be cis. But I can't transition the way I want to because my country doesn't allow you to do certain things without mandatory sterilization (castration). It's one of the things that actually make me wanna ctb because I know I won't ever be able to leave this hellhole and with how conservative people are here, it won't ever change. I also have other issues like mental health issues that make it hard but if I could at least "fully" change my name (now I can only have a "neutral" name) and sex marker it would help tremendously
can't give proper input because i haven't transitioned, but i can relate to OP. regarding feeling fake and my actions as useless. i've known i was trans since i was a kid but never had the courage to go all the way and transition. it's bleak since i've missed out on various typical social hallmarks because of my own fears. i wish i could be happier with hrt but i don't know for sure how that would work.
Going to break this up to match your questions and concerns as best we can.
.
*1: Transition has helped immensely. Honestly would have been gone a year ago if we had been unable to start transitioning. (At 28, so quite late compared to optimal.) Can't comment on meeting guys as we are sapphic and have past trauma that will mean never exploring that side at all. A friend of ours has gone on a few dates with guys although never clicked with any of them just like cis dating often ends. There are certainly guys that will treat a trans-woman as the woman they are.
.
*2&3: Transition takes time. Hormones take a long time to have a large impact. The difference they can make in time though is quite shocking. We look almost nothing like we did just a year ago. We went from pretending to be someone we weren't for 28 years, to getting correctly gendered even in a red state (not in the SE US). Even younglings seem to get it right most of the time now. We've even caught people trying and massively failing to be sneaky about checking us out grocery shopping...
What we did, was to hormonally transition, and socially transition to people that knew us really well, but continued to present as the lie in public for safety. (Was in a really bad part of the deep south at the time, so being read as trans was very much not something we wanted.) Once we moved further north, we still presented as the lie UNTIL it was very clear we were confusing people and we were getting correctly gendered most of the time without even presenting authentically. Now, we present correctly all the time. Also, if you start ASAP, the hormones will have more of an impact than starting later like we did. Hips fuse around 24 and T related things also do a lot in that time-frame. You'd be amazed the difference hormones can make given time. Neither us, nor our friend look anything like we did before.
Aside from a bitch at the DMV thinking she figured out some daming secret and proudly+smugly saying "SIR" after looking at our paperwork after she fucked everything up once,(which we just ignored her like she never said it. Even her coworker gave her a look that screamed "what the fuck bitch.") we haven't been misgendered in about 4 months now even though we feel we don't pass very well. We even got asked at the ER if we had ever had ovarian cysts and had to explain to the nurse that unfortunately we don't have the required organs to have those.. They were confused at first until they went back out of the room and talked to other attending staff who knew we were trans-fem and what that entailed.
.
*4: Absolutely, yes. We only wish we had known what was possible way sooner... We never had access to info and didn't even know about hormonal transition due to a shitty conservative upbringing.
Transitioning has absolutely helped. This may sound hypocritical being on this forum, but we feel a lot better than we did just over a year ago. We had hit the point of either transition or CTB so we chose to transition. We are on this forum because of other life circumstances although we are recovering lately. We would not be here without having transitioned. For the first time in our 28 years on earth, we feel like our life is really ours and we WANT to live.
.
*5: We tried to live as a lie too. It was miserable to put it lightly. We have known "boy" was not right for us since childhood, but weren't made aware of the effects transition could have until we hit our breaking point and after we spent a lifetime repressing. Also trauma the few times we tried to explore ourselves. We wasted so many years pretending to be what everyone expected us to be. Life should be lived for you, not for others. We lost nearly everyone in our life between transitioning and a sudden divorce this year. (part of the driving factor was our transition, although not all of it.) We found out which family members never really meant "We will support you in whichever path you choose.". Those people don't have the right to be a part of our life anymore and we disowned them with no chance of redemption. If we were sent back with what we know now, we would still choose to transition. Nothing will take that away from us. We have found new people to be a part of our life since, that not only accept, but love us as the woman we are. Living the lie was so exhausting.. Living authentically certainly has it's challenges, but at least they feel like they are worth facing. Living the lie, every day was a pointless struggle. Existing just to exist. Making it through one day, just to do it again the next. It was not living at all and we are still paying the costs of existing like that, not caring to live past 25...
.
*BONUS: We suggest that you transition hormonally and go from there. You seem certain in what you want, but hesitant in going for it. We felt better within the first few months of just hormonal transition. We were even happy for the first time every before our sudden divorce. It felt like the curtains had been lifted and we could experience life for the first time. Like we finally unlocked the correct control interfaces for this body. Social transition can happen as you feel comfortable doing so. Anyone that chooses not to support you on your journey, never really supported you before either. They likely just enjoyed the control they could exert over you. Parents tend to be the worse about this if not accepting and encouraging. It's better to know who is like that than not. Be prepared to lose people, but know they were likely not worth keeping around anyway as they only accepted you under false conditions you have no obligation to fulfill. Anyone that will not accept and cherish you as YOU are not worth the effort to try to get them to. In the end, you only get one life, and should not live it worrying about what others think of actions you wish to take to better yourself. If you feel like you are a woman, then you are. Some of us just had to take a different path to figure that out and live as such. The downsides are transphobic people, but for the most part, their opinions really don't matter. Just don't engage with them and distance yourself from them. To show them they hurt you, is to give them power over you. Deny them that, and their entire sick game falls apart. From experience, some of those transphobic people will have quite the shocking discovery later in their lives and very much regret being so awful... Most of them are internally confused and lashing out to make themselves feel better, or to fit in with a worthless crowd.
Not a transwoman, but a transman.

Transitioning has prolonged my life. If I hadn't transitioned, I wouldn't be here. I definitely feel more correct than pre-transition. I would definitely go for it if I were you.
Non-binary trans woman, mostly only socially transitioned so far and mostly just online
talking to guys as a woman / fem-aligned person (they all know I'm trans) is... Both eye-openingly different and also eerily familiar (having always been at least fem enough to attract certain kinds of attention and disrespect), it's weird both how validating and how anxiety/loneliness inducing it can be, between them fetishizing your transness or trying to navigate your transness when it isn't something they're familiar with or even necessarily accepting of (having a friend drunkenly hit on me, find out I was trans then say he was cool cuddling dudes felt gross in particular). I've developed somewhat of an aversion to deeper interest in or from cis people who aren't bi or pan, most straight guys I've dealt with tend to fall HEAVILY into the fetishist or chaser demographic, I distinctly recall one who had only had prior experience with cis women (had recently been divorced) and seemed bored with me when we talked about anything other than sex (won't go into detail but me being more dominant in intimate scenarios certainly excited him) and old anime and manga he liked (which I enjoyed talking about but sometimes I wanna gush about my hyper fixations too or talk about anything else really and actually get a response beyond pure indifference, dammit 😤)

I experience a lot of imposter syndrome (IWNBAW, I can't be a trans woman AND a tomboy so clearly I'm just a delusional man, maybe I've convinced myself I'm trans when I'm not because it's more accepted now, etc.) but I honestly feel so, so, SO much happier and unburdened now than when I was trying to act as a guy in every facet of my life, having people know I'm trans and still treat me like a woman / not a man is nice. I really wanna get on hormones. I'm terrified of transphobia but am also admittedly lucky to live somewhere known for tolerant liberalism (even if much of it is performative) and am already openly a weirdo so hopefully not too much will change for the worse.
Thank you very much for the answers... I appreciate it very much andt I admire you. Have a happy new year:heart:
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: Nymph, Anonymoususer1234 and N33dT0D13

Similar threads

U
Replies
5
Views
295
Suicide Discussion
needthebus
needthebus
U
Replies
0
Views
99
Suicide Discussion
username12345
U
caliban
Replies
2
Views
311
Suicide Discussion
passer-by
passer-by
Kadaver
Replies
0
Views
130
Suicide Discussion
Kadaver
Kadaver
kaleido777
Replies
5
Views
260
Recovery
BeansOfRequirement
BeansOfRequirement