Venting How are you, +50 users?

[Sunset Limited]

Feeling old. My energy drops very quickly. A strange, indescribable feeling while walking down the street. Like I'm living through a second eye. I've slowed down. Losing my excitement. Feeling hopeless. Sleep problems. Constantly feeling tired.

If it's like this at 50, I can't imagine 60 and 70. Getting old is awful. You?

 

[Zapple]

This is a common phenomenon. At age 50, medically known as menopause, most people experience a rapid and precipitous decline in physical strength and energy. However, as long as you maintain exercise and keep your physical strength within a good range, you won't experience menopause. Since most people are relatively inactive, they are highly likely to experience menopause.

After reading many of your posts, I feel you have a deep understanding of propofol. I would like to ask you to review my post about propofol to see if it is reasonable. Of course, I know everyone is busy, so it's okay if you don't have time to read it.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/a-novel-approach-to-painless-euthanasia-propofol-plastic-bag-asphyxiation.246494/#post-3500121

Good luck!

 

[Ashu]

Feeling old. My energy drops very quickly. A strange, indescribable feeling while walking down the street. Like I'm living through a second eye. I've slowed down. Losing my excitement. Feeling hopeless. Sleep problems. Constantly feeling tired.

If it's like this at 50, I can't imagine 60 and 70. Getting old is awful. You?

I'm about to turn 56. Certainly the physical decline is very evident: less energy, more aches and pains. I'm happy that my sexuality has not been badly affected, because it's always been very important to me: I still have a high level of desire, good erections, orgasms are at least as intense as ever, often even more so. I have always been very active physically and mentally, every day I walk a lot and read and write for hours, so that must help to maintain vigor. I've also been vegetarian for thirty years, don't drink or do drugs either legal or illegal. I hope to remain as fit as possible for as long as I have left, though as always I hope for an early death, either naturally or eventually by my own hand.

 

[SASU-KE]

I'm about to turn 56. Certainly the physical decline is very evident: less energy, more aches and pains. I'm happy that my sexuality has not been badly affected, because it's always been very important to me: I still have a high level of desire, good erections, orgasms are at least as intense as ever, often even more so. I have always been very active physically and mentally, every day I walk a lot and read and write for hours, so that must help to maintain vigor. I've also been vegetarian for thirty years, don't drink or do drugs either legal or illegal. I hope to remain as fit as possible for as long as I have left, though as always I hope for an early death, either naturally or eventually by my own hand.

I'm happy for you ,keep it up!

 

[crossingtheriver]

I'm about to turn 56. Certainly the physical decline is very evident: less energy, more aches and pains. I'm happy that my sexuality has not been badly affected, because it's always been very important to me: I still have a high level of desire, good erections, orgasms are at least as intense as ever, often even more so. I have always been very active physically and mentally, every day I walk a lot and read and write for hours, so that must help to maintain vigor. I've also been vegetarian for thirty years, don't drink or do drugs either legal or illegal. I hope to remain as fit as possible for as long as I have left, though as always I hope for an early death, either naturally or eventually by my own hand.

Hello there! Nice to meet a Sanskritic in SaSU, I'm new here (just started a day ago). Are you associated with the Theosophical Society/Or Ramana Ashram by any chance? (I wanted to DM you, but I don't think as a new user I can DM yet)

 

[CatLvr]

This is a common phenomenon. At age 50, medically known as menopause, most people experience a rapid and precipitous decline in physical strength and energy. However, as long as you maintain exercise and keep your physical strength within a good range, you won't experience menopause. Since most people are relatively inactive, they are highly likely to experience menopause.

After reading many of your posts, I feel you have a deep understanding of propofol. I would like to ask you to review my post about propofol to see if it is reasonable. Of course, I know everyone is busy, so it's okay if you don't have time to read it.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/a-novel-approach-to-painless-euthanasia-propofol-plastic-bag-asphyxiation.246494/#post-3500121

Good luck!

Yeah ... Lol ... Both of my grandmothers worked side by side with my grandfathers back in the day -- one running a dairy cow operation and building cabinetry in new home construction; the other running a car dealership where, like my grandpa, she could do everything from selling to paperwork to turning a wrench. Both went through menopause.

My mom, a surgical RN, raised 7 kids with my dad and worked in his business on her days' off from the hospital. The business was anything but "office like" but they did have an office. She (as well as all us kids) could work a load of cattle, hold down a horse being gelded, chase loose cats around the building with the best of them.

I had PCOS, but still managed to get pregnant several times, eventually had to have a full hysterectomy where they also removed one ovary. Raised several kids as a single mom with no support of any kind, working 2 and 3 jobs at a time and keeping the kids active in martial arts -- including going to tournaments throughout the state, as money allowed. I went through menopause.

Every woman I have ever known, irregardless of their activity level (we are speaking age relatedness now -- I don't have any friends younger than their 40s who has started or gone through the change though it does happen) has gone through menopause -- some starting as early as their early to mid-40s.

Are you saying men go through menopause, too?? Men do go through a somewhat similar decline, but it is not nearly as drastic and involves different hormones than menopause does. And again, while activity levels may lessen some of the symptoms, it certainly does not stop the decline that comes with age-related hormonal changes.

See the related definitions below:

Menopause is the biological stage in life when menstrual periods permanently stop, marking the end of reproductive years. It is medically confirmed after a person goes 12 consecutive months without a period.

Men do not go through menopause, but they do experience a gradual, age-related decline in testosterone known as andropause or late-onset hypogonadism. Unlike women's sudden hormonal shifts during menopause, men's testosterone levels drop slowly—about 1% per year starting around age 30 to 40.



Also, I am not sure what going through menopause has to do with using proprofol to ctb ... Help me understand. I feel like I am missing a piece to the puzzle you are explaining and am truly curious.

Feeling old. My energy drops very quickly. A strange, indescribable feeling while walking down the street. Like I'm living through a second eye. I've slowed down. Losing my excitement. Feeling hopeless. Sleep problems. Constantly feeling tired.

If it's like this at 50, I can't imagine 60 and 70. Getting old is awful. You?

I went through the same thing in my late 50s -- the unrelenting exhaustion was the worst part for me. Back when I started all the conventional medical advice was that taking HRT was a bad thing for women and we needed to just manage the symptoms with OTC meds and herbals and gut it out. I eventually got through it but it was a brutal 12-15 years.

The good news is now they are saying that HRT is actually a good thing and doctors will now prescribe it if your symptoms are untenable. The short period of time I was on estrogen, before my doctor refused to give me a script any longer, it was a godsend and helped me an awful lot. Maybe it will help you too??

 

[Sunset Limited]

I'm about to turn 56. Certainly the physical decline is very evident: less energy, more aches and pains. I'm happy that my sexuality has not been badly affected, because it's always been very important to me: I still have a high level of desire, good erections, orgasms are at least as intense as ever, often even more so. I have always been very active physically and mentally, every day I walk a lot and read and write for hours, so that must help to maintain vigor. I've also been vegetarian for thirty years, don't drink or do drugs either legal or illegal. I hope to remain as fit as possible for as long as I have left, though as always I hope for an early death, either naturally or eventually by my own hand.

I admire your determination and discipline, my friend. I think I don't want to continue. Too many problems. That's affecting my motivation. I wish you the best.

This is a common phenomenon. At age 50, medically known as menopause, most people experience a rapid and precipitous decline in physical strength and energy. However, as long as you maintain exercise and keep your physical strength within a good range, you won't experience menopause. Since most people are relatively inactive, they are highly likely to experience menopause.

After reading many of your posts, I feel you have a deep understanding of propofol. I would like to ask you to review my post about propofol to see if it is reasonable. Of course, I know everyone is busy, so it's okay if you don't have time to read it.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/a-novel-approach-to-painless-euthanasia-propofol-plastic-bag-asphyxiation.246494/#post-3500121

Good luck!

Thank you very much.

Unfortunately, there isn't a single answer for everyone. Important criteria include:

- Gender
- Age
- Weight/Height
- Chronic diseases
- Addiction

The propofol dose isn't simply determined by the anesthesiologist based on these criteria. It needs titration. Still does a good job with many pharmacokinetic simulations. The anesthesia induction dose of propofol (to prepare the patient for intubation before inhalation anesthesia) is 2 mg/kg with premedication and 2.5 mg/kg without premedication. So, if you inject 175 mg of propofol into a 30-year-old, healthy, 70 kg person without addiction, their Glasgow Coma Score will be 3. Surgical anesthesia depth. Completely gone. However, the problem with propofol is its ultra-short acting. After 2-3 minutes, the depth of surgical anesthesia can revert to the depth of procedural sedation. This doesn't mean complete awakening. It's amnesia. You can feel things, but you can't remember. You can remove the bag from your head! That's why you need more than the anesthesia induction dose.

This is where the problem begins. If you have 1% propofol, the maximum dose you can inject in 15 seconds through a large vein in your arm with a 22g cannula is 300mg. That's if you can tolerate the pain. Whether that dose is sufficient depends on the criteria.

There are three options: double injection with two IV catheters, infusion, or finding 2% propofol or anestofol. As you can see, it's quite a complicated procedure for someone who isn't a healthcare professional.

 

[Ashu]

Hello there! Nice to meet a Sanskritic in SaSU, I'm new here (just started a day ago). Are you associated with the Theosophical Society/Or Ramana Ashram by any chance? (I wanted to DM you, but I don't think as a new user I can DM yet)

No, I've always been just one degree of separation from Ramana Maharshi and Arunachalam, but I am isolated and independent, I work for a Sanskrit research institute and my personal devotion is to the Mahabharata and Ramayana. Do you do any Sanskrit?

 

[crossingtheriver]

No, I've always been just one degree of separation from Ramana Maharshi and Arunachalam, but I am isolated and independent, I work for a Sanskrit research institute and my personal devotion is to the Mahabharata and Ramayana. Do you do any Sanskrit?

Sanskrit has been a personal interest of mine, not in a professional capacity. Also, we're not encouraged to learn sanskrit, at least in southern India only Brahmins historically and now academicians study Sanskrit. That said, my interest in sanskrit is religiously motivated and superficial, I listen to Carnatic music kirtis (songs) in Sanskrit especially the Muthuswami Dikshitar compositions. Would you be able to send me a personal message I can share some details there? I guess as a new user I can't send you messages.

 

[Zapple]

I admire your determination and discipline, my friend. I think I don't want to continue. Too many problems. That's affecting my motivation. I wish you the best.

Thank you very much.

Unfortunately, there isn't a single answer for everyone. Important criteria include:

- Gender
- Age
- Weight/Height
- Chronic diseases
- Addiction

The propofol dose isn't simply determined by the anesthesiologist based on these criteria. It needs titration. Still does a good job with many pharmacokinetic simulations. The anesthesia induction dose of propofol (to prepare the patient for intubation before inhalation anesthesia) is 2 mg/kg with premedication and 2.5 mg/kg without premedication. So, if you inject 175 mg of propofol into a 30-year-old, healthy, 70 kg person without addiction, their Glasgow Coma Score will be 3. Surgical anesthesia depth. Completely gone. However, the problem with propofol is its ultra-short acting. After 2-3 minutes, the depth of surgical anesthesia can revert to the depth of procedural sedation. This doesn't mean complete awakening. It's amnesia. You can feel things, but you can't remember. You can remove the bag from your head! That's why you need more than the anesthesia induction dose.

This is where the problem begins. If you have 1% propofol, the maximum dose you can inject in 15 seconds through a large vein in your arm with a 22g cannula is 300mg. That's if you can tolerate the pain. Whether that dose is sufficient depends on the criteria.

There are three options: double injection with two IV catheters, infusion, or finding 2% propofol or anestofol. As you can see, it's quite a complicated procedure for someone who isn't a healthcare professional.

Thank you for your answer.

Yeah ... Lol ... Both of my grandmothers worked side by side with my grandfathers back in the day -- one running a dairy cow operation and building cabinetry in new home construction; the other running a car dealership where, like my grandpa, she could do everything from selling to paperwork to turning a wrench. Both went through menopause.

My mom, a surgical RN, raised 7 kids with my dad and worked in his business on her days' off from the hospital. The business was anything but "office like" but they did have an office. She (as well as all us kids) could work a load of cattle, hold down a horse being gelded, chase loose cats around the building with the best of them.

I had PCOS, but still managed to get pregnant several times, eventually had to have a full hysterectomy where they also removed one ovary. Raised several kids as a single mom with no support of any kind, working 2 and 3 jobs at a time and keeping the kids active in martial arts -- including going to tournaments throughout the state, as money allowed. I went through menopause.

Every woman I have ever known, irregardless of their activity level (we are speaking age relatedness now -- I don't have any friends younger than their 40s who has started or gone through the change though it does happen) has gone through menopause -- some starting as early as their early to mid-40s.

Are you saying men go through menopause, too?? Men do go through a somewhat similar decline, but it is not nearly as drastic and involves different hormones than menopause does. And again, while activity levels may lessen some of the symptoms, it certainly does not stop the decline that comes with age-related hormonal changes.

See the related definitions below:

Menopause is the biological stage in life when menstrual periods permanently stop, marking the end of reproductive years. It is medically confirmed after a person goes 12 consecutive months without a period.

Men do not go through menopause, but they do experience a gradual, age-related decline in testosterone known as andropause or late-onset hypogonadism. Unlike women's sudden hormonal shifts during menopause, men's testosterone levels drop slowly—about 1% per year starting around age 30 to 40.



Also, I am not sure what going through menopause has to do with using proprofol to ctb ... Help me understand. I feel like I am missing a piece to the puzzle you are explaining and am truly curious.


I went through the same thing in my late 50s -- the unrelenting exhaustion was the worst part for me. Back when I started all the conventional medical advice was that taking HRT was a bad thing for women and we needed to just manage the symptoms with OTC meds and herbals and gut it out. I eventually got through it but it was a brutal 12-15 years.

The good news is now they are saying that HRT is actually a good thing and doctors will now prescribe it if your symptoms are untenable. The short period of time I was on estrogen, before my doctor refused to give me a script any longer, it was a godsend and helped me an awful lot. Maybe it will help you too??

The physical fitness level I'm referring to might be different from your understanding of it; they're not the same thing. Based on extensive statistical data (hundreds of thousands of cases), as long as your physical fitness level is within the acceptable range, menopause has almost no impact on people (regardless of gender). Why is the impact so small? It's likely because superior physical condition offsets the effects of hormonal changes. The physical fitness level I'm referring to is related to one indicator: maximum oxygen uptake (VO2 max). When this indicator is within the acceptable range, I believe you've reached the ideal level. VO2 max cannot be increased through strength training (like on construction sites), only through aerobic and anaerobic exercise. Running is an excellent way to increase it; short bursts of anaerobic sprinting followed by extended aerobic running can rapidly improve physical fitness. Of course, when I say unaffected by menopause, I mainly mean that your physical strength and energy levels won't be affected. You'll be energetic, mentally sharp, your memory won't decline, and your sleep will be good. However, other issues like the cessation of menstruation are likely unavoidable.

 

[CatLvr]

Thank you for your answer.

The physical fitness level I'm referring to might be different from your understanding of it; they're not the same thing. Based on extensive statistical data (hundreds of thousands of cases), as long as your physical fitness level is within the acceptable range, menopause has almost no impact on people (regardless of gender). Why is the impact so small? It's likely because superior physical condition offsets the effects of hormonal changes. The physical fitness level I'm referring to is related to one indicator: maximum oxygen uptake (VO2 max). When this indicator is within the acceptable range, I believe you've reached the ideal level. VO2 max cannot be increased through strength training (like on construction sites), only through aerobic and anaerobic exercise. Running is an excellent way to increase it; short bursts of anaerobic sprinting followed by extended aerobic running can rapidly improve physical fitness. Of course, when I say unaffected by menopause, I mainly mean that your physical strength and energy levels won't be affected. You'll be energetic, mentally sharp, your memory won't decline, and your sleep will be good. However, other issues like the cessation of menstruation are likely unavoidable.

Okay then ... Lol

 

[EmptyBottle]

I'm feeling average ig.


Some hours ago, i folded my laptop (dell vostro 3450) screen down a bit, and noticed cracking on the bezel. idk if it can be closed without risking further damage, so ig it will be a home only laptop for now. The screen somehow works too.

Over a month ago, the laptop sustained a drop from 1m, from my bag (the zipper burst open lol) onto concrete footpath, yet the only damage I found was the caps lock key and some plastic cracking at the bottom.

At least I have a newer laptop (come to think of it will use the soft case for it, the old laptop had no case), which I could use for uni and got several months ago. Should make a boot usb for it ig.

Overall, ig life is mixed, as for the good parts: duckhunt and YT was fun, room temp was nice (with warm clothes), and I had watalappan too.

 

[SASU-KE]

I think I don't want to continue. Too many problems. That's affecting my motivation. I wish you the best.

I watched the Sunset Limited today because of your PFP. "I believe in the Sunset Limited".

Such a profound statement actually, when you think about it. Such a simple, actual, factual thing to believe in. It's going to be on time and it's going to be there for you and it's going to end all your suffering.

Anyway,that's a good recommendation

 

[Sunset Limited]

I watched the Sunset Limited today because of your PFP. "I believe in the Sunset Limited".

Such a profound statement actually, when you think about it. Such a simple, actual, factual thing to believe in. It's going to be on time and it's going to be there for you and it's going to end all your suffering.

Anyway,that's a good recommendation

Thanks, buddy. I hope you enjoyed the movie. I could have left this cosmic fiasco 12 years ago. I realized I can't do this to my mother. She died two months ago. Now there's nothing between me and Sunset Limited. I hope death is the end. All I want is to never be conscious again. My only fear is waking up in this nightmare.


"I want the dead to be dead forever. I don't want to be one of them, except of course you can't be one of them. You can't be one of the dead because that which, has no existence can have no community. No community! My heart warms just thinking about it. Blackness, aloneness ,silence, peace, and all of it only a heartbeat away."

― Cormac McCarthy, The Sunset Limited

 

[hmnow]

Nice to know there are older people here.

Somethings change and other things don't. Like the desire for suicide. It's been there since I was a teenager.

 

[Tesha]

I'm tired. Really tired.

@Zapple I'm interested in understanding your accredited medical background and training, specifically in relation to the management of menopause.

 

[EscThisPlace321]

I didn't read through the comments but your initial post in and of itself...is beautiful. Like....you made it to 50 which these days is a fucking accomplishment. I'm 37 and I've sourced some nembutal or whatever...but like thinking it over...dude fuck this system. Fuck these fake ass alien people trying to traffic and use people. And fuck the bullshit god that they worship. I hate everything about this planet but life in and of itself is not evil. The setup and fakeness of reality is. But real and true reality is not evil.

Congrats on making it to 50...your an inspiration to us all and I can't wait to see what this fake matrix world looks like when i reach your point.

I'll never give up though. Fuck demons.

 

[EmptyBottle]

I'm feeling average ig.
[trimmed]

I didn't read through the comments but your initial post in and of itself...is beautiful. Like....you made it to 50 which these days is a fucking accomplishment.

Oops, I replied to a 50+ discussion question (I'm 22).


Silly me thought it was "How are you, the 50 (or more) users of SaSu (who reply)", oops!

 

[CatLvr]

Oops, I replied to a 50+ discussion question (I'm 22).


Silly me thought it was "How are you, the 50 (or more) users of SaSu (who reply)", oops!

But ... How old do you FEEL?!? Because if memory serves me correctly I can remember quite a few Saturday mornings where I felt every bit of 900 years old ...

 

[EmptyBottle]

But ... How old do you FEEL?!? Because if memory serves me correctly I can remember quite a few Saturday mornings where I felt every bit of 900 years old ...

ooo, never considered that. Sometimes slightly older and younger than my age ig (older when I'm confident in coding, younger when I desire more freedom, and roughly the same age when I answer "I'm 22" when asked about my age)

 

[ConstantPain]

I'm also technically ineligible to participate so sorry to have no discipline, lol. I'm 49 and already feel old, tired, and useless. Since I was a kid I have felt older than I was because of rheumatoid arthritis. I would say I feel like I'm at least 70 right now due to all of my physical limitations and lack of energy. Still, I really don't want to turn 50. My appearance has already declined and I don't feel attractive at all. It also feels like the best part of my life is over and that it's only going to get worse.