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TAW122

TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
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They aren't. However, society as well as the mental health and psychiatric industry as well as the State wants as many people as possible to be productive, so instead of addressing the very problems (likely stemming from capitalism and society itself!), that cause people's lives to be shitty, they just medicate and drug away the person's issues while gaslighting them.
 
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EvisceratedJester

EvisceratedJester

|| What Else Could I Be But a Jester ||
Oct 21, 2023
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They aren't supposed to be a cure for a shitty life, nor are they advertised as such. They are meant to help with managing symptoms of mental illnesses. That's it. Some people find that they do help out a lot and others don't.
 
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WhatCouldHaveBeen32

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Oct 12, 2024
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Okay I worded this wrong now that I look at it , I don't find my life shit, I FIND LIFE ITSELF shit, I can do whatever things are considered objectively good for you or the norm, try to find a "passion" , I care for none of that personally. I've had this since I was a kid, I do wonder what would the psychiatrist answer to a 13-14 year old compared to 20 something if they said this.

They aren't. However, society as well as the mental health and psychiatric industry as well as the State wants as many people as possible to be productive, so instead of addressing the very problems (likely stemming from capitalism and society itself!), that cause people's lives to be shitty, they just medicate and drug away the person's issues while gaslighting them.
I think so too, the gaslighting part in special, I think holds the most truth, the treatment on top is just to sell the idea.



Also when I typed drugs , I really meant the illegal drugs, it's why I typed "and medication", people who tell you "just do LSD/Shrooms or weed." , why? if life comes down to these things, then is it really even worth living just for the next hit? is that all there is to this to 90% of the population and they are okay with it?
 
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Alexei_Kirillov

Alexei_Kirillov

i must rest here a moment
Mar 9, 2024
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Because the most common school of thought these days doesn't attribute misery to the basics of existence but to a "faulty" brain, so they think that if you just fix the brain, you'll fix your misery.

EDIT: I would also add that the vast majority of people think life is an end unto itself, so if drugs make you able to tolerate your suffering for longer, they consider that to be a win, even if it did nothing to change the source of that suffering.
 
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concession

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Jun 3, 2025
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why? if life comes down to these things, then is it really even worth living just for the next hit? is that all there is to this to 90% of the population and they are okay with it?
I guess everything comes down to you being able to fight your way through life and finding meaning along the way. Almost everyone has this question at some point in their life and drugs are rarely the answer.
Because the most common school of thought these days doesn't attribute misery to the basics of existence but to a "faulty" brain, so they think that if you just fix the brain, you'll fix your misery.
I do not think this to be true honestly. Medication is just the tool at your disposal, I hope no qualified doctor will say that you can medicate your problems away. It`s always about you being capable of dragging yourself out of ditches that life is constantly pushing you in.
 
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WhatCouldHaveBeen32

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I guess everything comes down to you being able to fight your way through life and finding meaning along the way. Almost everyone has this question at some point in their life and drugs are rarely the answer.
Personally, I do not want to find meaning because for me there is no meaning in being human. What I typed there is worded as a question to the people that think it isn't such a bad way to treat yourself. But it still probably comes down to that being the meaning in their lives or helping them find their meaning afterwards.

It's just somewhat alien to me when someone says things like this, like really, our "cures" or helpers/tools are drugs , food and sex? why? if you could find a way to help someone without abusing any physical trait of the human body, wouldn't that be a panacea compared to this? why don't we aim for that kind of cure? we always aim for these but I didn't ask to be a fucking human, I don't want to be one, I don't want to eat, I hate to eat, I hate touch, I hate people, I hate my brain, I hate chemicals, I hate being alive; these aren't options for me, it would be like a car crash victim victim getting into another car crash as a form of treatment.
 
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concession

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Personally, I do not want to find meaning because for me there is no meaning in being human. What I typed there is worded as a question to the people that think it isn't such a bad way to treat yourself. But it still probably comes down to that being the meaning in their lives or helping them find their meaning afterwards.
Giving up is a way too, I am not saying you can`t do this. I am pretty much the same.
 
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dontwakemeup

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Nov 11, 2024
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If I understand you correctly, sounds like you have no pleasures in this life? What others find fun and pleasure in, you do not? I think most of us feel the same.There is never a day I wake up excited either. I guess the question is why are we forced to be stuck here? It's so cruel to me. Do you work? Maybe try to find a way if you work to stay busy. Have you ever tried psych medicine? It won't cure you, but it has helped me by giving me the strength just to get out of the bed. Its definitely a start worth trying.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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I think the hope is that the artificial stimulation of endorphines/ dopamine or whatever will give us enough energy/ hope to re-engage with life enough that our natural hormones/ responses take over.

I agree with you though, even with heaps of energy and motivation, life is hard. Making ends meet is hard. Finding a tolerable job, making and keeping friends, dating, exercising, having hobbies. It's a difficult thing for even healthy people to balance. Plus, no pill can just give you a sense of purpose and not all people do find that.
 

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