Discussion Hot air balloon suicide method? Thoughts?

[Dark Window]

I see no threads on this.

What are your thoughts of going on a hot air balloon ride which will take you several hundred feet up, to secure a large height and therefore pretty much guarantee CTB?

 

[Forveleth]

My guess is you don't know how to fly the hot air balloon yourself, so you're going to be up there with someone else, which means when you go over the side and plummet to your death, there's going to be someone blaming themselves for taking you up there. That is incredibly unfair to do to another human being.

If you are the one flying the balloon by yourself, now you have this giant piece of fabric with a tank of flammable gas randomly floating around through the air that could land anywhere, get tangled in anything and set something on fire, also incredibly unsafe and very unfair to other humans. I wouldn't do this at all.

 

[Dark Window]

My guess is you don't know how to fly the hot air balloon yourself, so you're going to be up there with someone else, which means when you go over the side and plummet to your death, there's going to be someone blaming themselves for taking you up there. That is incredibly unfair to do to another human being.

If you are the one flying the balloon by yourself, now you have this giant piece of fabric with a tank of flammable gas randomly floating around through the air that could land anywhere, get tangled in anything and set something on fire, also incredibly unsafe and very unfair to other humans. I wouldn't do this at all.

This isn't a dilemma for those who don't really care.

I'd personally leave a note/letter on the balloon.

I'd of course not go up there by myself, it would be a balloon ride.

At least this way the people on the balloon will not see my corpse. But I don't care either way.

I'd leave a note advising why I did it and if I had assisted suicide options I'd have taken it, but I was desperate.

 

[unabletocope]

Seems completely unrealistic.

 

[lost_ange2211]

It sounds quite unique and rare. I wouldn't do it as I'm not the kind of person who wants to jump down somewhere. Money is also another big factor and maybe the people who will be with you. But if you like the idea, maybe get a nice view before you go down? Why not? Sounds actually quite nice.

 

[Kapsyl]

I just don't get why people go out of their way to particularly fuck with people with their suicide. I mean sure if it's some kind of a revenge or statement because of mistreatment sure it can be warranted, but a hot balloon pilot? Why go all this way to particularly fuck him.

First off a hot ballon is considered an aircraft, the pilot is responsible for the safety of everyone onboard. Because of this legislation there will be a thorough investigation and there will be questions on how the pilot could have prevented it. This will surely not make the pilot doubt himself possibly giving him psychological issues.

Second is the time, before going up there will be a safety briefing and you will be spending time with the pilot, maybe for a half an hour before actually having the opportunity to ctb. The pilot will surely not question himself if he could seen any sign of suicidal tendencies.

Another important point is if you're going on a private tour or the more common larger passenger tour. It's not unusual a hot ballon will accommodate 8-16 passengers, the chance of kids being on board is pretty high. The descent after the "jump" will be extremely awkward.

All these point could be dismissed if you simply don't care about the consequences so I will present actual reasons this is not a good idea.

You have to be a particular determined individual to just climb over with sufficient speed to not be stopped. The basked are quite high since there are designed to prevent people of falling over even when leaning over. Because of the pilot responsibility he will be used to keep an eye on people not doing anything dangerous and swiftly dragging them back into the basket. The difficulty will increase the smaller the basket is and especially if be yourself.

If the pilot tries to stop you what's the plan then? To fight him, punch him? Maybe even dragging him with you if he's particularly feisty and won't let go. If you determined to succeed it would actually be better to render him unable to stop you with either bondage or unconsciousness. Doesn't this sound completely unreasonable?

Hot air balloons are notoriously famous of being inconvenient since it heavily relies on favorable weather and winds to work. This random elements would require you to become ready making arrangements to ctb in a relatively short time span. Since you're not under control over what time it could be in a particular "good" day where you're not ready to robotically ctb with swift precision, If you were this ready you'd probably already done it.

I get that you'd maybe want to ctb in the air for the scenery, but this way just particular fucks with people. If you're so desperate to die this way skydiving would be much more appropriate.

It's a lot of work until you can skydive yourself but that's the price you'd have to pay if this is something you're really set on doing. It's not like people getting euthanized are allowed this option.

In my opinion this is a just a malicious way to fuck with people, why else would you go through all this trouble when there are plenty full of methods that require similar or less courage to succeed. But if that's your goal sure I guess you really showed the pilot.

 

[UKscotty]

Not fair on the operator. Not caring about other people is terrible in my opinion.

On a practical level its very risk too, could land on trees or something.

The only falls which are 100% guaranteed are onto concrete.

 

[DefinitelyReady]

In theory hot air balloons seem so cool, but fear would take over and then I'd probably sit down and hold onto the ropes.
I don't know if the original "Pippi" movie made me love hot air balloons or fear them.

 

[outrider567]

I see no threads on this.

What are your thoughts of going on a hot air balloon ride which will take you several hundred feet up, to secure a large height and therefore pretty much guarantee CTB?

Won't work, whoever is with you will stop it

 

[set0553]

Hate heights.. Really. Hate. Heights but if you don't mind heights, id say it sounds exhilarating ..

In theory hot air balloons seem so cool, but fear would take over and then I'd probably sit down and hold onto the ropes.
I don't know if the original "Pippi" movie made me love hot air balloons or fear them.

I think the original pippi movies made me hate everything. but id be holding the ropes right next to you. Haha.

 

[LaughingGoat]

I just don't get why people go out of their way to particularly fuck with people with their suicide. I mean sure if it's some kind of a revenge or statement because of mistreatment sure it can be warranted, but a hot balloon pilot? Why go all this way to particularly fuck him.

First off a hot ballon is considered an aircraft, the pilot is responsible for the safety of everyone onboard. Because of this legislation there will be a thorough investigation and there will be questions on how the pilot could have prevented it. This will surely not make the pilot doubt himself possibly giving him psychological issues.

Second is the time, before going up there will be a safety briefing and you will be spending time with the pilot, maybe for a half an hour before actually having the opportunity to ctb. The pilot will surely not question himself if he could seen any sign of suicidal tendencies.

Another important point is if you're going on a private tour or the more common larger passenger tour. It's not unusual a hot ballon will accommodate 8-16 passengers, the chance of kids being on board is pretty high. The descent after the "jump" will be extremely awkward.

All these point could be dismissed if you simply don't care about the consequences so I will present actual reasons this is not a good idea.

You have to be a particular determined individual to just climb over with sufficient speed to not be stopped. The basked are quite high since there are designed to prevent people of falling over even when leaning over. Because of the pilot responsibility he will be used to keep an eye on people not doing anything dangerous and swiftly dragging them back into the basket. The difficulty will increase the smaller the basket is and especially if be yourself.

If the pilot tries to stop you what's the plan then? To fight him, punch him? Maybe even dragging him with you if he's particularly feisty and won't let go. If you determined to succeed it would actually be better to render him unable to stop you with either bondage or unconsciousness. Doesn't this sound completely unreasonable?

Hot air balloons are notoriously famous of being inconvenient since it heavily relies on favorable weather and winds to work. This random elements would require you to become ready making arrangements to ctb in a relatively short time span. Since you're not under control over what time it could be in a particular "good" day where you're not ready to robotically ctb with swift precision, If you were this ready you'd probably already done it.

I get that you'd maybe want to ctb in the air for the scenery, but this way just particular fucks with people. If you're so desperate to die this way skydiving would be much more appropriate.

It's a lot of work until you can skydive yourself but that's the price you'd have to pay if this is something you're really set on doing. It's not like people getting euthanized are allowed this option.

In my opinion this is a just a malicious way to fuck with people, why else would you go through all this trouble when there are plenty full of methods that require similar or less courage to succeed. But if that's your goal sure I guess you really showed the pilot.

Couldn't agree more with everything you said. I think it's the one place on this site where being harsh is needed given how frequently I see people take out their frustration of life out on people who weren't the cause and have nothing to do with it. If someone was abused by their parents so they blow their brains out in front of them, power to you, but it's vile to do that to people who are innocent (cue the edgelords saying no person is innocent and every human is pure evil).

 

[bebeblu]

Seems completely unrealistic.

Someone did this recently in Vic, Australia …. Full basket of people on a joy ride traumatised forever, not to mention the people on the ground who saw him hit it

 

[DeIetedUser4739]

Someone did this recently in Vic, Australia …. Full basket of people on a joy ride traumatised forever, not to mention the people on the ground who saw him hit it

I was thinking of this when I read the thread title, he also hit the power lines before hitting the ground and still died.

 

[bebeblu]

I was thinking of this when I read the thread title, he also hit the power lines before hitting the ground and still died.

He did fall/ jump from quite a height ….

 

[Dark Window]

Won't work, whoever is with you will stop it

Is this a 100% certainty is it?

In my opinion this is a just a malicious way to fuck with people, why else would you go through all this trouble when there are plenty full of methods that require similar or less courage to succeed. But if that's your goal sure I guess you really showed the pilot.

If it's a way that works then that's the reason. You're acting as if anyone wanting to do it this way is looking to hurt people.

That's not the case necessarily, sometimes it's just a case of finding a method that works.

If I don't have euthanasia/maid, if I don't have guns, no easy access to things like SN and the necessary drugs along side it, then my options are limited down to hanging, drowning, jumping and train.

Drowning is just a terrible way to die, hanging is hard to get right and painful, train is risky.

Falling from a very high height is is a good way to ensure success and that's why some people do it, and if you don't have easy access to high cliffs, then falling from a high building may be necessary.

A hot air balloon may take you up to a very high height from which CTB is very close to certain.

That's why people consider it, not because they are sadistic but because it may be literally one of the few options they have available.

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Example - I posted threads previously on using the train method and had a guy telling me that I should never use this method and he'd never consider it in any circumstances.

He went to go CTB via jumping from a bridge, but the bridge was monitored heavily and had a suicide barrier which he was not aware of while planning his CTB.

On the day of his CTB, he was so sure he wanted to die, that he killed himself by, you guessed it, by train method. The exact method he preached to everyone about and how it was awful and selfish, he did it to end his suffering.

If you were suffering enough you'd want a way out, and morals would go out the window. Trust me.

 

[outrider567]

Is this a 100% certainty is it?


If it's a way that works then that's the reason. You're acting as if anyone wanting to do it this way is looking to hurt people.

That's not the case necessarily, sometimes it's just a case of finding a method that works.

If I don't have euthanasia/maid, if I don't have guns, no easy access to things like SN and the necessary drugs along side it, then my options are limited down to hanging, drowning, jumping and train.

Drowning is just a terrible way to die, hanging is hard to get right and painful, train is risky.

Falling from a very high height is is a good way to ensure success and that's why some people do it, and if you don't have easy access to high cliffs, then falling from a high building may be necessary.

A hot air balloon may take you up to a very high height from which CTB is very close to certain.

That's why people consider it, not because they are sadistic but because it may be literally one of the few options they have available.

-------

Example - I posted threads previously on using the train method and had a guy telling me that I should never use this method and he'd never consider it in any circumstances.

He went to go CTB via jumping from a bridge, but the bridge was monitored heavily and had a suicide barrier which he was not aware of while planning his CTB.

On the day of his CTB, he was so sure he wanted to die, that he killed himself by, you guessed it, by train method. The exact method he preached to everyone about and how it was awful and selfish, he did it to end his suffering.

If you were suffering enough you'd want a way out, and morals would go out the window. Trust me.

I'm not saying 100% certain, maybe if you flip over backwards before anyone can grab you, maybe--You definitely wouldn't survive the fall, they really go up high

Is this a 100% certainty is it?


If it's a way that works then that's the reason. You're acting as if anyone wanting to do it this way is looking to hurt people.

That's not the case necessarily, sometimes it's just a case of finding a method that works.

If I don't have euthanasia/maid, if I don't have guns, no easy access to things like SN and the necessary drugs along side it, then my options are limited down to hanging, drowning, jumping and train.

Drowning is just a terrible way to die, hanging is hard to get right and painful, train is risky.

Falling from a very high height is is a good way to ensure success and that's why some people do it, and if you don't have easy access to high cliffs, then falling from a high building may be necessary.

A hot air balloon may take you up to a very high height from which CTB is very close to certain.

That's why people consider it, not because they are sadistic but because it may be literally one of the few options they have available.

-------

Example - I posted threads previously on using the train method and had a guy telling me that I should never use this method and he'd never consider it in any circumstances.

He went to go CTB via jumping from a bridge, but the bridge was monitored heavily and had a suicide barrier which he was not aware of while planning his CTB.

On the day of his CTB, he was so sure he wanted to die, that he killed himself by, you guessed it, by train method. The exact method he preached to everyone about and how it was awful and selfish, he did it to end his suffering.

If you were suffering enough you'd want a way out, and morals would go out the window. Trust me.

A quick Google search shows that people have indeed succeeded in killing themselves by jumping from hot air balloons, one woman fell 4000 feet

 

[Edpal247]

For liability reasons the ballon companies put a harness or belt on you with a strap. They don't want accidents. Give up this idea, imo.

 

[opheliaoveragain]

IMO, ditch this plan. Too many variables you cannot control plus you may not even die.