Hope?

[Jack4230]

this is a question to the older members. Is there hope? I joined this site 3 years ago in high school and the only reason I haven't killed myself is because im too young to know if life will stay this shitty.

 

[jodes2]

How old? I'm 40 ish. Life improves for many but it depends on what your issues are. Even people with incurable problems find ways of coping with it. Then again I've been suicidal on and off for 20 years so meh....

 

[Jack4230]

How old? I'm 40 ish. Life improves for many but it depends on what your issues are. Even people with incurable problems find ways of coping with it. Then again I've been suicidal on and off for 20 years so meh....

Kinda the answer i was looking for, thanks

 

[Teddybear]

this is a question to the older members. Is there hope? I joined this site 3 years ago in high school and the only reason I haven't killed myself is because im too young to know if life will stay this shitty.

I've learned to be careful in giving youngens advice, as it rubs some the wrong way.

Once you've turned 18 the law says you are master of your own fate. But my experience tells me, that that day might actually still be a looong way off.

And in my view too many young people suffer from "Werther's syndrome", where they seek death as an escape route (CTB -> "Catching The Bus' but to where?) instead of trying to hasten & shorten a fate, that would await them around the corner anyway.

Life can be wonderful, gorgeous, breathtaking at times. But it can also break you and rob you of the air to breathe.

The question that I ask myself is: How much life got I left to live - and how much of that might be worth living?!

I am not sure how a young person w/o a debillitating illness(!) could ever know, that all that awaits them from here on out would be misery & pain.

A girl friend that just left you or a shitty time in school should certainly *not* count in this equasition.

For myself I know that I won't be "catching any bus": Death is the exact opposite of motion. Its the end of everything, including sorrow & pain.

But it will also terminate hope, the eternal privilege of youth. And just out of respect for life you should allow for hope to die last, before you do.

 

[PArazi]

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[Cathy Ames]

this is a question to the older members. Is there hope? I joined this site 3 years ago in high school and the only reason I haven't killed myself is because im too young to know if life will stay this shitty.

I remember you, but I don't exactly remember what your issues were. I think at one point you needed to find a summer job--that's all I remember. [I hope you found one that you didn't hate.]

If you don't make any changes, then nothing will change, and life very well might stay this shitty.

If you
complete your degree (that's a change),
get a job in your field that you don't hate (that's a change),
get a new hobby that you enjoy (that's a change),
go to therapy or switch therapists if you ARE in therapy (that's a change),
move out of your parents' house if you still live there (that's a change),
get a pet if you don't have one already (that's a change),
meet and get involved with a romantic partner (that's a change),
develop friendships,
travel to some new places you've never been before,
etc., etc.,

Well... life might NOT stay this shitty. Life might become generally tolerable, with some shitty stuff and some great stuff sprinkled in there.

P.S. Editing to add... I am NOT saying you would need to do every single thing that I mentioned. [Plus there are many other possibilities not mentioned.] Mainly I am saying that you are at an age where many things can be changed--they're expected to change, in fact.

 

[Regen]

It would be so nice if you could answer this question clearly. That would be good to know in both directions.

I have been depressed since I was a teenager and that was about 30 years ago. Damn. Life has improved on the one hand, but on the other hand I am still sure that my life will end by suicide. But there have been times even with me when I definitely didn't think about suicide. Overall, though, I'm still very much struggling with my various mental illnesses.

BUT: I know an incredible number of people who struggled and suffered greatly in their teens and well into their twenties (or beyond) and who are now, in all seriousness, doing well...... And with whom I would never have thought that because they really had problems.... I have no idea why some are suddenly doing so well. And some just don't. I am very happy for them! But I am also frustrated that this happiness for me failed to materialize.

What I want to say, it is really worthwhile to try it. And not just for one, two or three years. But longer and with as many healthy methods as possible. In the end, it doesn't matter what helps, the main thing is that it helps. Sometimes a thing takes time to work, it's like a seed, you do something to improve it and the improvement is very delayed, but it happens because you tried to do exactly that at the time.

You won't get an objective opinion by querying here on the website. We are here because we are not well. All the people who have made it don't hang around here. I'm really not against suicide, hahaha, but it is ALWAYS worth many attempts to try it differently. Fortunately, the last resort does not run away from you!!!

 

[Hollowillow]

this is a question to the older members. Is there hope? I joined this site 3 years ago in high school and the only reason I haven't killed myself is because im too young to know if life will stay this shitty.

Depends. If you hate lufe because of control freak parents, moving out will solve it. For me it was abuse but my vulberability attracted more abuse while scaring away "good" people. For me, I wish I was gone sooner... Failed to start my career, got hit by a car, more abuse, more pain... I poisonned my last hope for a home with corrosive home nade cleaner mix... I deserve death... I look back & nothing was worth that much pain. But yours might get solved... But society's demands are crap. If you only follow & do as told without trying new paths it won't change (for me it was to ban medicine & embrace nutrition) best of luck forging your own path.

 

[Blondie]

For me personally hope is what keeps me going, it's been 13 years since my last attempt, don't get me wrong I still think alot about suicide but I've learnt to cope to a degree and not go through with it and just keep trying, one of the main things I done was cut toxic people out of my life including my own mother

 

[Dead Ghost]

For me personally hope is what keeps me going, it's been 13 years since my last attempt, don't get me wrong I still think alot about suicide but I've learnt to cope to a degree and not go through with it and just keep trying, one of the main things I done was cut toxic people out of my life including my own mother

Here we are what they call toxic people, but I see what you mean. You just want the people who should help you and don't at least not prevent you from trying it yourself.

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Aquí som el que anomenen gent tòxica, però entenc el que vols dir. Només vols que la gent que t'hauría d'ajudar i no ho fa almenys no et possi impediments per intentar-ho tu mateixa.

 

[Mr2005]

Just the fact you'd join a place like this in highschool means the world isn't what it was but that's not your problem, you never knew any different. Yeah I think everyone that young is lucky really. Wait until you get to 30 and if it's no better then you can start considering it

 

[Teddybear]

Just the fact you'd join a place like this in highschool means the world isn't what it was but that's not your problem, you never knew any different. Yeah I think everyone that young is lucky really. Wait until you get to 30 and if it's no better then you can start considering it

Thanks for not just cheering on death. If not for old age and the chaos of our days "conspiring" to catch up with me at the same time, then I wouldn't be here myself.

As traumatic as my childhood and my school experiences were, life could offer me so much compensation for my suffering, that I was able to - literally - run away from all those troubles.

If I had only had that stroke of luck - or genius - at certain points of my life, heaven only knows how things might have turned around for me.

If you are young you got options - the one thing old geezers like myself envy you for most. Just wait and if things don't improve, you can always X yourself tomorrow or next year - or the one after that.

Death is in no hurry, so neither should you.

 

[Mr2005]

Thanks for not just cheering on death. If not for old age and the chaos of our days "conspiring" to catch up with me at the same time, then I wouldn't be here myself.

As traumatic as my childhood and my school experiences were, life could offer me so much compensation for my suffering, that I was able to - literally - run away from all those troubles.

If I had only had that stroke of luck - or genius - at certain points of my life, heaven only knows how things might have turned around for me.

If you are young you got options - the one thing old geezers like myself envy you for most. Just wait and if things don't improve, you can always X yourself tomorrow or next year - or the one after that.

Death is in no hurry, so neither should you.

I appreciated what you said about trying to see the good in the world instead of focusing on the bad. Ignoring it might not make it go away but we're not just perpetuating the cycle. Not everyone's so lucky but for most it's a choice whether to make it part of our reality or not

 

[Teddybear]

I appreciated what you said about trying to see the good in the world instead of focusing on the bad. Ignoring it might not make it go away but we're not just perpetuating the cycle. Not everyone's so lucky but for most it's a choice whether to make it part of our reality or not

I seconded the motion for an "old people's forum" on SS, as I have a hard time nudging young kids on to X themselves out of some present day troubles I know they won't even care to remember a few years down the road.

Some "death cheerleaders" here think that anyone telling youngens that life can be full of chances, too, is "disrespecting their suffering".

That kind of reply always makes me wonder "why the heck is that guy still breathing?"

Physical or mental illness can make life unbearable even in young age. But a boyfriend that dumped you or nasty classmates - those demons will vanish into nothingness before you are old enough for stinky feet.

So yeah, I'd like to discuss D&D with folks like myself - people who have largely lived their life and got nothing left to look forward to.

Young kids sounding like old geezers just makes me sad - and I got enough sadness in my life already.

 

[hamvil]

this is a question to the older members. Is there hope? I joined this site 3 years ago in high school and the only reason I haven't killed myself is because im too young to know if life will stay this shitty.

I will falling in the false positivism group. I think that the core of the point is that at your age there are still many events and changes you have to witness. College, stable romantic relationship, job and career. They have the potential to be change for the good if you play your cards well. Do not ask me for suggestions about that because I am not really the right person. Peace

 

[Celerity]

I would wait. Life reached peak shittiness when I was 24. It's still not great, but it has improved substantially since then. Give yourself a chance to get more experience.

 

[Hurt]

I joined 2 years ago and I didnt find hope. I only survived these years. It's a miracle that I'm still alive. These years were too hard for me. And I still feel hopeless.

 

[Arrow]

If you're still alive and breathing there is some amount of hope, some tiny spark, no matter how small.