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LonelyandAlone

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Jul 31, 2022
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Guys, what do you think about Heroin OD as a suicide method? Up until now, I thought my preferred method of suicide was hanging, because it's a very deadly one. I even bought a rope today. But after doing a lot of research, I think I would love to OD on Heroin. I've thought a lot about it and I think I would prefer ODing on Heroin above anything else. I've heard it's such a peaceful way to go. I think it's the most peaceful way EVER. No pain, no suffering, no shortness of breath. If the dose is high enough you won't feel anything at all, you will pass out and die without even realizing that you are dying. Sounds like paradise. But I have some serious problems with this method: first of all, I have no idea where I can get Heroin. This is the main problem. Also, I have absolutely no experience with intravenous drugs, so I am not sure if I can do it right and if there is a way to know if the stuff is potent enough to cause death. But I think I am smart enough to figure out how to inject myself with the stuff if I ever get my hands on it. Money is not a problem for me, I can pay whatever it takes. The only problem is I don't know where to get this stuff. Btw, I live in Europe but I can travel (anywhere). Can anyone please help me with this? Do you have any ideas/suggestions? Thank you.
 
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summers

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First, get some insulin syringes and bac water and practice hitting a vein. It's not hard, but may take a few tries, especially if you're not vascular.

I'm leaning toward h od too. I think one of the best things about this method is you can actually inject a little first to get high and reduce si, then go for the fatal dose.

Not too sure about the difficulty in finding it. But it can't be too hard. I would assume if you know someone who sells pills, weed, or coke, they can get you or direct you to H.
 
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ooglah

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Jun 17, 2022
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I ordered two grams last night. 👀

I'm hoping it'll do the trick.
 
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summers

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Nov 4, 2020
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I only had enough Monero in my wallet to get 2g, if I want any more I'll have to convert more BTC to XMR
I think two should do it. I would just be concerned with the purity, and idk if there is a way to check that...
 
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CemetryGates

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Apr 10, 2022
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I would like to go that way myself but i'm scared of buying drugs online.
Fentanyl would be my ideal choice I think.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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I would love to go out this method. Actually, my Mum was given heroin in the last stages of her life in the hospital (cancer). I think they helped her on her way. The doctor told my Dad she would go out in a 'blaze of glory'. Think it's so brave and compassionate of them (when it's appropriate- obviously!)

The idea of me trying to buy drugs is laughable though. I'm so square. Actually, I don't live far from one of fentanyl hotspots in the country. So, in theory, stuff is available. Just bet I'd get caught and end up with a criminal record if I tried anything like that. Also, I'm pathetically squemish about injections- or- at least seeing them... I'm OK if I don't watch! Think you'd need to look at what you were doing to inject yourself though! Seems so pathetic but just about every method I can think of, there are massive fears putting me off.
 
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LonelyandAlone

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Thank you for your thoughts/advice everyone. I am scared of buying drugs online because I am 99% sure I will never get them. I've heard too many stories about people who bought drugs online but the drugs never went through the customs and those people ended up having criminal records. I don't want this happening to me, I have too many problems already and I don't need another problem. I would prefer buying it on the street. As I've mentioned before I am ready to travel anywhere in the world (literally). If anyone could help me with this, I would pay you a generous amount of money for your help (and I mean it). This is a serious offer. We can talk in private if you want and you will see how serious I am about this.
 
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Sunset Limited

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Jul 29, 2019
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There are some problems with this method. You can't be sure of the purity of a street drug. This is different in every country. For heroin, I heard it's 5% in America. If that's true, every gram of heroin you buy will contain 50mg of heroin. The LD50 of opiates is specific. 70mg can kill someone but someone else can survive with 300mg. I read that the LD50 of heroin is 350mg. That's 700mg if you want to dose twice as much for a guarantee. So that's 14 grams of street heroin. When you dissolve it in water it will probably be a 30cc solution. It may not be easy to inject 30cc of solution in as long as an arm-brain circulation. Infusion seems like a better option. It's not an easy route if you're not a healthcare professional.
 
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melonskylab

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Jun 19, 2022
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How to OD on heroin:

All you have to do is order it off a darknet market (Dread has discussion on good vendors and marketplaces). Get a syringe needle, distilled water, a cigarette filter, a spoon and a lighter.

Since it's your first time, OD'ing on heroin is quite easy, as the heroin and synthetic "heroin" (fentanyl) you find on the marketplaces is quite pure and resemble white powder (if it isn't white powder and it looks brown, is tar or is solid, then the purity is usually lower and you might need an acid to dissolve it in water). Put distilled water onto the spoon, then add your heroin. Heat up and stir the mixture until the heroin is fully dissolved in the distilled water.

Next you put the disassembled (the part of the filter that looks like white cotton) cigarette filter in the middle of the spoon, then you fill up the syringe by placing the needle in the middle of the filter and sucking up all of the mixture. Next you make sure there isn't any air in the syringe by slightly squirting some of the heroin out.

What you do next is apply a tourniquet around your upper arm to make your veins bulge out. Once you find a suitable vein, insert the needle carefully until you think it's fully inside of a vein. To make sure it's in a vein, you can pull on the syringe plunger (blood usually shoots into the syringe even if you don't pull on the plunder) to withdraw some blood from your vein. If there's no blood, that means you're not in a vein.

So that's how you successfully shoot up heroin and possibly OD if you choose. People have described OD'ing on heroin as one of their most pleasurable moments of their life up until they're unconscious. They describe losing consciousness as "going to sleep", just like you would go to sleep at night, but in one last euphoric haze.

The only way to survive an OD is if someone finds you and administers you narcan. Death can occur as little as 5 minutes after injecting.

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summers

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There are some problems with this method. You can't be sure of the purity of a street drug. This is different in every country. For heroin, I heard it's 5% in America. If that's true, every gram of heroin you buy will contain 50mg of heroin. The LD50 of opiates is specific. 70mg can kill someone but someone else can survive with 300mg. I read that the LD50 of heroin is 350mg. That's 700mg if you want to dose twice as much for a guarantee. So that's 14 grams of street heroin. When you dissolve it in water it will probably be a 30cc solution. It may not be easy to inject 30cc of solution in as long as an arm-brain circulation. Infusion seems like a better option. It's not an easy route if you're not a healthcare professional.
I'm going to say those numbers are way off. If the actual lethal amounts were that high, no one would ever OD. The LD50 is what you can actually buy, not pure, uncut heroin. Not even the heaviest users are shooting up 7-14g at one time. 14g is half an ounce.
 
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Sunset Limited

I believe in Sunset Limited
Jul 29, 2019
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I'm going to say those numbers are way off. If the actual lethal amounts were that high, no one would ever OD. The LD50 is what you can actually buy, not pure, uncut heroin. Not even the heaviest users are shooting up 7-14g at one time. 14g is half an ounce.
According to the data below, the LD50 is 350 mg. For someone with naive opiate receptors. As a "350mg" dose I don't think they meant a street drug of unknown purity, that wouldn't be very scientific. You don't know how much heroin is in it, whether fentanyl is in the equation. When it comes to cases of OD, the answers to many questions, such as how many milligrams one actually injects, the degree of purity, whether there are other types of drugs in it, whether the person is mixing it with another drug, whether or not he has been drinking alcohol, are often hazy.

According to the study, an addict seems to be able to tolerate 1800mg of heroin.

"Several studies done in the 1920s gave users doses of 1,600–1,800 mg of heroin in one sitting, and no adverse effects were reported."


"The LD50​ for a physically addicted person is prohibitively high, to the point that there is no general medical consensus on where to place it. Several studies done in the 1920s gave users doses of 1,600–1,800 mg of heroin in one sitting, and no adverse effects were reported. Even for a non-user, the LD50​ can be placed above 350 mg though some sources give a figure of between 75 and 375 mg for a 75 kg person.[28]"​

 
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iridescent.darkness

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Nov 9, 2021
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i too have thought of this method… a lot of seasoned H users OD and die, so surely for a rookie it must be easier as we have no tolerance?
 
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summers

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According to the data below, the LD50 is 350 mg. For someone with naive opiate receptors. As a "350mg" dose I don't think they meant a street drug of unknown purity, that wouldn't be very scientific. You don't know how much heroin is in it, whether fentanyl is in the equation. When it comes to cases of OD, the answers to many questions, such as how many milligrams one actually injects, the degree of purity, whether there are other types of drugs in it, whether the person is mixing it with another drug, whether or not he has been drinking alcohol, are often hazy.

According to the study, an addict seems to be able to tolerate 1800mg of heroin.

"Several studies done in the 1920s gave users doses of 1,600–1,800 mg of heroin in one sitting, and no adverse effects were reported."


"The LD50​ for a physically addicted person is prohibitively high, to the point that there is no general medical consensus on where to place it. Several studies done in the 1920s gave users doses of 1,600–1,800 mg of heroin in one sitting, and no adverse effects were reported. Even for a non-user, the LD50​ can be placed above 350 mg though some sources give a figure of between 75 and 375 mg for a 75 kg person.[28]"​

Yeah, I can see an addict handling 2g of standard street level shit. For a non-addict, 2-3g is almost certainly going to be fatal, unless you got completely ripped off and just got some staight up baking soda.
 
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Suspect_Device

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Jul 10, 2022
139
I've OD'd on heroin twice back in the day (it was black tar H) and I don't remember a thing about either experience after I pressed the plunger down. SI is not a factor at all. If I hadn't been found I would definitely be dead right now. I would go this way now but I look like a square these days and no one would sell me shit.

You can teach yourself to use a needle, it doesn't hurt like when they start an IV in the hospital.
 
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TheBeautifulNightma

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Aug 1, 2022
36
Guys, what do you think about Heroin OD as a suicide method? Up until now, I thought my preferred method of suicide was hanging, because it's a very deadly one. I even bought a rope today. But after doing a lot of research, I think I would love to OD on Heroin. I've thought a lot about it and I think I would prefer ODing on Heroin above anything else. I've heard it's such a peaceful way to go. I think it's the most peaceful way EVER. No pain, no suffering, no shortness of breath. If the dose is high enough you won't feel anything at all, you will pass out and die without even realizing that you are dying. Sounds like paradise. But I have some serious problems with this method: first of all, I have no idea where I can get Heroin. This is the main problem. Also, I have absolutely no experience with intravenous drugs, so I am not sure if I can do it right and if there is a way to know if the stuff is potent enough to cause death. But I think I am smart enough to figure out how to inject myself with the stuff if I ever get my hands on it. Money is not a problem for me, I can pay whatever it takes. The only problem is I don't know where to get this stuff. Btw, I live in Europe but I can travel (anywhere). Can anyone please help me with this? Do you have any ideas/suggestions? Thank you.

If money is not an issue with you, you can consider getting it off the streets and/or dark webs.
 
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locked*n*loaded

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Apr 15, 2022
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SI is not a factor at all
Yeah, but you weren't intentionally attempting to kill yourself. You were only seeking to get high. SI may become a factor when you load your syringe with enough H that you KNOW will kill you when you inject it.
 
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Dried_Ink

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Aug 1, 2022
44
Yeah, but you weren't intentionally attempting to kill yourself. You were only seeking to get high. SI may become a factor when you load your syringe with enough H that you KNOW will kill you when you inject it.
After depressing the plunger on a syringe full of a lethal dose of fentanyl on five separate occasions, I can confidently say that SI is negligible with this method.
 
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locked*n*loaded

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Apr 15, 2022
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After depressing the plunger on a syringe full of a lethal dose of fentanyl on five separate occasions, I can confidently say that SI is negligible with this method.
But, apparently, it hasn't worked out for you, at least not in the lethal sense. Were the 5 separate (unsuccessful) occasions Narcan interventions?
 
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Dried_Ink

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Aug 1, 2022
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But, apparently, it hasn't worked out for you, at least not in the lethal sense. Were the 5 separate (unsuccessful) occasions Narcan interventions?
They were not. I made sure to do it where I wouldn't be found for well over 8 hours. I had no tolerance to the substance. I simply went unconscious immediately after taking the shot (sign of OD) and woke up after typically 4-6 hours, still high but very much alive. It makes no sense. Opiate users with a years-long habit and tolerance have ODed on quantities far less than what I took. Part of why I'm going the SN route, despite the potential discomfort associated with the method.
 
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locked*n*loaded

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Apr 15, 2022
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They were not. I made sure to do it where I wouldn't be found for well over 8 hours. I had no tolerance to the substance. I simply went unconscious immediately after taking the shot (sign of OD) and woke up after typically 4-6 hours, still high but very much alive. It makes no sense. Opiate users with a years-long habit and tolerance have ODed on quantities far less than what I took. Part of why I'm going the SN route, despite the potential discomfort associated with the method.
That's the kind of thing that makes any method of ctb uncertain. One just never knows.
 
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Euthanza

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Jun 9, 2022
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According to the data below, the LD50 is 350 mg. For someone with naive opiate receptors.
LD50 means there's 50% of lethality in the population tested. I think it will be in more certainty if we can go any methods when ED95 information is available for the public.
 
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Lily (Osako)

Everything all at once
Jul 30, 2022
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This or N are my preferred methods.
I did practice to see if I'd be able to do it.
It was way easier than I had expected.
I just don't know what dose and I don't know if it's possible for anyone to tell me.
I also take Kratom for pain.
I have a very painful, progressive autoimmune disease.
I don't know if the kratom will interfere with the Ns ability to do what I want it to.
 
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summers

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Nov 4, 2020
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Yeah, but you weren't intentionally attempting to kill yourself. You were only seeking to get high. SI may become a factor when you load your syringe with enough H that you KNOW will kill you when you inject it.
But if you're using H to od, you can get high first. Shoot a little, take the edge off, then go for it. Seems like that would lessen the SI to some extent.
 
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again_noidea

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Apr 22, 2021
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do you think an od is possible when i boof it - of course i would ramp up the dosage.
 
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NearlyIrrelevantCake

The Cake Is A Lie
Aug 12, 2021
1,718
Fentanyl is my plan. I could get heroin easier/cheaper, but fentanyl is much, much deadlier.

Terrified of needles and won't inject, so I'll be snorting. With no opiate tolerance, ROA won't matter much.
 
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summers

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Fentanyl is my plan. I could get heroin easier/cheaper, but fentanyl is much, much deadlier.

Terrified of needles and won't inject, so I'll be snorting. With no opiate tolerance, ROA won't matter much.
F is not deadlier, it's pretty much exactly the same as H, you just need less. And F is cheaper than H. Hope you weren't thinking of crushing pills - you need what the dealers use to cut H. That's a synthetic power - never made into pill form.
 
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NearlyIrrelevantCake

The Cake Is A Lie
Aug 12, 2021
1,718
F is not deadlier, it's pretty much exactly the same as H, you just need less. And F is cheaper than H. Hope you weren't thinking of crushing pills - you need what the dealers use to cut H. That's a synthetic power - never made into pill form.
Yes, I'm buying the powder straight from a dealer. I have fentanyl tests to make sure it is what they say it is, too.
 
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summers

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Yes, I'm buying the powder straight from a dealer. I have fentanyl tests to make sure it is what they say it is, too.
One thing with those tests, they don't test purity or potency. They are available for almost all drugs, but only show presence. If you do wind up getting powder f, please pm me.
 

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