青い青い海となれ

青い青い海となれ

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Apr 23, 2022
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I'm about to buy a power generator
( a 4 Stroke Silenced Petrol Inverter Power Generator for Outdoor Camping)
on Amazon and in the descriptions says specifically "Generator exhaust contains toxic carbon monoxide, which you can't see or smell. Breathing carbon monoxide can kill you within minutes"
I'm not lucid at all those days, but of course i already knew abt carbon monoxide lethality
Now I'm asking for help, my "house" is very little it's about 10 square meters divided in two rooms
i have just a door but it doesn't have airtight fixtures
If i close the door and activate the generator inside it will work or i need to make some work for airtight fixture on the door?
pls don't insult my stupidity, I'm asking someone smarter, so I know if i gotta do works or not
 
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Praestat_Mori

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You should seal your door properly with duct tape (or similar).

The generator will also produce other emissions that may not be pleasant. Have you considered using charcoal instead of a generator?
 
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Yaffle

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Nov 9, 2023
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You should seal your door properly with duct tape (or similar).

The generator will also produce other emissions that may not be pleasant. Have you considered using charcoal instead of a generator?
100% this. Exhaust fumes are very unpleasant
 
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the old man

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Dec 23, 2023
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Yes it should work providing you do the work to make the space as airtight as possible, as others have said it will produce an amount of other gasses NOx being one that is unpleasant , co is lighter than air so elevate yourself as high as possible and don't forget the ear buds/ headphones as the noise even from a suitcase generator after a while will make you want to turn it off .
 
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I'm about to buy a power generator
( a 4 Stroke Silenced Petrol Inverter Power Generator for Outdoor Camping)
on Amazon and in the descriptions says specifically "Generator exhaust contains toxic carbon monoxide, which you can't see or smell. Breathing carbon monoxide can kill you within minutes"
I'm not lucid at all those days, but of course i already knew abt carbon monoxide lethality
Now I'm asking for help, my "house" is very little it's about 10 square meters divided in two rooms
i have just a door but it doesn't have airtight fixtures
If i close the door and activate the generator inside it will work or i need to make some work for airtight fixture on the door?
pls don't insult my stupidity, I'm asking someone smarter, so I know if i gotta do works or not
t should work but I would seal in case.
 
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青い青い海となれ

青い青い海となれ

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Apr 23, 2022
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You should seal your door properly with duct tape (or similar).

The generator will also produce other emissions that may not be pleasant. Have you considered using charcoal instead of a generator?
how? do you mean burn it and take it inside so monoxide carbonate will kill me ? better than the generator but how i should do it ? burning it inside house i don't think the smoke is a better death than generator exhaust

thank you for advice tho, ill search it here on the forum
 
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Praestat_Mori

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May 21, 2023
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You don't burn it in the house! After the coal is glowing there's no smoke. Here's a good guide:


And this is the megathread:

 
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Nov 16, 2023
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co is lighter than air so elevate yourself as high as possible
Density of CO shouldn't play a big role, since it's nearly the same as of nitrogen. There is no noticeable difference in the N2/O2 proportions at floors and ceilings, since the gases diffuse due to thermal molecular movement. RMS speed of N2 and CO molecules is nearly 500 m/s at room temperatures, and fastest N2/CO molecules move at 1 km/s. Gravity forces can't compete with diffusion, unless molecular masses or temperatures of the gases differ significantly.
 
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the old man

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Dec 23, 2023
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Not going to argue with this , it's far to intense for me, I just know co alarms are fitted to the ceiling not the floor for a reason 🤔
 
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Nov 16, 2023
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Products of burning move upwards due to much higher temperature. After cooling, they will diffuse with air anyway.
 
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Praestat_Mori

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Density of CO shouldn't play a big role, since it's nearly the same as of nitrogen. There is no noticeable difference in the N2/O2 proportions at floors and ceilings, since the gases diffuse due to thermal molecular movement. RMS speed of N2 and CO molecules is nearly 500 m/s at room temperatures, and fastest N2/CO molecules move at 1 km/s. Gravity forces can't compete with diffusion, unless molecular masses or temperatures of the gases differ significantly.
Obviously there is. CO is a little bit lighter than air and people who reported they failed said that they were laying on their room floors. I remember a case when someone reported this and when they stood up walked out of the room and passed out immediately. Imo that is proof enough that there was definitely a higher concentration in the upper parts of the room than just 20-30cm above the floor.
 
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CO is a little bit lighter than air
Air consists mostly of nitrogen and oxygen. Nitrogen molecules are lighter than oxygen molecules, and nevertheless these gases form a nearly homogeneous mixture within a room. 12​C16​O molecules have exactly the same mass as 14​N14​N molecules, so carbon monoxide should be able to form homogeneous mixtures with oxygen equally good. CO moves upwards from a hot source mainly because of rising streams of heated air which can easily elevate even "heavy" CO2.
 

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