Discussion Hell after suicide

[Hopeless_brat]

Why do I want to end my life,so I can rest forever, just like in my sleep, but all these religious textbook say you will end up will hell where you will be tortured and you will not die from torture , this makes me hate god so much, does anyone else believes this.

 

[October112021]

No.

 

[Smart No More]

I don't think hell is actually mentioned in the bible. It may be a concept dreamt up by Christianity. Heaven is biblical but I think hell is a kind of addon that gained traction and stuck.

 

[October112021]

I don't think hell is actually mentioned in the bible. It may be a concept dreamt up by Christianity. Heaven is biblical but I think hell is a kind of addon that gained traction and stuck.

It's definitely mentioned in the New Testament. The Old had a much different take on the afterlife - everyone, everyone, goes to Sheol, a kind of shadowy netherworld that sucks but which isn't a place of torment per se. Hell was introduced into the Bible via the Greek Hades.

 

[Why Me?]

Why do I want to end my life,so I can rest forever, just like in my sleep, but all these religious textbook say you will end up will hell where you will be tortured and you will not die from torture , this makes me hate god so much, does anyone else believes this.

I used to believe this for the majority of my life until after 40 years I am faced with the reality that I've clearly been scammed by religion. The bible also talks about how liers, fornicators, hypocrites, and etc will go to hell but everybody ignores that for their own benefit. Most people are not suicidal so they demonize suicide because it's something they don't believe they would ever do, but when it comes to the things they enjoy, apparently they will still go to Heaven even if the bible says otherwise.

I do believe the spiritual realm exists, because I experienced paranormal activity before, but trying to use Christianity to figure it all out & make sense of it, only led me to even more disaster. However, what I experienced always made the other side even more scarier for me.

At this point, the need for me to escape the evil of this world, and my suffering is greater than any fear, so I'm willing to take my chances by CBTing, and hoping that I will just end up in eternal nothingness, and there will be nothing scary to encounter. I'm done trying to figure things out, I'm thinking there is no god, and if there is one, I don't know what kind of character it could possibly have, but I'm not getting good vibes about it after how I've seen extremely evil people get their way in this life. I just want peace.

If there is a hell, it would make absolutely no sense for me to be there, unless everybody else is going too, or God just doesn't like me, and if he doesn't like me, hey, I tried everything, except being as evil as the people he seems to love. So I rather believe there is no god, there is no hell, and I will just die (shut down).

 

[Mofreeko]

Heaven and Hell is a very human invention. People want their consciousness to last forever and they also want "evil" people to be punished. Hell as a concept serves to keep people in line and loyal to their religious group and to give them a sense of superiority by excluding all the non believers. It's pretty much gatekeeping the afterlife through fear. "You have to do what we tell you to do and live your life the way we tell you to or you will burn for all eternity! Oh btw Jesus is all loving and all forgiving!" It doesn't make any sense. When your brain dies, your consciousness is lost and whether you're the most depraved murderer to ever live or the kindest saint to ever live, death is equal and we all go to the void.

 

[lifeisadream]

Personally, I don't believe there is a hell. Perhaps the concept of hell is to prevent people from ctb to keep them trapped in a "living hell".

 

[Looking4Answers]

As far as i understood it only catholicism outright said suicides go to hell.

But then i'll throw back at you, how much stuff do we do in modern times which is "against the bible"

Not to mention the bible is man made....kings and other important people throughout history have decided what would be included or not

 

[Darkover]

hell's just an imaginary place created by man to scare people into doing what they want

 

[FuneralCry]

There is no actual evidence of their being a hell after this life. I personally believe all religion and afterlife theories to be fictional. There is no point to fearing death as after all it's inevitable for us all, our fate as humans is to die and be forgotten about. I strongly believe that when we die, we cease to exist and that is it for us, we won't even be aware that we are dead. The true hell is this life, I mean how could it not be. We live in a world filled with endless suffering and cruelty with no limit as to how bad life can get. The existence of life really is so horrifying, I believe death to be freedom.

 

[Smart No More]

Think about the upkeep costs of hell lol. Its just not viable imho.

 

[gimzero]

In heaven it will be so boring.

 

[Squalo]

the only hell is this planet; with all the terrible things happening in this world, a possible afterlife can only be better.

 

[chundryshire]

Heaven and Hell is a very human invention. People want their consciousness to last forever and they also want "evil" people to be punished. Hell as a concept serves to keep people in line and loyal to their religious group and to give them a sense of superiority by excluding all the non believers. It's pretty much gatekeeping the afterlife through fear. "You have to do what we tell you to do and live your life the way we tell you to or you will burn for all eternity! Oh btw Jesus is all loving and all forgiving!" It doesn't make any sense. When your brain dies, your consciousness is lost and whether you're the most depraved murderer to ever live or the kindest saint to ever live, death is equal and we all go to the void.

agree w this so much. the concept of hell feels like a trap to keep wavering believers in. but, there's so little we know about consciousness that i can't bring myself to be certain that it's void. i have always been agnostic for this reason, i think that the answer to what happens after death is unknown and possibly unknowable, and as such, to truly believe any one theory or religion as reality just doesnt make much sense to me.

 

[Forest Fire]

The possibility of going to hell is always in the back of my mind as a reason not to do it.
I wasn't brought up religious or anything like that, but i nearly died a few years ago and had a near death experience. This 'experience' finished with me telepathically communicating with a bright white orb which said that this place is what was waiting for me and did i want to stay now or go back. I instantly thought i wanted to go back and was back in the real world, looking at my lifeless body from a bird's eye view perspective for a few seconds, before finally re-entering my body.
Given the state i was in before i had this experience it is totally possible that this was a hallucination and i'm not trying to persuade anyone here that it was real. But at the time it was as real as me writing out this message now. Several years on from it i would honestly say i don't know if it was real are not and both options seem just as likely.
One thing i've learnt in my life though is that even when i think that my situation is as bad as it can get, it can always get much worse. For me to finally get the guts to end this misery and jump, only to end up in hell for eternity, seems like something that would happen to me.

 

[StrangeAndDeath]

I don't think I believe in it. But if it exists, I won't be surprised. After all, there seems to always be a worse after the worst. Just like @Forest Fire said

 

[DreamEnd]

The possibility of going to hell is always in the back of my mind as a reason not to do it.
I wasn't brought up religious or anything like that, but i nearly died a few years ago and had a near death experience. This 'experience' finished with me telepathically communicating with a bright white orb which said that this place is what was waiting for me and did i want to stay now or go back. I instantly thought i wanted to go back and was back in the real world, looking at my lifeless body from a bird's eye view perspective for a few seconds, before finally re-entering my body.
Given the state i was in before i had this experience it is totally possible that this was a hallucination and i'm not trying to persuade anyone here that it was real. But at the time it was as real as me writing out this message now. Several years on from it i would honestly say i don't know if it was real are not and both options seem just as likely.
One thing i've learnt in my life though is that even when i think that my situation is as bad as it can get, it can always get much worse. For me to finally get the guts to end this misery and jump, only to end up in hell for eternity, seems like something that would happen to me.

was this place hell or heaven?

 

[Forest Fire]

was this place hell or heaven?

The landscape was volcanic so i'd assume hell.

 

[Why Me?]

One thing i've learnt in my life though is that even when i think that my situation is as bad as it can get, it can always get much worse. For me to finally get the guts to end this misery and jump, only to end up in hell for eternity, seems like something that would happen to me.

You've articulated this fear of mine very well, but the more reality hits me, the more this fear doesn't matter to me, and loses it's power. What's the alternative for me? Die suddenly possibly 20 years from now after more unnecessary suffering? If god is real, what is the purpose of that? For me there is no purpose if there is no real justice, or potential for real justice concerning what happened to me in life. It would just be more years of being a narcissistic supply for more devils who ruined my life. and that thought puts me in turmoil.