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Deathpositive

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Jan 14, 2026
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Wanna hear your opinions/theories guys like in yo opinion how were uncs like Albert Fish, Ramirez, Bundy and Dahmer were able to do what they did?

Whats even more fascinating in a way and just more enigmatic imo is the fact that they were lit average or even skinny built and yet were so fearless?

Like were they that because their painful and traumatic past or?
 
shiny_quill

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Jun 21, 2023
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Out of all of these, I'm only really familiar with the Albert Fish case, and I think him being able to do what he did (to little Grace Budd at least) was mostly due to the fact he was an elderly white man to be honest, and because a lot of people assume these sorts of horror stories only happen to other people, only to realize that, to other people, you are "other people" if that makes sense? As to why he did it, I personally believe that some people are more inclined to commit horrors than others, and they just need a "push" to become monsters. Doesn't mean they were "born that way", but it also doesn't mean they weren't, I think multiple factors are at play.
 
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AngelTear

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Oct 27, 2025
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I'm into true crime so I'll try to theorize a bit-
Albert Fish- horrible childhood (I think) also naturally an extreme sadomasochist (beyond the fetish sense of the word), Ramirez- terrible childhood and exposure to extreme porn and death from an early age, Bundy- from what I remember his childhood was relatively normal but he hit his head and changed as a young child, Dahmer- bad childhood from what I remember

Now let me be clear, just because someone had a bad childhood or a head injury resulting in personality changes IS NOT AN EXCUSE.

Their build has nothing to really do with anything. All these men were predators and preyed on people who they knew were weaker than them (women and children), basically they were as predators are, opportunistic. I don't see why their build is really all that fascinating? Anyone of any body type could do what they did. One does not have to be athletic to commit a heinous act.

Yeah their past definitely had shaped them into the monsters they turned out to be (and again, plenty of people who go through abuse don't end up doing what they did but it's still a possible outcome for someone to turn out as a monster) and possible other factors. You are shaped by your early childhood experiences into the adult you will become, it's way more nurture (or lack thereof) over nature it seems.
 
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