Discussion Has anyone here experienced a kind of Near Death Experience that was nothingness? Or unconsciousness? Or something similar?

[mr nobody]

Can you explain this comment to me? I legitimately don't understand which part is the answer.

He's saying that no one that is alive has experienced "cessation" of consciousness because their consciousness still exists if they're alive. From a temporary standpoint, yes. We've lost consciousness in our attempts.

 

[RayoSinSol]

Of course not. The question contains its own answer.

Fine. Semantics error. "Temporary cessation of consciousness." Better?

 

[Parsifal64]

Fine. Semantics error. "Temporary cessation of consciousness." Better?

Experience requires consciousness.

 

[RayoSinSol]

Experience requires consciousness.

Oh, so you're just trolling. Gotcha.

 

[Ky204]

I had a brain aneurysm when I was 18 and was clinically dead for 3 and a half minutes.
There wasn't really a 'light at the end of the tunnel' or any sign of an afterlife. However, there was a lot of imagery and colours flashing through my 'vision' and I couldn't make out what any of them meant. It's hard to explain if you haven't you experienced it tbh.
After that everything basically ceased to exist and I was in a state of nothingness.
It wasn't terrifying or painful, I just simply stopped existing, like I was nothing.
The best way to describe it was finally being at peace and being brought back was extremely disorienting, I didn't know who I was or what was happening during those moments.
I kinda preferred the empty void over my life now though, if that makes anyone feel better.
That can either be reassuring or terrifying to someone but depends on the person.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

I had a brain aneurysm when I was 18 and was clinically dead for 3 and a half minutes.
There wasn't really a 'light at the end of the tunnel' or any sign of an afterlife. However, there was a lot of imagery and colours flashing through my 'vision' and I couldn't make out what any of them meant. It's hard to explain if you haven't you experienced it tbh.
After that everything basically ceased to exist and I was in a state of nothingness.
It wasn't terrifying or painful, I just simply stopped existing, like I was nothing.
The best way to describe it was finally being at peace and being brought back was extremely disorienting, I didn't know who I was or what was happening during those moments.
I kinda preferred the empty void over my life now though, if that makes anyone feel better.
That can either be reassuring or terrifying to someone but depends on the person.

The problem I have with your description is you saying you "preffered the empty void". Did you experience any empty void? Because all the periods of unconsciousness I have ever experienced were total time lapses. There was no experience of "a void", there was simply a lapse.

 

[Ky204]

The problem I have with your description is you saying you "preffered the empty void". Did you experience any empty void? Because all the periods of unconsciousness I have ever experienced were total time lapses. There was no experience of "a void", there was simply a lapse.

When I say "prefer" I meant I preferred it to being conscious in the real world. Kinda like when someone says they prefer to be asleep rather than be awake. That's what it 'felt' like, just going to sleep. Maybe my descriptions don't make the most sense but idk how else to describe it.

 

[Loner]

Has anyone here experienced absolute cessation of consciousness after attempting death, or dying incidentally?

If so, can you describe it to me?

I didn't try to CTB but I collapsed in the shower the other day. When I woke up it felt like that time was deleted from my life. When you pass out it's like you don't exist. I should think that's what happens when you die.

 

[Una]

Nice video, and I wanted to comment on this earlier but I was a bit tired. Anyways he does contradict the experience multiple times. Maybe it's just how he is just telling his experience, and that is why. But based on what he said, I wouldn't put much faith in what he said is true.
Also, something to note is how he most likely was on serious drugs if the war part of the story is true. Like lets say he was clean before hand. Even now if you were to be shot up like that. You would be on serious drugs just for the pain. And at that time who knows if he was on drugs prior. Like look what LSD does.

Lastly, I wouldn't put much faith in anyone's version. The fact is, when you're dead you can't come back. Near death isn't death. That's like saying someone is about to eat ice cream for the first time, and they know what ice cream already is like. You only know what it is like once you had it. And once you had it, you can't unhad it.
For all we know death could be a pitch black nothing, death could be the end, death could be like the book says, this could be a simulation, or even death could be a gateway to an isekai (look it up). Because this is something we can't prove and we won't know anytime soon unless we die. It is best to assume all theories are both right and wrong. Pick what makes you the most happy, and run with it.

P.S. While it is hard to just distrust everything unless there is evidence. That guy, how do you know he was even in war? I'm not saying he lied, but I am saying is there is a lot of people who do lie.



You basically hit the nail on the head why most everyone doesn't remember or wasn't dreaming when they went under in surgery. Being under the knife doesn't = to what death will be like. Like it might be the same. But IMO it's stupid to just use that to assume.

I think it's best to look at it as we all are machines and our brain is a computer. Mess with a machine in 1 way or another, you can change a lot. Since all we are is our brain. Like who we are at this point. Then any slight change will change us. But lets assume we have a soul (and I believe we do since what is the difference between a live and dead person, and why can't you just bring someone back?). Since we know so little about this. Is the soul attached to our current self, or is our soul just here for the ride? How does it make us who we are? As I mention, you mess with the brain and you can change a person. So does the soul change too?
These are questions that should be asked, but I don't think they have answers without you dying or some taboo experiments.



Interesting video. Something I would like to see is some of the studies. I will take a look later to see if I can find some.
It's too bad they block people from commenting on the video. Sometimes someone has something that voids everything that is being said quickly. Like I have no idea if the study he was talking about used too small numbers, used greater numbers but didn't add people who they didn't like their reply, and so on.
I have heard and read some of the things he has talked about. I will even go as far as saying he didn't get deep enough. Like people having a out of body experience where they were able to read a sticky note on the opposite side of a light while people were trying to bring the person back. Things like this is also why I think we have a soul. But we clearly don't know what ways or how it interacts with us in this state.

Any case, that is interesting.

Update: I can't find the studies. I can't even find much about the person. Like there is only 1 or 2 points I found showing he is a doctor. And another look at the video, I notice he gives % of how people die, but not for after.

Hi there @RayoSinSol

As I said in my post the video was/is 'just another information', a drop in an endless type of similar information/videos. I have outlined my views in the short text I wrote above the video.

In any case - an interesting discussion that has yield some really interesting responses.

 

[laserfocus111]

Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences.

I've been doing some research on the topic. According to some studies about 5 to 10 pct of people who experienced cardiac arrest had NDEs as well. I thought that there would be at least someone on this forum who experienced something like that.

Seems like everyone here just had "nothingness". From my own literature review there were people who experienced the light /seeing dead relatives/someone saying your time isn't up yet /awareness of nothingness etc. I felt it would really suck if my attempt succeeded and I got stuck in an eternal awareness of nothingness, but judging from all your responses it probably is more like a dreamless sleep. I think this is such an important topic.

 

[Crushed_Innocence]

My first attempt was with c0 and I just blacked out. Like falling asleep. Unfortunatly, my SN kicked in while unconscious and i escaped the room. But yeah. Just like falling asleep.

 

[starleaf]

I kind of had an NDE/spiritual experience when I was in a dangerous situation, though I did not die. It was profound though. My abuser tried to kill me (I would prefer not to go into detail about the act itself) and I guess I was physically entering an in-between place towards death. It felt really bad. Like really bad, not the becoming close to death itself, but being brought there by hate. I asked for help in my head, just like from anything, and it didn't seem like help would come, but then it did, and I could feel a light. The light was pure love, and if I am being super honest here, the light was Jesus. I want to say I was not raised religious, and I am not religious now either. After this I tried to talk to a group of christians and it went really badly lol. My abuser had to back off, he could feel the light too, and I just felt this pure love and clarity like I have never felt in my whole life. Jesus was total love and compassion, to the degree where I only felt love and compassion for my abuser, there was no judgment from Jesus towards him, or anybody, just a total understanding of why he was the way he was. I could see that no matter how bad things get, no one is ever left behind or forgotten, they are always loved in a way that is beyond our comprehension. My abuser had to leave and I was safe. It was really nice too because I saw how I was actually doing really well as a person, and saw that my judgement of myself was not correct. Once I was safe it faded away. But yeah that was my experience. I believe Jesus is real, but I feel Jesus, and all spiritual beings, are a lot more than what we are taught by society and religion. I still struggle with trauma a lot, obviously because I am here. I feel it is super hard to speak to people about this too. Either people are religious and project certain judgments onto the experience, or people laugh or are super dismissive. A lot of other traumatic things happened after this also.


I do believe there is life after death, our spirit carries on. I have had other spiritual experiences that have helped me, and this is probably why I am still here, but yeah obviously I still struggle with a lot of trauma and pain.

 

[Kumachan]

Has anyone here experienced absolute cessation of consciousness after attempting death, or dying incidentally?

If so, can you describe it to me?

You "experience" this every night mate. But can you describe absence of experience? Your question is contradictory in itself

 

[mr nobody]

Yea you cannot experience nothingness. What we experience is the awareness of coming back to consciousness or right before we awake we may experience thoughts while still being unconscious.

The time lapse is the absence of any experience. There is nothing to remember.

 

[mr nobody]

Could you tell us more about your co experience? did you feel any pain ? How did they save you in the hospitaL ? And what method did you use. And your brain sure doesn't seem damaged as your reasoning is fine ( i agree with what you posed on this thread about the brain and death). Did you use charcoal or what method for co?

I think it's important to clarify there is no pain with methods such as SN and co. There is anti-suicide propaganda against these methods and others that might seep into this site even without people realizing they are just repeating falsehoods they heard somewhere else.

Personally , i see 2 people on this thread that seem to suggest co is painless. This is similar to what i've experienced with SN survivor stories .

sure, here's a thread I made about it with all the details:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/unsuccessful-carbon-monoxide-attempt.37482/#post-695442

I was extremely lucky to not suffer any long term damage. CO has the potential to cause severe brain damage as it deprives your body of oxygen very quickly.The entire process was painless and I passed our pretty quickly with no memory up until I woke up in the hospital. They treated me with 100% oxygen.

 

[a.h]

I had nde after my throat swell shut. I felt euphoric, peacefull and serene from the start. I had no panic because I could breath and get little air for 15-20min but didn't get much air which caused me to get high euphoria from the start. Eventually everything went black in my eyes for maybe 1-3 seconds and I was knocked out.

 

[laserfocus111]

The general consensus on this thread seems to be that NDEs are more like a period of time where nothing was experienced, and then you wake up.. In contrast with all the descriptions I see online involving angels /lights/talk about how this isn't your time yet etc.

Your experiences make me more confident of my future attempt. Thank you.

 

[Mr Myemna]

Come to think of it I had an ex girlfriend who tried to hang herself, I'm sure she was pronounced dead for a short short time and she told me that there was no "vivid dreams", or "a light at the end of the tunnel". She compared it to sleep where she was completely unaware of anything.

Also I think some people follow a religion because it gives them some reassurance that there is life after death.

i think i had something similar with my attempt with hanging as well, i think it's different from other forms of unconsciousness like sleeping or being knocked out in the sense that it's liberating unconsciousness, i didn't feel a thing, it was empty and peaceful. that may be because hanging cuts the brain's access to blood which means it entirely ceases to generate our consciousness

or maybe the parts that register memories are turned off i dunno

it's also weird that my brain tries to feel that gap with some sort of experience, which i find off considering it ceases to functioned at that moment

 

[Unsure and Useless]

I used to pass out frequently, and it's a pretty odd, yet unique, experience. (I won't get into it since it is irrelevant to the conversation.) The best way to describe it is seeing one's memory like a piece of string. The first and third section of the string exist and are tied together, but part B, the moment you lost consciousness as well as the portion between the first and third section in this comparison, is cut out.

Once you lose consciousness, that's it. You cease to be.

Likewise, gaining consciousness is jarring since you're doing one thing and then suddenly you're somewhere else.