Has anyone considered VSED?

[AR3S_]

I am currently looking for a source as to obtain SN in the UK, but it's harder than I originally anticipated..

I've had plenty ideas as to CTB, when I was younger I, without thinking or doing any research, have tried to slit my wrists, however I was sadly found before the light went out.
I since then have played around with the idea of a hood, jumping, but eventually landed on SN to be my preferred method.

However if all else fails, I always figured VSED might be a way to CTB, however I've not seen anyone post about it. What are your thoughts?

 

[dggtscccvfd]

I am currently looking for a source as to obtain SN in the UK, but it's harder than I originally anticipated..

I've had plenty ideas as to CTB, when I was younger I, without thinking or doing any research, have tried to slit my wrists, however I was sadly found before the light went out.
I since then have played around with the idea of a hood, jumping, but eventually landed on SN to be my preferred method.

However if all else fails, I always figured VSED might be a way to CTB, however I've not seen anyone post about it. What are your thoughts?

VSED is near impossible. After a few days of not drinking you'll literally be licking your own sweat. The number of people who succeed with this method is minimal, although they include Noa Pothoven and Bobby Sands. Whilst I think it's unlikely you'll be able to pull it off, I would have a great respect for you if you manage it.

 

[Dark Window]

Dreadful way to die.

 

[DoubleUp8]

What is VSED? This is 1st time I have heard that 1.

 

[dggtscccvfd]

What is VSED? This is 1st time I have heard that 1.

Voluntarily stopping eating and drinking!

 

[DoubleUp8]

Oh. It's a hunger strike. I am actually planning to die that way. I've never heard it called VSED. Would like to know exactly what that acronym is. What the letters stand for. I have done a handful of hunger strikes. I went 6 days without eating or drinking anything which is supposed to be about as long as a person is able to. You have to be in the right mindset to do it. The hardest part is not drinking anything. You really have to be determined and best to isolate yourself because people will try to get you to eat and tempt you with food. Difficult but not impossible.

 

[LunarLight]

I've never heard it called VSED. Would like to know exactly what that acronym is. What the letters stand for.

Voluntarily Stopping Eating and Drinking...

 

[DoubleUp8]

Am actually planning to do it soon. The cost of everything going up with food and everything else, it really won't be entirely voluntary. The beauty of hunger strikes is that in the United States it's constitutionally protected form of protest and worldwide is globally recognized as a human right. If you really want to do it, no one has a right to stop you. It's not considered suicide legally.

 

[dggtscccvfd]

Am actually planning to do it soon. The cost of everything going up with food and everything else, it really won't be entirely voluntary. The beauty of hunger strikes is that in the United States it's constitutionally protected form of protest and worldwide is globally recognized as a human right. If you really want to do it, no one has a right to stop you. It's not considered suicide legally.

Good luck. I expect you'll fail, but it's worth a shot.

 

[Little_Suzy]

If I am already going to die, I intend to indulge in all the foods and drinks I desire. Going out F-E-D!

 

[Ash]

Once you get the search function, have a look for it. It's only really successful with hospice patients (ie terminally ill with already weakened bodies and on serious medication) and even they can take a very long time to die. Ordinarily healthy bodies do not give up very easily and unless you're extraordinarily determined or lost in a desert somewhere with no access to water or food or shelter or rescue, it's highly unlikely to succeed unless you lock yourself up in an empty room in an isolated house with no hope of being found.

(Edited for grammatical errors)

 

[Praestat_Mori]

No, it would need a lot of will power, you need to be alone. Is very difficult. There have been people trying this lately and they documented their journeys (use the search). They haven't succeeded. If you're serious about CTB you can check out the Suicide Resource Compilation.

 

[DoubleUp8]

Traditional hunger strikes usually don't involve not drinking anything. It's like a liquid diet. Gandhi did a few of them and he ate salt and drank lemon juice. People can survive a long time on the liquid diet, especially if they drink healthy stuff like fruit juice, milk and Gatorade. The woman in India named irom Sharmila has the longest hunger strike record. It was like 14 or 16 years and she's still alive and ended her hunger strike a few years ago. Not eating or drinking anything is technically called a dry hunger strike and a human is only supposed to survive 3-6 days. Depending on the individual but I did it for 6 days. Didn't eat or drink anything except for the 1st 2 days I had 1 cup of coffee. I read that drinking anything with either alcohol or caffeine is not supposed to hydrate you. So i don't know if that's completely true because I didn't die. 1st 2 days: 1 cup of coffee with sugar and powdered milk. After that nothing. But I did end up getting taken to a hospital against my will and was held down and forced iv feeding on me. This is actually a human rights violation. I tried to find an attorney to sue the hospital and police department and everyone involved but I couldn't find 1 who would take the case. This time I either have to do a better job of isolating myself or i have also considered going to Mexico to do it. Also considering fentanyl or severing an artery. I gotta do something soon. I'm in a lot of pain and suffering very badly. I appreciate this site where I can talk about how I feel without fear of being hauled away to some psych hospital.
What is F-E-D? Fentanyl?

 

[Ash]

Traditional hunger strikes usually don't involve not drinking anything. It's like a liquid diet. Gandhi did a few of them and he ate salt and drank lemon juice. People can survive a long time on the liquid diet, especially if they drink healthy stuff like fruit juice, milk and Gatorade. The woman in India named irom Sharmila has the longest hunger strike record. It was like 14 or 16 years and she's still alive and ended her hunger strike a few years ago. Not eating or drinking anything is technically called a dry hunger strike and a human is only supposed to survive 3-6 days. Depending on the individual but I did it for 6 days. Didn't eat or drink anything except for the 1st 2 days I had 1 cup of coffee. I read that drinking anything with either alcohol or caffeine is not supposed to hydrate you. So i don't know if that's completely true because I didn't die. 1st 2 days: 1 cup of coffee with sugar and powdered milk. After that nothing. But I did end up getting taken to a hospital against my will and was held down and forced iv feeding on me. This is actually a human rights violation. I tried to find an attorney to sue the hospital and police department and everyone involved but I couldn't find 1 who would take the case.

Hunger strikes are political acts, and although the person is ultimately prepared to sacrifice their life for the cause (or not, depending on how dedicated they are), the ultimate goal is not to commit suicide in the way the we might understand it on this website but rather to effect change.

Do not confuse this with terminally ill patients in hospices bringing an end to their painful disease, or otherwise physically healthy people attempting suicide. We're talking very different situations, which is why one is called VSED and the other is a hunger strike.

 

[Forveleth]

There are many VSED threads here documenting people's attempts. To date I don't think anyone has succeeded. VSED is a very slow (weeks), torturous way to go. You can easily be caught by people noticing you turning into a skeleton and you can do permanent, lasting damage. Not a recommended method.

 

[tvo]

The longest I have ever went without food and water was 4 days in the wilderness. On the 5th day it was unbearable, I started milking whatever liquids I could get from random plants and eating leaves . My own body was too heavy, I collapsed a couple of times but managed to walk to the nearest place where I could find tap water.

I only had a normal meal on the 6th day. With me, the hunger pangs were not that bad, it is the thirst that was just too much. Interestingly, it was very blissful to be alone in nature (the birds chirping, the wind, the stars at night etc.).

I don't know how people have managed to CTB this way.

 

[DoubleUp8]

I am trying to effect change. I just don't think I will be successful at that in America. I can be successful at dying for sure. But sometimes hunger strike can be very successful. I went on hunger strike 1 time protesting being cut off of morphine due to a failed drug test which was actually a false positive. I never took the drug they said I tested positive for. Hunger strike turned out to be very successful and lasted less than a day. Only a few hours. That's why I think drug testing shouldn't be allowed anywhere. Not just an intrusion on someone's rights and privacy but they simply are nowhere near accurate enough. I had 2 false positives out of not all that many tests in my life. I only was tested in that pain management program once every few months. I never was on parole or probation or had to do it for employment and 2 out of maybe 20 or so were wrong! I don't think they should be allowed anywhere but if they are that's nowhere near accurate enough

 

[lkjhgfdsa1]

Geen goed idee

 

[DoubleUp8]

It's interesting. If you frame it as a hunger strike it's a human right but if you say you're voluntarily stopping eating and drinking because you want to die it's not. And reading some of these posts + my own experience has me wondering about the accuracy of some of the medical texts and other stuff I read. 1 source said 3-6 days. Another said 6 days or less. People here have said they went longer and when I went 6 days with only 2 cups of coffee, I didn't feel great but I didn't feel like death was imminent either. They did say at the hospital that I was dangerously dehydrated but who knows? Maybe fentanyl is the way to go. But that could fail too and I would just be sick for days.

 

[leavingthesoultrap]

No, it is very difficult to execute and takes too long.

 

[ThisIsMe1357]

I once tried this method when I was younger.

I managed to not eat and drink anything for 7 days until police found me (because I was not home). The problem was nothing extraordinary happened during that week except for me being thirsty and thinking a lot about fruit juices. I did not feel weak, I did not faint, I could still walk for quite some time every day. I also did not cause myself any damage and I continued to function normally afterwards. Granted, this was during the winter period with snow, so temperatures were not high, and I was young and healthy, but still, nothing happened to me for a week, so this process must be nearly impossible to complete and be incredibly time-consuming.

 

[DoubleUp8]

So the texts that claim 6 days max are at best inaccurate? Seems right cuz when I went 6 days, I didn't feel great but didn't feel like I could die any minute either. Actually the 1st couple days were the hardest and after that I kinda got used to it.

 

[drunk kid catholic]

this one is almost impossible, i've tried it before

 

[Coconut blue]

i dont think ppl around you would allow you to carry it out all the way to the end

 

[Dusk till dawn]

I tried VSED, after a few days i was in a position where i was considering drinking my blood as a way to relieve my thirst without actually giving nutrients or anything useful to my body, i eventually failed

 

[notevenhere]

I'd need an ungodly amount of self control to not drink water if my body's dying of thirst. I get insane headaches from just dehydration.

When I used to starve myself because of my ED, I could like, just live off of water and nicotine, lol. Maybe I can do it if I keep my cigarettes. I quit smoking a long time ago, too.

 

[peaceabc2]

It's called dry fasting. People do up to 12 days for healing purposes..

 

[DolerDolerDoler]

I tried this to see how far I could go and outside of feeling weak asf I ended up nearly fainting after just urinating. was weird. google says its called Micturition syncope which can be caused by dehydration

 

[RoadBLOCK]

Where can I find the text that says it is a human right in the United Nations?

 

[Kali_Yuga13]

Just a few spoonful's of food and sips of liquid a say will keep a person alive for months. VSED requires total commitment. The people that VSED are usually in hospice and have palliative care. For a person not at end-of-life, being bedridden and sleeping for days on end will usually attract attention and interrupt the plan.