Method Hanging is probably very painful

[anagram]

I have seen one of your posts on strangulation. You mentioned that it's better to keep the shoelace at the top, but some research articles say it's faster to compress carotid arteries at the bottom of the neck, and it reduces the pressure on the trachea. I may try to full suspension and not yet sure where exactly i have to place the noose to reduce the compression of trachea before i loose consciousness

I regret making that thread because it's just much easier to hang. Strangulation is for desperate people with little options. Most people aren't disabled or that without option they become this desperate. Full suspension is a method where someone can't really pussy out. Once you do it, it's done. No backing out. Hanging is certain, a lot of factors are in your control and it's great if you know what your doing. It's also the most tried and tested method, popular and common around the world. Highly practical. VERY practical. I'm glad god designed the world in a way it's possible to quickly escape. Hanging is quick if done right.

Read the hanging megathread and evelyn lane threads. Currently learning knots. Good luck to you! Before my full suspension attempt, i will be sure to leave a bunch of notes on full suspension based on info I gathered.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Did you know if this unconsciousness really persist? When i compress my carotid arteries, i pass out in less then 5 seconds but wake up after about 20-40 seconds, being full conscious while the pressure is still applied. Even if i compress them further, nothing happens. Only if the pressure is released for few minutes and reapplied i lose consciousness again.

I do not know, but I hope so and it seems logical to me as I described above.
I was hanged full by a partner and she let me down as soon as I passed out, so I had no chance to experience what you did.
I assume you tried partial hanging and you are much younger than I am, that could make the difference.

 

[L'absent]

What you say has some basis in reality, but it contains inaccuracies. The internal carotid arteries (right and left) supply about 80% of the brain's blood flow and irrigate the cerebral cortex, which is responsible for consciousness. If they are completely compressed, the brain stops receiving oxygen, leading to loss of consciousness within 5-15 seconds. If pressure is maintained, consciousness cannot be restored, and brain damage becomes irreversible within minutes.
The vertebral arteries (right and left) supply blood to the brainstem, cerebellum, and posterior part of the brain, but they cannot sustain consciousness on their own because the cerebral cortex depends almost entirely on the carotid arteries. However, if carotid compression is partial or intermittent, a small amount of blood may still reach the brain, allowing for temporary regaining of consciousness before hypoxia becomes critical.
After loss of consciousness, involuntary movements may occur, which do not indicate a conscious attempt to escape but are automatic neurological responses due to progressive brain damage. These movements result from various physiological causes:
1. Anoxic convulsions: The lack of oxygen causes disorganized electrical activity in the brain, leading to sudden muscle jerks and spasms, similar to epileptic seizures.
2. Decorticate posturing: Occurs when the lesion affects the cerebral cortex, but the brainstem is still functioning. The upper limbs flex toward the chest, while the lower limbs remain extended.
3. Decerebrate posturing: Happens when damage extends to the brainstem, affecting the upper motor pathways. The arms and legs extend rigidly with internal rotation of the hands and feet. This posture indicates deeper brain damage compared to decorticate posturing.
4. Spinal reflexes: If the brainstem ceases to function but the spinal cord remains active, involuntary reflex movements may still occur, such as leg jerks or automatic limb contractions.
5. Gasping respiration (agonal breathing): Even though consciousness is lost, the brainstem can still send automatic signals to respiratory muscles, causing slow, irregular, and ineffective breaths before final respiratory arrest.



Death does not occur from classic suffocation, but rather from cerebral anoxia due to the cessation of blood flow to the brain. If carotid pressure is maintained, brain damage becomes irreversible, leading to death within minutes due to brain failure and the subsequent collapse of vital functions.

 

[Ligottian]

Some years ago, the son of couple who live near my parents' house was taken to a police station for suspected drunk driving. While being processed, he was placed in a holding room. It had a landline phone with a metal cord on the

 

[iamgood]

Some years ago, the son of couple who live near my parents' house was taken to a police station for suspected drunk driving. While being processed, he was placed in a holding room. It had a landline phone with a metal cord on the

You did not finish the sentence.

What you say has some basis in reality, but it contains inaccuracies. The internal carotid arteries (right and left) supply about 80% of the brain's blood flow and irrigate the cerebral cortex, which is responsible for consciousness. If they are completely compressed, the brain stops receiving oxygen, leading to loss of consciousness within 5-15 seconds. If pressure is maintained, consciousness cannot be restored, and brain damage becomes irreversible within minutes.
The vertebral arteries (right and left) supply blood to the brainstem, cerebellum, and posterior part of the brain, but they cannot sustain consciousness on their own because the cerebral cortex depends almost entirely on the carotid arteries. However, if carotid compression is partial or intermittent, a small amount of blood may still reach the brain, allowing for temporary regaining of consciousness before hypoxia becomes critical.
After loss of consciousness, involuntary movements may occur, which do not indicate a conscious attempt to escape but are automatic neurological responses due to progressive brain damage. These movements result from various physiological causes:
1. Anoxic convulsions: The lack of oxygen causes disorganized electrical activity in the brain, leading to sudden muscle jerks and spasms, similar to epileptic seizures.
2. Decorticate posturing: Occurs when the lesion affects the cerebral cortex, but the brainstem is still functioning. The upper limbs flex toward the chest, while the lower limbs remain extended.
3. Decerebrate posturing: Happens when damage extends to the brainstem, affecting the upper motor pathways. The arms and legs extend rigidly with internal rotation of the hands and feet. This posture indicates deeper brain damage compared to decorticate posturing.
4. Spinal reflexes: If the brainstem ceases to function but the spinal cord remains active, involuntary reflex movements may still occur, such as leg jerks or automatic limb contractions.
5. Gasping respiration (agonal breathing): Even though consciousness is lost, the brainstem can still send automatic signals to respiratory muscles, causing slow, irregular, and ineffective breaths before final respiratory arrest.



Death does not occur from classic suffocation, but rather from cerebral anoxia due to the cessation of blood flow to the brain. If carotid pressure is maintained, brain damage becomes irreversible, leading to death within minutes due to brain failure and the subsequent collapse of vital functions.

It seems you researched a lot. Which method are you going to use ?

What you say has some basis in reality, but it contains inaccuracies. The internal carotid arteries (right and left) supply about 80% of the brain's blood flow and irrigate the cerebral cortex, which is responsible for consciousness. If they are completely compressed, the brain stops receiving oxygen, leading to loss of consciousness within 5-15 seconds. If pressure is maintained, consciousness cannot be restored, and brain damage becomes irreversible within minutes.
The vertebral arteries (right and left) supply blood to the brainstem, cerebellum, and posterior part of the brain, but they cannot sustain consciousness on their own because the cerebral cortex depends almost entirely on the carotid arteries. However, if carotid compression is partial or intermittent, a small amount of blood may still reach the brain, allowing for temporary regaining of consciousness before hypoxia becomes critical.
After loss of consciousness, involuntary movements may occur, which do not indicate a conscious attempt to escape but are automatic neurological responses due to progressive brain damage. These movements result from various physiological causes:
1. Anoxic convulsions: The lack of oxygen causes disorganized electrical activity in the brain, leading to sudden muscle jerks and spasms, similar to epileptic seizures.
2. Decorticate posturing: Occurs when the lesion affects the cerebral cortex, but the brainstem is still functioning. The upper limbs flex toward the chest, while the lower limbs remain extended.
3. Decerebrate posturing: Happens when damage extends to the brainstem, affecting the upper motor pathways. The arms and legs extend rigidly with internal rotation of the hands and feet. This posture indicates deeper brain damage compared to decorticate posturing.
4. Spinal reflexes: If the brainstem ceases to function but the spinal cord remains active, involuntary reflex movements may still occur, such as leg jerks or automatic limb contractions.
5. Gasping respiration (agonal breathing): Even though consciousness is lost, the brainstem can still send automatic signals to respiratory muscles, causing slow, irregular, and ineffective breaths before final respiratory arrest.



Death does not occur from classic suffocation, but rather from cerebral anoxia due to the cessation of blood flow to the brain. If carotid pressure is maintained, brain damage becomes irreversible, leading to death within minutes due to brain failure and the subsequent collapse of vital functions.

I have seen about 20 videos on full hanging. In only two cases, it seems like they regained consciousness, but biologically it shouldn't happen. If you are interested, watch hanging video of korean / japanese streamer and another one from a deaf person. Especially, the streamer seems to regain consciousness. Do you know the reason ?

What you say has some basis in reality, but it contains inaccuracies. The internal carotid arteries (right and left) supply about 80% of the brain's blood flow and irrigate the cerebral cortex, which is responsible for consciousness. If they are completely compressed, the brain stops receiving oxygen, leading to loss of consciousness within 5-15 seconds. If pressure is maintained, consciousness cannot be restored, and brain damage becomes irreversible within minutes.
The vertebral arteries (right and left) supply blood to the brainstem, cerebellum, and posterior part of the brain, but they cannot sustain consciousness on their own because the cerebral cortex depends almost entirely on the carotid arteries. However, if carotid compression is partial or intermittent, a small amount of blood may still reach the brain, allowing for temporary regaining of consciousness before hypoxia becomes critical.
After loss of consciousness, involuntary movements may occur, which do not indicate a conscious attempt to escape but are automatic neurological responses due to progressive brain damage. These movements result from various physiological causes:
1. Anoxic convulsions: The lack of oxygen causes disorganized electrical activity in the brain, leading to sudden muscle jerks and spasms, similar to epileptic seizures.
2. Decorticate posturing: Occurs when the lesion affects the cerebral cortex, but the brainstem is still functioning. The upper limbs flex toward the chest, while the lower limbs remain extended.
3. Decerebrate posturing: Happens when damage extends to the brainstem, affecting the upper motor pathways. The arms and legs extend rigidly with internal rotation of the hands and feet. This posture indicates deeper brain damage compared to decorticate posturing.
4. Spinal reflexes: If the brainstem ceases to function but the spinal cord remains active, involuntary reflex movements may still occur, such as leg jerks or automatic limb contractions.
5. Gasping respiration (agonal breathing): Even though consciousness is lost, the brainstem can still send automatic signals to respiratory muscles, causing slow, irregular, and ineffective breaths before final respiratory arrest.



Death does not occur from classic suffocation, but rather from cerebral anoxia due to the cessation of blood flow to the brain. If carotid pressure is maintained, brain damage becomes irreversible, leading to death within minutes due to brain failure and the subsequent collapse of vital functions.

Also, with complete hanging, the amount of force is far higher than needed to compress the trachea, so it's obvious that the person will suffer from blocked trachea at least for the first 12 to 15 seconds until he loses consciousness. But, the main cause of the death seems to be due to cerebral hypoxia since it starts far earlier

What you say has some basis in reality, but it contains inaccuracies. The internal carotid arteries (right and left) supply about 80% of the brain's blood flow and irrigate the cerebral cortex, which is responsible for consciousness. If they are completely compressed, the brain stops receiving oxygen, leading to loss of consciousness within 5-15 seconds. If pressure is maintained, consciousness cannot be restored, and brain damage becomes irreversible within minutes.
The vertebral arteries (right and left) supply blood to the brainstem, cerebellum, and posterior part of the brain, but they cannot sustain consciousness on their own because the cerebral cortex depends almost entirely on the carotid arteries. However, if carotid compression is partial or intermittent, a small amount of blood may still reach the brain, allowing for temporary regaining of consciousness before hypoxia becomes critical.
After loss of consciousness, involuntary movements may occur, which do not indicate a conscious attempt to escape but are automatic neurological responses due to progressive brain damage. These movements result from various physiological causes:
1. Anoxic convulsions: The lack of oxygen causes disorganized electrical activity in the brain, leading to sudden muscle jerks and spasms, similar to epileptic seizures.
2. Decorticate posturing: Occurs when the lesion affects the cerebral cortex, but the brainstem is still functioning. The upper limbs flex toward the chest, while the lower limbs remain extended.
3. Decerebrate posturing: Happens when damage extends to the brainstem, affecting the upper motor pathways. The arms and legs extend rigidly with internal rotation of the hands and feet. This posture indicates deeper brain damage compared to decorticate posturing.
4. Spinal reflexes: If the brainstem ceases to function but the spinal cord remains active, involuntary reflex movements may still occur, such as leg jerks or automatic limb contractions.
5. Gasping respiration (agonal breathing): Even though consciousness is lost, the brainstem can still send automatic signals to respiratory muscles, causing slow, irregular, and ineffective breaths before final respiratory arrest.



Death does not occur from classic suffocation, but rather from cerebral anoxia due to the cessation of blood flow to the brain. If carotid pressure is maintained, brain damage becomes irreversible, leading to death within minutes due to brain failure and the subsequent collapse of vital functions.

i have also seen an Indian old man suffering from corona hanged himself. He was so chill, he just waited for the others to sleep. There are 4 people around him. It took about 6 to 10 seconds for him to lose consciousness. He didn't even flinch after about 15 seconds. That's the fastest hanging suicide I have seen

 

[yukiovos]

fter several seconds/minutes, there are seemingly purposeful movement of the arms to remove the knot from the neck

WOW! I DID NOT EXPECT TO FIND THIS POST TODAY!

i suspect this is exactly what happened to me after attempting partial hanging and passing out.
I can remember getting back consciousness, and being in a state that i would describe as physiological torture, I REMEMBER SCREAMING BUT THESE SCREAMS TURNED OUT TO BE HALLUCINATIONS MADE UP BY MY BRAIN AS AN ATTEMPT TO SAVE ME, it was if my brain entered "survival mode" and its like i was fighting for my life against a non-existent threat that was choking me to death, thats at least what my mind wanted me to think to save me.

*this screams turned out to be fake because i remember screaming louder than i ever could in the middle of the night which would have for sure awoken the people that live in the same house as me

if you have any questions or want to know more let me know because i never saw anyone talk about this until now.
my main takeaway from this experience was that i needed to apply more pressure before i passed out so this could have been prevented.

 

[divinemistress36]

You are right that consciousness is lost after a few seconds. However, the circulatory system of the brain is kind of special, since arterial blood can flow to any part of the brain, regardless of its origination. Even if its said that the veterbral arteries "only" supply certain parts of the brain with oxygen in, its blood can reach all other areas of the brain. Of course this isn't enough to support the energy demands of the brain for long, but still enough that even patients with carotid occlusion can survive for a unusal long time. The same is true if only one carotid artery is obstructed: the other one will compensate for that. My theory is that such compensation mechanism can potentially lead to a regain of consciousness.

Vertebral artery - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Since blood flow in the brain is rather "open", every artery terminating here can potentially support any part of the brain, regardless of its origin, but not for a long time



While they "normally" supply only certain parts of the brain, its blood can still reach every other area in the brain because of its special circulatory system. Im not sure if the vertebral arteries are really compressible to a degree that blood flow is sufficiently stopped, since they are protected by bone.

I had a brainstem stroke from a vertebral artery tear this is interesting

 

[fkyou]

WOW! I DID NOT EXPECT TO FIND THIS POST TODAY!

i suspect this is exactly what happened to me after attempting partial hanging and passing out.
I can remember getting back consciousness, and being in a state that i would describe as physiological torture, I REMEMBER SCREAMING BUT THESE SCREAMS TURNED OUT TO BE HALLUCINATIONS MADE UP BY MY BRAIN AS AN ATTEMPT TO SAVE ME, it was if my brain entered "survival mode" and its like i was fighting for my life against a non-existent threat that was choking me to death, thats at least what my mind wanted me to think to save me.

*this screams turned out to be fake because i remember screaming louder than i ever could in the middle of the night which would have for sure awoken the people that live in the same house as me

if you have any questions or want to know more let me know because i never saw anyone talk about this until now.
my main takeaway from this experience was that i needed to apply more pressure before i passed out so this could have been prevented.

What position did you use in your attempts?

 

[Ligottian]

Some years ago, the son of couple who live near my parents' house was taken to a police station for suspected drunk driving. While being processed, he was placed in a holding room. It had a landline phone with a metal cord on the

I did but it didn't post! The phone was on the wall and he hung himself with cord.

 

[yukiovos]

What position did you use in your attempts?

almost like sleeping on your back with 3 pillows (the best way i can describe it), with my head being angled at 90 degrees from the floor.

This is the only position that works consistently for me, and i start fading out immediately.

 

[Oneiron]

What you say has some basis in reality, but it contains inaccuracies. The internal carotid arteries (right and left) supply about 80% of the brain's blood flow and irrigate the cerebral cortex, which is responsible for consciousness. If they are completely compressed, the brain stops receiving oxygen, leading to loss of consciousness within 5-15 seconds. If pressure is maintained, consciousness cannot be restored, and brain damage becomes irreversible within minutes.
The vertebral arteries (right and left) supply blood to the brainstem, cerebellum, and posterior part of the brain, but they cannot sustain consciousness on their own because the cerebral cortex depends almost entirely on the carotid arteries. However, if carotid compression is partial or intermittent, a small amount of blood may still reach the brain, allowing for temporary regaining of consciousness before hypoxia becomes critical.
After loss of consciousness, involuntary movements may occur, which do not indicate a conscious attempt to escape but are automatic neurological responses due to progressive brain damage. These movements result from various physiological causes:
1. Anoxic convulsions: The lack of oxygen causes disorganized electrical activity in the brain, leading to sudden muscle jerks and spasms, similar to epileptic seizures.
2. Decorticate posturing: Occurs when the lesion affects the cerebral cortex, but the brainstem is still functioning. The upper limbs flex toward the chest, while the lower limbs remain extended.
3. Decerebrate posturing: Happens when damage extends to the brainstem, affecting the upper motor pathways. The arms and legs extend rigidly with internal rotation of the hands and feet. This posture indicates deeper brain damage compared to decorticate posturing.
4. Spinal reflexes: If the brainstem ceases to function but the spinal cord remains active, involuntary reflex movements may still occur, such as leg jerks or automatic limb contractions.
5. Gasping respiration (agonal breathing): Even though consciousness is lost, the brainstem can still send automatic signals to respiratory muscles, causing slow, irregular, and ineffective breaths before final respiratory arrest.



Death does not occur from classic suffocation, but rather from cerebral anoxia due to the cessation of blood flow to the brain. If carotid pressure is maintained, brain damage becomes irreversible, leading to death within minutes due to brain failure and the subsequent collapse of vital functions.

The reflexes you described refer to motor pathways that are unable to coordinate purposeful movements that are seen during rescue attemps from a hanged person. These are not simply spasms or simple behaviors like crawling, chewing or scratching that not requiry the cerebral cortex. Moving the arms to the rope and trying to lose it or pushing it up require activity in the cortex, which may indicate consciousness

 

[BlackMilk]

There's a scene in the Sopranos showing an extended hanging suicide that's always prevented me from considering that route.

 

[Valhala]

Hanging is neither simple nor painless, it just seems simple on superficial analysis. Countless things can go wrong, you can struggle on the rope and suffocate in agony which is not pleasant at all - I wouldn't experiment with that.

 

[dead dav]

I regret making that thread because it's just much easier to hang. Strangulation is for desperate people with little options. Most people aren't disabled or that without option they become this desperate. Full suspension is a method where someone can't really pussy out. Once you do it, it's done. No backing out. Hanging is certain, a lot of factors are in your control and it's great if you know what your doing. It's also the most tried and tested method, popular and common around the world. Highly practical. VERY practical. I'm glad god designed the world in a way it's possible to quickly escape. Hanging is quick if done right.

Read the hanging megathread and evelyn lane threads. Currently learning knots. Good luck to you! Before my full suspension attempt, i will be sure to leave a bunch of notes on full suspension based on info I gathered.

I agree full suspension is my chosen method I can't wait to be at peace

 

[anagram]

I agree full suspension is my chosen method I can't wait to be at peace

same. It's such a good feeling. Just learned bowline knot and noose knot. Might use water bowline knot it's a more secure version of bowline knot. Bowline knot is for the anchor and noose knot to tighten around neck.

I already have a footstool and a chosen anchor point. Rope i need to get. Im grateful to the info i found here i will release a compilation of info on full suspension before doing it

 

[dead dav]

same. It's such a good feeling. Just learned bowline knot and noose knot. Might use water bowline knot it's a more secure version of bowline knot. Bowline knot is for the anchor and noose knot to tighten around neck.

I already have a footstool and a chosen anchor point. Rope i need to get. Im grateful to the info i found here i will release a compilation of info on full suspension before doing it

I need to learn knots the simpler the better I too have a foot stool and a good place to hang I am going to secure my hands behind my back so I can't try to save myself also and I know a bit weird but want to be naked or just in boxers also I think a pillow.ow case over my head to make it less gruesome for my finder

Hanging is neither simple nor painless, it just seems simple on superficial analysis. Countless things can go wrong, you can struggle on the rope and suffocate in agony which is not pleasant at all - I wouldn't experiment with that.

I deserve to die in pain for what I have done

 

[la-vie-c-harrr]

Of course no one know how painful hanging is really until dead. This is just my idea.

What i found is that when compressing the carotid arteries (which should be the main goal in hanging), consciousness vanish in 1-10 seconds. Blood flow to the brain should stop and death result in a few minutes. However, there are other arteries burried in your spinal column that carry blood to your brain, which should be incompressible by conventional hanging. By keeping pressure only to the carotid arteries, one should regain consciousness after few minutes, because your brain adapte to use the blood from the veterbra arteries. This is also what i experience: after keeping pressure to the neck, i regain consciousness even when the pressure is still applied. Also in a lot of suicide videos you can see that even if a person gets unconsciousness from hanging (indicated by a loss in muscle tone and switching), after several seconds/minutes, there are seemingly purposeful movement of the arms to remove the knot from the neck, which could indicate that the person regained consciousness and is suffering a lot of pain, trying to rescue himself.

What are your thoughts?

it's pure and simple speculation. and even if it were true 5 minutes or 30 minutes of suffering to have eternal peace is nothing at all. just the earth is 4.54 billion years old if you really want to leave 30 minutes of suffering shouldn't stop you

 

[grapevoid]

I've seen that in a good majority of the videos I've seen of ctb by hanging, though that attempt lasts maybe 2 seconds tops before they seize. So IF your speculation is correct that there is some blood flow from other arteries and the brain in a final attempt at survival is able to signal this action, it's extremely short lived. I can't imagine you'd feel much pain with the amount of adrenaline your body would be producing at that point in the process. Also just speculation- but that's my take on it.
I'm not disagreeing, however, hanging looks extremely painful and traumatic imo all things considered, I'd still not consider this method for myself.

 

[hawkshorizon]

In my research, I viewed a number of videos showing people hanging themselves. They were all brutally gruesome.

The literature points out that if carried out properly, you lose consciousness within a few seconds after commencing to ctb via hanging. Great it you get it right, which from my own experience and the numerous accounts I've read on SaSu seems practically impossible.

 

[JesiBel]

In my research, I viewed a number of videos showing people hanging themselves. They were all brutally gruesome.

The literature points out that if carried out properly, you lose consciousness within a few seconds after commencing to ctb via hanging. Great it you get it right, which from my own experience and the numerous accounts I've read on SaSu seems practically impossible.

"Practically impossible"

- Most people here try partial hanging. With poor materials and anchor points (like a weak clothes rail, cables, shoe laces)

- They get scared and abort the procedure. This is not a "failure" of the method, but rather personal issues.

- They are not serious, perhaps it is a kind of "attention seeking" rather than actually trying to kill themselves.

As you said, there are countless videos showing people using the method (full suspension) and ending their lives. Images on search engines, forensic and autopsy reports, real-life cases from anywhere in the world. It's the cheapest, oldest and most accessible method, look up statistics on suicides and methods... do you need more evidence?

 

[hawkshorizon]

"Practically impossible"

- Most people here try partial hanging. With poor materials and anchor points (like a weak clothes rail, cables, shoe laces)

- They get scared and abort the procedure. This is not a "failure" of the method, but rather personal issues.

- They are not serious, perhaps it is a kind of "attention seeking" rather than actually trying to kill themselves.

As you said, there are countless videos showing people using the method (full suspension) and ending their lives. Images on search engines, forensic and autopsy reports, real-life cases from anywhere in the world. It's the cheapest, oldest and most accessible method, look up statistics on suicides and methods... do you need more evidence?

My intention was not dissuade or turn off anyone from this method. It is as you say an easily accessible system and utterly effective. I only point out that unless carried properly, it is a very painful and protracted death.

 

[29Forever]

I always get to the last second with partial before I black out and ease off, SI is such a pain. Tried to drink and do some benzos but didnt help. So looking into Sn instead