Hanging and variation of normal anatomy

[leot83]

Hello I realize this is possibly a medical question but I will ask for opinions anyway.

Imaging taken of my neck (I have health issues) shows that my carotid arteries are compressing my jugulars on both sides. I have been told this is a variation of normal, generally jugulars and carotid arteries are not as close.

I just wanted to know if this is likely to cause an issue when trying to hang and lose consciousness with carotid shutoff.

 

[JesiBel]

I don't see it as a problem to lose consciousness quickly.

When you hang yourself, both the carotid arteries and jugular veins will be compressed by your full weight. The pressure exerted and the ligature closing completely will force the rope deep into your neck.

It is essential to do the procedure correctly (the position of the ligature, the types of knots, a strong rope and anchor point..)

I'm curious, do you know the name of your medical condition?

 

[TheEmptyVoid]

Hello I realize this is possibly a medical question but I will ask for opinions anyway.

Imaging taken of my neck (I have health issues) shows that my carotid arteries are compressing my jugulars on both sides. I have been told this is a variation of normal, generally jugulars and carotid arteries are not as close.

I just wanted to know if this is likely to cause an issue when trying to hang and lose consciousness with carotid shutoff.

I always feel dizzy when I try full suspension with bedsheets, though I never get to the point of passing out that much, and I obviously had the stool below me every time that I can step on

 

[TheEmptyVoid]

I always feel dizzy when I try full suspension with bedsheets, though I never get to the point of passing out that much, and I obviously had the stool below me every time that I can step on

also I used a self-tightening ligature for it to work effectively, though bedsheets don't really tighten that easily due to the bedsheets texture

 

[leot83]

I don't see it as a problem to lose consciousness quickly.

When you hang yourself, both the carotid arteries and jugular veins will be compressed by your full weight. The pressure exerted and the ligature closing completely will force the rope deep into your neck.

It is essential to do the procedure correctly (the position of the ligature, the types of knots, a strong rope and anchor point..)

I'm curious, do you know the name of your medical condition?

Vascular eagle syndrome. Carotids are pressing jugular veins against c1 vertebra.

 

[JesiBel]

Vascular eagle syndrome. Carotids are pressing jugular veins against c1 vertebra.

Thank you, this is the first time I've heard of the condition.

I was reading some info and found this article, it even has a reference image:

"Stylogenic Jugular Vein Compression (SJVC) or Stylo-Atlantal Jugular Vein Compression occurs when the internal jugular vein is compressed as it passes between the styloid process and the first cervical vertebra (C1, Atlas).

SJVC is determined by the spatial relationship between the styloid process and nearby first cervical vertebra.

In SJVC, the styloid process and C1 form a claw-like structure, narrowing the space for the jugular vein and trapping it.

This mechanical obstruction prevents venous blood from flowing out of the brain, leading to potentially life-threatening complications."

"Unlike arteries, which deliver oxygen-rich blood to the brain, the jugular veins are the primary pathways for draining out deoxygenated blood. When this vein is compressed, the consequences can be severe, including:

• Venous congestion, leading to symptoms such as dizziness and pressure headaches.
• Venous ischemia, where inadequate drainage results in reduced oxygenation of brain tissues.
• Intracranial hypertension, caused by increased pressure within the skull due to stagnated blood flow."

I don't see this as a complication for the hanging method. You might even have a point in your favor (without wanting to be rude)

The ligature is placed under the jaw, near the hyoid bone, at the level of the third cervical vertebra (C3). To compress the carotid arteries where they are most accessible, and is the softest area of the neck.

I hope more users can reply to this thread.

 

[leot83]

It is causing me pulsatile tinnitus, one of the reasons I want to ctb.

 

[JesiBel]

It is causing me pulsatile tinnitus, one of the reasons I want to ctb.

I'm sorry to hear that. Is there no treatment option? Or surgery? To improve quality of life and symptoms.