StevieNixs

StevieNixs

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Nightmare ay.
 

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the U.K. is taking the express train straight to HELL and more disasters await us!
 
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Jan 5, 2020
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the U.K. is taking the express train straight to HELL and more disasters await us!
Dumb xenophobic, racist, populist rhetoric will always lead to self destructive consequences like this. My country disgusts me on so many levels.
 
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StevieNixs

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Dumb xenophobic, racist, populist rhetoric will always lead to self destructive consequences like this. My country disgusts me on so many levels.
I'm afraid I cannot disagree with you. Listening to one of those talk show radio shows this afternoon -Little Englanders exorcised that 5000 EU lorry and tanker drivers will be coming to work temporarily in the UK to help them out. The only questions they wanted to ask were "Where are these people going to live?" and "When are they going to return home?" An Eastern or Central European lorry driver phoned in to say how badly he was treated by his work colleagues.
 
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I'm afraid I cannot disagree with you. Listening to one of those talk show radio shows this afternoon -Little Englanders exorcised that 5000 EU lorry and tanker drivers will be coming to work temporarily in the UK to help them out. The only questions they wanted to ask were "Where are these people going to live?" and "When are they going to return home?" An Eastern or Central European lorry driver phoned in to say how badly he was treated by his work colleagues.
I've been hearing about this on various YouTube videos today too. Apparently the total number of visas (5000) will be approximately half of what a major supermarket alone, has said they will require to just barely manage.

You see, this is the problem, when you let idiots freely scapegoat certain people for problems either real or perceived, the problems don't go away, surprisingly enough.

It's like trying to cure a headache by having one of my kidneys removed. Then smugly taunting the doctor that tells me I've just harmed myself needlessly.
 
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I'm in Northern Ireland and my only hope is that people in England have had an epiphany and not vote for these people again. Vote for another party, it doesn't have to be labour, or don't vote at all and take their power away, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
 
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I'm in Northern Ireland and my only hope is that people in England have had an epiphany and not vote for these people again. Vote for another party, it doesn't have to be labour, or don't vote at all and take their power away, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
I doubt people here will have an epiphany sadly. We seem to be going through a bafflingly enthusiastic episode of self harm as a country. Doing obviously dumb things that are self defeating seems to be a matter of national pride right now. Also airing your narrow minded hateful views has become worryingly acceptable. It's like "V for Vendetta" is coming true!
 
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I doubt people here will have an epiphany sadly. We seem to be going through a bafflingly enthusiastic episode of self harm as a country. Doing obviously dumb things that are self defeating seems to be a matter of national pride right now. Also airing your narrow minded hateful views has become worryingly acceptable. It's like "V for Vendetta" is coming true!
1 of our 2 main parties in Northern Ireland believes homosexuality is a sin and should be illegal. They also believe in creationism. So I know all about hateful/dumb views! I'm a Protestant and most Protestants vote for them. Not me though!
They helped pushes Brexit through as well without caring about the consequences for us. But I got my Irish passport recently and I'm so happy I did. I think I'd be embarrassed to show my U.K. one if I went abroad!
I doubt people here will have an epiphany sadly. We seem to be going through a bafflingly enthusiastic episode of self harm as a country. Doing obviously dumb things that are self defeating seems to be a matter of national pride right now. Also airing your narrow minded hateful views has become worryingly acceptable. It's like "V for Vendetta" is coming true!
Do you think all of this will eventually be reversed if a new party gets in? I think the relationships with Europe have been ruined forever
 
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Flippy

Felis Sapien
Jan 5, 2020
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1 of our 2 main parties in Northern Ireland believes homosexuality is a sin and should be illegal. They also believe in creationism. So I know all about hateful/dumb views! I'm a Protestant and most Protestants vote for them. Not me though!
They helped pushes Brexit through as well without caring about the consequences for us. But I got my Irish passport recently and I'm so happy I did. I think I'd be embarrassed to show my U.K. one if I went abroad!

Do you think all of this will eventually be reversed if a new party gets in? I think the relationships with Europe have been ruined forever
I might also be able to get an EU passport but I think it might not be as simple as it used to be :-(

The DUP certainly did help push through Brexit. It was an opportunity for lots of dodgy people to smuggle their ambitious little plans in, under a camouflage of populism and racism.

Once the dust settles, there's going to be rage like no other in history when these people realise their "unicorn" isn't coming after all! That's why the Tories are doing their best to try and out law protests etc as the inevitable backlash that will occur when people start to realise that their Tory heroes, rode them like donkeys for their own selfish motives.

I think that the relationship with Europe can be repaired, but the UK will have to learn to cooperate and accept things it didn't have to last time around. Europe has had enough of our populist arrogance. They will let us join the single market eventually and the customs union, but they are going to have some very firm conditions. We will have to accept joining the Euro for example.

I think the only real possibility is that Labour can form an alliance with other parties to form a government. Then maybe we can start to crawl towards repairing some of the damage. What was destroyed in an instant can't be so rapidly put back together.

The only way people are going to truly understand the significance of leaving the EU is when it really starts to bite, hard.
 
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It just seems to get worse as each month passes. I absolutely detest this government.
 
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