Guilt after giving people ctb advice

[Unbelonging]

I've recently given a few people on this forum ctb advice and told them how to ctb. When I was doing it, I felt confident in my decision because I knew I was doing the right thing, since I was helping them know how to get rid of their suffering, and I wasn't forcing them to ctb or encouraging them in any way either, I was just giving them some advice and leaving the choice up to them. But I started feeling guilty later on because today, I viewed Tantacrul's video, and I viewed it as a pro-lifer just not understanding our forum and making gross generalizations about us, but then I looked at the comment section and people were calling those who give others ctb advice, murderers. I already have some guilt surrounding this topic because I've had suicide attempts blamed on me in the past. Anyway after seeing the comment section, I searched up if it was your fault if you gave someone ctb advice and they ctb'd, and everyone said yes. Now I'm starting to regret my actions, does anyone have advice and should I continue to give people ctb methods? Is it ethical?

 

[soonatpeace777888]

Yeah I'm pretty careful about doing this. I only like to tell people if their method is likely NOT to work instead of actually giving them methods that will because there are many other places on this site they can find that.

 

[befree]

Is it more ethical to see how people worldwide fail in suicide attempts because they had no information on proven methods ?
Is it right that these people end up as cripples in closed psychiatry ?

Suicide is a human right. As long as you don´t encourage people to commit suicide, you do nothing wrong.

You will find this in each of my posts in which I inform about methods:

This is just a general information. I do not encourage you to commit suicide and to use these methods. You act on your own responsibility.

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[Sweet Tart]

If you offered factual information, the only thing you did was to better enabling a person to make an informed decision. There is no way of knowing what they will do with that info. It seems like you may be projecting some emotions onto the interactions and that is worth exploring for you own sake. But we can never be responsible for the actions of another person.

 

[TransilvanianHunger]

Personally, I feel very uncomfortable with the idea of giving people advice or information on methods. If you look at my posting history, I mainly stick to the recovery forum because of that. I believe suicide is a human right, and I support people's choice to do what they want with their life. I'm also not against information being available. It's just a personal matter for me—giving people advice on how to commit suicide is not something that I feel OK/comfortable doing.

Regarding your own situation, I'd think that offering information and encouraging someone to kill themselves are two different things. Suicide is, ultimately, a personal choice, and as long as you didn't coerce someone into doing it, I don't see how their deaths are on you. That being said, I empathise greatly with the discomfort you're feeling, so my suggestion would be to not do it in the future.

There are people here who have no problem giving advice and don't feel guilty if someone succeeds with a method they discussed. If that's not you, that's fine, it doesn't have to be. We can be in favour of de-stigmatising the discussion of suicide and being pro-choice, while at the same time not wanting to get personally involved in someone's suicide plan if it's something that's going to end up causing you emotional distress.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I think there is no crime in showing someone "the door", as long as you aren't pushing them through "the door." All you are doing is providing educational and informative matter. The inherent right of choice is still preserved, as it always should be, and it's up to the individual on whether to go through any door that is shown to them.

 

[lachrymost]

No matter what you do, there is always going to be at least some subgroup of people who sincerely think you are evil for it. This used to bother me a lot. As it is, it still gets to me a little bit. Personally, I don't think educating people about methods so they can make an informed decision is wrong. I hope you can feel better about it soon.

 

[busybee]

Factual information and them making a decision aren't anything that puts you at fault.
Taking the last step is their own decision. Being informed mainly keeps them from permanent damage from a fail but what they do is their own choice ultimately. Additionally there is a search bar and they would find it anyway.

For those I don't feel comfortable with supplying information to I send pms and offer an ear to them. I am uncomfortable with people chosing ctb irrationally out of a spur of the moment thing like a breakup. When the post has a vibe of them wanting support rather than advice I won't supply information either.

 

[GasMonkey]

Free exchange of information and each one doing whatever the fuck they wanna do.

It is what it is.

 

[FuneralCry]

In my opinion it's best to stay away from any pro-life nonsense, pro-lifers lack any compassion and disgust me, I see it as being so repulsive being against the permanent relief and escape from all suffering.

And anyway what you did was just being compassionate, as that what the right to die is, it's showing compassion and awareness to all the suffering that exists here. Suicide could never be "wrong", we all have our right to cease existing and we all deserve the option of escaping from this existence in peace.