Discussion guaranteed quick death

[sleepy dog]

If I owned my own house, I might build a guillotine for my exit. Death would be certain if built correctly. Death would be quick. Death would be painless it seems. Would you use one?

 

[fettuccinee]

I wouldnt use one myself. Interesting way to go, but my biggest fear is beheading.

 

[Castles]

I would not! Ive heard the brain lives on and I'm not for that.

I've passed out twice by foolishly not planning and using worn out belts that have snapped mid hang. It takes about 10 seconds and the sensastion is euphoric when you just commit and accept, then it's nothing at all. Just peace.

 

[woxihuanni]

A guy in England did that. If I were not completely useless at building contraptions, I would, too.

 

[Itsalmosttime]

I would not! Ive heard the brain lives on and I'm not for that.

I've passed out twice by foolishly not planning and using worn out belts that have snapped mid hang. It takes about 10 seconds and the sensastion is euphoric when you just commit and accept, then it's nothing at all. Just peace.

Just curious, how long were you out before the belt snapped? I haven't been able to achieve this.

 

[lifeisbutadream]

I would not! Ive heard the brain lives on and I'm not for that.

I've passed out twice by foolishly not planning and using worn out belts that have snapped mid hang. It takes about 10 seconds and the sensastion is euphoric when you just commit and accept, then it's nothing at all. Just peace.

The brain might live on for a few seconds. An experiment was done on that years ago, with a guillotined man.

Were you doing full hanging or sitting down hanging? Few people seem to do drop hanging, the kind used in executions, which should be instant if properly done.

 

[ALittleBurden]

I was thinking about it too, I'd definitely use it if I could, even if my brain would stay alive for some moment, at least there would be no failure, no reviving, no going back.

 

[woxihuanni]

I was thinking about it too, I'd definitely use it if I could, even if my brain would stay alive for some moment, at least there would be no failure, no reviving, no going back.

Doctors would try to stitch you back together if they had the means. It's a good thing they're not all powerful. The fuckers need such a giant middle finger stabbing them right in the face.

 

[a_strange_day]

If I had no other choices but Gun-Jump-Hanging-Drowning etc and Guillotine then I would definitely go for the last one. I think it's one of the quickest and painless of all the "mechanical" methods and I don't believe in the brain lives on thing. But fortunately there are other solutions like N for a chicken like me.

 

[sleepy dog]

If the brain does live on, its probably for a few seconds and not torturous.
It would give what people want, quickness and certainty of death.

 

[a.h]

If I owned my own house, I might build a guillotine for my exit. Death would be certain if built correctly. Death would be quick. Death would be painless it seems. Would you use one?

If I owned my own house, I might build a guillotine for my exit. Death would be certain if built correctly. Death would be quick. Death would be painless it seems. Would you use one?

Wouldn't it be easier to install rope high with standard drop when it kills instantly. In USA the drop was 4-6 feet in executions when they were made hy hanging.

I rather hang. Actually rather choose gas. ;)

 

[R_N]

I don't see why not.

 

[TearyEyedQueen]

Sure but if I could get really drunk or high before.

 

[Sunset Limited]

You can combine it with a timer. A system that releases the guillotine blade with a timer. You fall asleep with benzos and you never wake up again. Also if can you find a general anesthetic (ketamine, thiopental sodium, etomidate, propofol, midazolam) this could be %100 peaceful. All you need is an IV)

Finding general anesthetic medication is easier than finding nembutal. You can probably get one of these drugs from drug dealers. The prices are cheap.

 

[dioxide]

I'm an engineer, and i am passionate of such things, i my mind i projected the build of a guilloutine and it requires a good physics and design work and a project.

Mechanically is all about a good woodwork, the main issue is to get a huge and well balanced blade, something like 50centimeters wide, half cut and sharped in a side, with proper thickness and weight. No item such this is there for sale, it must be properly build from a metal welding company.

After getting the blade, one month of enginered design is required.

Anyway, if not perfectly engineered in weight and speed, it can stop the course ripping just part of neck, causing an huge damage, most serious than many ctb fails!

Some collector purchased ancient working guilloutines for something like $100.000, so it is not a so easy design.

ANyway this youtubers build one and use them for clickbait, guillotining several stuff for entertain.
After watching all their videos and seeing the several failures, i relized than an homemade guilloutine is not definitively a good ctb method.

 

[WilliamKline]

If I owned my own house, I might build a guillotine for my exit. Death would be certain if built correctly. Death would be quick. Death would be painless it seems. Would you use one?

Only if I were a French emperor

 

[RainAndSadness]

If I was wealthy enough to own my own house, I could probably afford a trip to Mexico and buy my own nembutal. But then again: I already have my own nembutal. Does that mean I get a free house?

 

[Sweet emotion]

You know how to build one of those?

 

[a.n.kirillov]

You could also buy lab equipment and build a laboratory and synthesize N en masse, then send it out to all forum members on your ctb date and be gone before you could be prosecuted.

 

[Idorus]

I would probably choose it over N if 100% reliable but because of what @dioxide said about the youtube testers... I think Iwould rather prefer neck on the railroad as the more reliable beheading. I mean what can go wrong with that apart from SI?

 

[Flightlinek]

If I had a reliable one that was built and someone else would operate for me, I would definitely consider one. But... I don't want to be found nor do I want anyone to ever know what happened to me, and it would be pretty obvious what happened if I were found beheaded at the base of a guillotine, so that's out for me unless someone were willing to help.

About the brain living on thing, I absolutely believe that. What kills the brain is oxygen deprivation, and there would already be enough oxygenated blood in the head when the blade hit to keep it going for about 20-30 seconds, so there is no reason at all to think it wouldn't be awake and aware. But with the body (with all of its nerve receptors and the spinal cord that carries those signals) gone, I would think it would be a very peaceful last few seconds.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

I would probably choose it over N if 100% reliable but because of what @dioxide said about the youtube testers... I think Iwould rather prefer neck on the railroad as the more reliable beheading. I mean what can go wrong with that apart from SI?

What could go wrong is that you possibly destroy the live of an innocent person.

 

[Idorus]

What could go wrong is that you possibly destroy the live of an innocent person.

I ain't here for moral issues, it's hard enough to find a reliable instant painless death so I leave the moraility for another thread and up to those who want to discuss it. Stay to the method facts please.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

I ain't here for moral issues, it's hard enough to find a reliable instant painless death so I leave the moraility for another thread and up to those who want to discuss it. Stay to the method facts please.

Okay. If a fictional person were to consider killing themselves and were only concerned about reliability, they would, I think, have to come to the conclusion that full suspension hanging (after carefully familiarizing themselves with the art of tying knots) is the surest way to carry out their plans successfully. They could probably also try a small sample of N beforehand to see whether they could stomach it. Then they could also jump from sufficient height. But they would, after research, discard ctb by train as a method because there is a lot that can go wrong. This they could learn on certain websites that compile methods like lostallhope for example.

And no, I won't leave morality aside. One can't just leave morality aside, it doesn't work like that.

 

[Johnnythefox]

15th January 2003
Horror as man uses guillotine to commit suicide.

Horror as man uses guillotine to commit suicide

A shocked father discovered his son had beheaded himself with a home-made guillotine he had secretly erected in his bedroom.

www.thenorthernecho.co.uk

 

[a.n.kirillov]

You said 'instant' but train isn't necessarily instant; probably only gun is.

 

[Idorus]

But they would, after research, not seriously consider ctb by train because there is a lot that can go wrong.

What can go wrong with neck on the railroad? I'm genuinely curious....

You said 'instant' but train isn't necessarily instant; probably only gun is.

I think it's as instant as the guillotine, nah?

 

[a.n.kirillov]

What can go wrong with neck on the railroad? I'm genuinely curious....

Flinching? Deciding otherwise at the last moment or out of SI and not getting beheaded but still hit by the train? I don't know it seems to risky, aside from it still being hugely immoral imho.

I think it's as instant as the guillotine, nah?

Yeah but read up on the guillotine and you'll come to find out that it often took more than one attempt to sever the neck all the way. How are you going to do that all by yourself? You're gonna lie there and die the most miserable death imaginable, there is no margin for error.

 

[Idorus]

Flinching? Deciding otherwise at the last moment or out of SI and not getting beheaded but still hit by the train? I don't know it seems to risky,

But theoretically if there is no "moment of escape" ... I don't see how you can be blown away from the rail to end up somewhere next to it without limbs.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

I honestly wouldn't even consider these methods if N was an option. There are ways to work with the taste problem; one could taste it and then make something similar to it and experiment and get used to swallowing extremely bitter or unpleasant liquids. Way safer than the alternatives you've listed imo.

But theoretically if there is no "moment of escape" ... I don't see how you can be blown away from the rail to end up somewhere next to it without limbs.

It happens. Just research a bit. I've had a co-worker who used to clean up crime sites and he told me of ctb by train ones. They had to pick up the separate limbs that were scattered all over the place.
I just looked it up and lostallhope gives an average time till death of 17 minutes for ctb by train. I don't know whether that was a conscious move out of ethicak reasons or whether their source is trustworthy, but again, I wouldn't risk it.