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prototypian

prototypian

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The Golden Gate Bridge has a suicide barrier now. It has marine grade netting made of stainless steel 20 feet below the chime (railing on the outside edge of the pedestrian barrier) and the net extends 20 feet out.

I think if I took a wine way flight to San Francisco and a well made rope in a backpack with knots I could jog across looking like a conventional jogger with a small backpack; maybe even carry hiking poles to look like a fitness hiker. Pause at the highest part of the span, quickly tie the rope by looping it through a loop around the railing and lower myself hand over hand (I do many chin-ups and could practice this over a couple of months) to the net barrier. Then fall gracefully off the highest point at 200 feet and make sure I land on my back. The added fear of the police and media would hurry me along to jump and I'm pretty committed. I also feel good about showing the barrier really isn't a barrier if you're determined.
 
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sugarh1gh

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Make sure to climb up the barrier as fast as you can, there are lots of people and cars go by ( they might call cops or 911 on you)
 
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I would at least look into other bridges before going to the Golden Gate, this is a very high risk method with a lot of moving parts and you could be physically attacked by people trying to stop you. All it takes is banging your hand too hard on some metal to make it go numb and take longer to tie a knot, or some other little thing, and it could make seconds of difference for the worse. Judging by the fact you're flying out to SF, you probably have some leeway for movement, so I'm sure there's a better site somewhere.

That is assuming you're choosing GGB because of practicality alone. If you have more sentimental reasons, then what I said doesn't apply. Just practice and be careful.
 
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Worndown

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They put up fencing on one of our bridges too. Made an elegant design a little less attractive.
Those wishing to jump will need to move to another location.
Problem not solved.
 
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I think the barrier could be overcome but I would want to practice with what looks like similar materials ahead of time. I think the main purpose of the barrier is to give people who might be on the fence the chance to reconsider once they've hit the barrier. If you hit the barrier and you're still determined, and can get over it fast enough then it should still work. (But not all who have jumped have "succeeded.") I agree with others, suggesting pursuing other options.
 
dinosavr

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I wish they would use their heads finally and try and provide us with some actual help and not build the fences as if we were animals..
 
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Abyssal

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It's unlikely to work unless you are goal oriented as fuck and with jumping it's not gonna be like that. Plus, after taking a look in person, I could see myself struggling with the net and getting stuck like a dumbass. Holes small enough to hold ya but large enough to get a leg caught in. All sorts of clothes stuck to the net, gotta wonder if someone had to abandon them as they took the leap. Also there are constant pedestrians, some on bikes too. Even if you manage it you'll definitely traumatize a few people if not more.
 
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They put up fencing on one of our bridges too. Made an elegant design a little less attractive.
Those wishing to jump will need to move to another location.
Problem not solved.
How about a ladder?
It's unlikely to work unless you are goal oriented as fuck and with jumping it's not gonna be like that. Plus, after taking a look in person, I could see myself struggling with the net and getting stuck like a dumbass. Holes small enough to hold ya but large enough to get a leg caught in. All sorts of clothes stuck to the net, gotta wonder if someone had to abandon them as they took the leap. Also there are constant pedestrians, some on bikes too. Even if you manage it you'll definitely traumatize a few people if not more.
Has anyone ctb since the net was installed?
 
Dark Window

Dark Window

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I'd never risk jumping to land on water.
 
Worndown

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A ladder will be that red flag!
 
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mengbao

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Suicide barriers in buildings are horrifying. My government does not truly care either.
 
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Forveleth

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I'm curious. If you are already flying somewhere to jump off a bridge, why not fly to one without a suicide barrier and avoid the hassle?
 
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ThatStateOfMind

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Nov 13, 2021
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Unsure, sorry.
According to the Wikipedia, some have continued jumping after landing on the net. I imagine it would hurt, as that's literally how it's designed according tot eh wikipedia
"According to Denis Mulligan, general manager of the district "The net is designed not for a cushy landing but rather to inflict a painful, though nonlethal, injury on a jumper. While one function of the net is hindering anyone who does land on it from taking further action, the overriding aim is to deter people from jumping in the first place." "Suicidal people don't want to hurt themselves—they want to die," he said."
 
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prototypian

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Yes. There have been ones who jumped into the net and were caught or injured there and there have been more than one that moved to the edge of the net and jumped. There are more suicides there than reported.

For another thread, suicides are more prevalent than the anti suicide groups want to acknowledge. They want to acknowledge that there are suicides and it's terrible but they don't want to have major media attention focused because the topic does give people a sense that they have the freedom to take their own life. Same at Golden Gate Bridge. It's a suicide prevention and media / message control effort. Unlike almost every other event, suicide is something that can't be prosecuted and the perpetrator of the act can't be counseled, fined, disciplined or anything else after the act. So the way that the approach to talking about the act is to condemn it without being mean to the family and friends grieving and then reduce the coverage of the act so that it seems like a problem socially but isn't allowed to be seen as a trend or way to solve problems.

Then of course not offer real support or funding or ways to alleviate stress and pain.

So we have outcries of "build that net" (or wall or whatever) and then without data to track because the media and bridge have stopped tracking suicides to make it seem less like it is appealing to take your own life then a gleaming stainless steel net is draped along the edge of the bridge. And well intentioned suicidal ideation people like me without any further hope come up with ways to look like some sort of CrossFit wannabe jogger wearing a backpack and fancy running shoes and AirPods jogs across like I'm training for some endurance grunt thing. Then I loop a tubular mesh thing like a hammock is held from around the rail, toss it over and in one smooth practiced motion lower myself to the net and take a flying leap.

And if the authorities are reading this I just got every CrossFit goober with a backpack watched like a hawk.

So I change plans and I wear the 20 foot tubular mesh thing like a belt and I walk casually out there headphones on and sunglasses on and keep my gait so that I enjoy snapping photos and do the same thing timing it so that I'm between groups of people when I hit the center.

And now everyone with a non leather belt is gonna get extra security.

So I switch to an overly long complicated camera strap and then something else. Ha ha haha! I can't be stopped! And afterwards the authorities will all be angry because there is nothing you can do! It's like a permanent flipoff. Like you have been imprisoned by some guard and the big helicopter lands and you get in and fly away never to be seen, for the rest of that guards miserable life he is upset you beat him and got away. Same thing with the team who built the suicide net: "we want it to injure them, we don't want it to be a nice landing".

Ha ha ha! It still doesn't work! We still want to die and don't have any help!
 
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Linda

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The Golden Gate Bridge has a suicide barrier now. It has marine grade netting made of stainless steel 20 feet below the chime (railing on the outside edge of the pedestrian barrier) and the net extends 20 feet out.

I think if I took a wine way flight to San Francisco and a well made rope in a backpack with knots I could jog across looking like a conventional jogger with a small backpack; maybe even carry hiking poles to look like a fitness hiker. Pause at the highest part of the span, quickly tie the rope by looping it through a loop around the railing and lower myself hand over hand (I do many chin-ups and could practice this over a couple of months) to the net barrier. Then fall gracefully off the highest point at 200 feet and make sure I land on my back. The added fear of the police and media would hurry me along to jump and I'm pretty committed. I also feel good about showing the barrier really isn't a barrier if you're determined.
Why not just choose a different bridge?
 
Abyssal

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According to the Wikipedia, some have continued jumping after landing on the net. I imagine it would hurt, as that's literally how it's designed according tot eh wikipedia
"According to Denis Mulligan, general manager of the district "The net is designed not for a cushy landing but rather to inflict a painful, though nonlethal, injury on a jumper. While one function of the net is hindering anyone who does land on it from taking further action, the overriding aim is to deter people from jumping in the first place." "Suicidal people don't want to hurt themselves—they want to die," he said."
That last part irks me. Instead of helping us the goal is to harm us into submission.
 
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Neowise

Neowise

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Oct 7, 2020
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I mean, this might be a stupid question, but how is a suicide net supposed to work? Why don't you just jump on the net, crawl to the edge and drop down into the water from there? Or if it really is designed to hurt you, why don't you use a rope ladder to climb down to the net - 20 feet isn't that much - and then proceed to jump?
 
ferrie

ferrie

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May 19, 2024
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I mean, this might be a stupid question, but how is a suicide net supposed to work? Why don't you just jump on the net, crawl to the edge and drop down into the water from there? Or if it really is designed to hurt you, why don't you use a rope ladder to climb down to the net - 20 feet isn't that much - and then proceed to jump?
The idea behind it is that hitting the net is enough of a shock, physically and mentally, that most people won't be able to overcome SI a second time to jump again
 
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Neowise

Neowise

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The idea behind it is that hitting the net is enough of a shock, physically and mentally, that most people won't be able to overcome SI a second time to jump again
But what about a rope ladder? Deploy it, climb down 20 feet and jump down from the net?
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no_tomorrow

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May 25, 2024
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Amazon sells a 25-foot retractable ladder that looks like it could easily fasten over the golden gate bridge rail. seems study enough for a quick descent also

"Hausse Retractable 3 Story Fire Escape Ladder, 25 Feet"

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ferrie

ferrie

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May 19, 2024
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But what about a rope ladder? Deploy it, climb down 20 feet and jump down from the net?
woody-provazovy-zebrik-do-50-kg_0.jpg
Theoretically possible, depends on how quickly you can do this whole process as it will definitely get the cops called
 
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ThatStateOfMind

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Nov 13, 2021
953
That last part irks me. Instead of helping us the goal is to harm us into submission.
Yeah me too, my stomach kinda turned when I read that. It doesn't even really work, it said there's been some who it's deterred but others continue with jumping
 
poilala1

poilala1

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Apr 23, 2024
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It's true that added fear of police or media can hurry you along and aid you in jumping. It helps over-ride SI. Know that from experience.
 
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red24

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Unrelated, but anyway: is it sure to die if you land on water? Is Golden Gate's high suicide rate related to the strength of its underwater currents, and, following this idea, does the Marmara sea have strong underwater currents? I am thinking of the Istanbul bridge over Bosphorus. Is closer to me than San Fr.
 
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