Method Going to try CO method again in my home

[GodChallengesMe]

Planning to burn charcoal again, hopefully will succeed this time. Last and my only attempt was with questionable quality briquettes and in a poorly sealed bathroom with cracks on walls. I used 2.5 kg of briquettes that fully covered the large Weber chimney starter, so 2.5 kg is the limit I can burn at a time unless I get another chimney starter to burn 5 kg simultaneously.

I can get either lump or briquettes from Weber but unsure which one to choose. Briquettes burn longer but lump charcoal has higher CO content. I'm going to use a small room intended for storage of various crap. The room is about 6 cubic meters in volume so it's an ideal place to CTB with CO. It has only one small window that can be thoroughly sealed with a couple of large plastic bags.

I don't have a meter and won't be getting one since its useless unless you get the expensive equipment that measures up to 10k ppm.

When I tried to CTB in a bathroom, the CO didn't build up rapidly so I waited for an hour sitting there exhausted but didn't fall asleep nevertheless. I felt dizziness and my mind started to lose judgement after about 30 mins so had I remained there and fell asleep, it might have worked in a couple of hours, who knows. I abandoned the attempt mainly cause I feared that it wouldn't finish me off and I would wake up with severe body damage. I didn't take any drug or alcohol, otherwise I would fall asleep quickly after entering there.

I can buy metoclopramide for very cheap in my country. Do you think it's a good idea to take it for CO method or is it unnecessary? What about sleeping pills or sedatives? Are they unnecessary too? I want to make sure that I won't vomit during the process and won't wake up until I'm done.

Once again, there are conflicting info regarding lump vs briquettes on this website. Some people recommend briquettes due to its longer burning time but some state that lump is better due to purity. One of the member here used briquettes in a tent and succeeded. She used Weber briquettes AFAIK. Is there a documented case on this forum where someone used lump charcoal and succeeded? I don't want to fail this time cause CO is not a game as you know it. It can have devastating consequences if it fails and one ends up severely poisoned.

Looking for constructive feedback.

 

[darksouls]

godspeed

 

[LeavingEarly]

So what were the main reasons the first attempt failed?

 

[GodChallengesMe]

1. Quality of the charcoal was questionable. It was briquettes and most likely had cheap additives. They smelled terribly and burned my throat even though I completely burned it off and smoke was no longer emitting when I took it inside a bathroom.
2. The bathroom, although about 7 cubic meters in volume, has many cracks and crevices on walls and ceiling so the concentration of CO was not getting dense enough to reach lethal levels quickly.
3. I was nervous that it couldn't work since it took almost an hour to make me disoriented but even then I couldn't fall asleep despite being very sleepy even before entering the bathroom.
4. I think that had I taken sedatives and fall asleep quickly, it should have worked overnight. The briquettes burn at least 3 hours if not more so the CO concentration would have reached a steady state for many hours.

I don't know if lump is better than quality briquettes. They don't burn long enough and what if it stops emitting CO too early before the concentration reaches steady state to work? I only know one verified case here on SaSu and she used Weber briquettes in a tent. It worked for her. I don't know if 2.5 kg lump would be enough cause I can't burn more than that since I have only one large chimney starter. Moreover, burning 5 kg will make the little room too hot and unbearable to stay inside.

 

[J&L383]

I don't believe any drugs need to be added to this. Meto, no, since there's no ingestion of a drug that could cause vomiting. Sleeping pills / alcohol, possibly. But the effects of the CO is largely independent of the actions of those. And as you alluded to earlier, it would be undesirable to wake up with brain damage, having fallen asleep during a partial success. Focus on getting the CO high enough quick enough.

 

[GodChallengesMe]

I don't believe any drugs need to be added to this. Meto, no, since there's no ingestion of a drug that could cause vomiting. Sleeping pills / alcohol, possibly. But the effects of the CO is largely independent of the actions of those. And as you alluded to earlier, it would be undesirable to wake up with brain damage, having fallen asleep during a partial success. Focus on getting the CO high enough quick enough.

The problem is even if I perfectly time the job to align with my natural sleeping cycle, anxiety after entering the space is too strong to just close your eyes and fall asleep. Using sleeping aids should help with this IMO.

Regarding metoclopramide, I know it's unnecessary with this method but since it costs 2 dollars in my country and can be bought without prescription, I thought it would be an extra security step to take it just in case to prevent vomiting during the whole process.

What about eating? Is it a good idea to fast 24 hours before the act? I think doing this with empty bowels would be better to avoid unwanted things like gases or vomiting.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I think you may be the same person, I'm not sure as I talk with many people, but I think I said it before that if this method is done correctly, you should go unconsciousness in no more than 2 minutes. Don't sit around for an hour waiting to go unconscious. If you're not unconscious after 2 minutes, just abort the attempt and fix what's wrong. Too much risk of neurological damage sitting around breathing in lower levels for extended periods. It's not worth it.

 

[Warriorsfan]

Way to go locked n loaded.
Total praise for helping Godchallengesme.