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Hmm...now that you mention this, I agree, if there was an option to create a universe in which suffering would be experienced by sentient beings, I would not take it. But if I had to, or it was possible to build a paradise, or multiple, in which one could voluntary exit whenever they wanted to, I would choose that option instead.
I find this a great question and quite challenging
I would hopefully be a better person if I was "playing God or Gods practical or actual"
Try not to send people to eternal torture I don't agree with that personally.
I think/hope lots of people, including me, wouldn't send others to eternal torture if we were "playing God" either. But I do wonder what our subconsciousness would decide.
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Keep things the same, but put Earth in the fucking star wars universe or if im really sick and depraved I would have them placed in the WH40K universe!!!!!!!!!!!
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Keep things the same, but put Earth in the fucking star wars universe or if im really sick and depraved I would have them placed in the WH40K universe!!!!!!!!!!!
I would be appalled by any notion of becoming or applying powers of a god, as I believe this would lend oneself to being like the Demiurge. That is, hubris and flawed ersatz omnipotence polluting an otherwise pure and ideal cosmos.
Practically speaking I would institute a horizontal system where there is no overarching control stemming from myself, but rather a confederacy of smaller worlds. The best I can describe it is like a pocket multiverse: everyone has a personal realm they are master over, where reality and imagination meet. If so chosen, they can leave and visit others who allow them access to their world or congregate in a kind of hub with established protocol.
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Yeah sure thing man, basically its a scifi dark fantasy centered around a horrible galaxy consumed by endless war, humanity is a bunch of xenophobic power hungry militarist religious zealots who control the largest territory in the mikly way galaxg by deploying massive ridiculous overpowered weapons and really beefy space marines against several other factions that also have ridiculous weaponry/creatures as well too! Basically its a massive branded ip universe where anything can kill you and theres a lot of dead bodies towering 15 feet high that covers the entire planet while the friggin battle is still going on! WH40K is the most metal and the most majestic scifi fantasy universe i had ever known about, 1st heard about it from the RTS game "Dawn of War", great game, they dont make them like they used to now.
hi everyone, I hope you're taking care and doing ok.
I was watching this YouTube series "Power Corrupts" by DarkMatter2525.
The premise: one teenager named Yahweh is taking one of his exams. This is in the future with more advanced technology, so the particular exam Yahweh takes is testing one's true ability to lead by putting each tester in a simulation where they are the god i.e. ultimate controller of a universe.
If you were put in a simulation that gave you total control, how would you shape/create the universe?
Personally what I would do is separate governments and turn them into labs. Meaning turn government into a technology. Things don't work without a separation of powers.
I think consciousness and self awareness are major problems. The forced pro-mortalist perspective of many efilists I've encountered dissuades me from efilism, though. Ideologically, efilism supports benign species-wide exit stratagies. But humans just aren't (majority action) benign animals. I don't have faith in us to carry out any wide-scale interventions benignly. What is your particular efilist perspective?
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I'm not sure what I would do as a god but one thing I would achieve is to give humans the ability to use an autopilot mode where you could somehow sync your life skills and duties to be done automatically and suppress the ability to feel physical or emotional pain throughout the entire process.
You can even program it to act a certain way to deal with customers or a family gathering you don't want to experience.
And a law in all countries allowing employees regardless of work place or company to use it 24/7.
Our real consciousness can either observe the entire thing or go sleep and come back into control anytime we desire.
I think consciousness and self awareness are major problems. The forced pro-mortalist perspective of many efilists I've encountered dissuades me from efilism, though. Ideologically, efilism supports benign species-wide exit stratagies. But humans just aren't (majority action) benign animals. I don't have faith in us to carry out any wide-scale interventions benignly. What is your particular efilist perspective?
I see even non sentient life as being unacceptable, given there's the risk of it developing sentience (the very creator of life's problems, essentially a torture mechanism that fills it with endless problems to solve, endless needs and desires to be fulfilled, pain and reward mechanisms that urges life to risk its wellbeing in pursuit of such) Life simply serves no function in the universe - it fixes nothing except problems it causes itself.
I support planetary pro mortalism in theory. The chances of it wiping out all life, doing so relatively painlessly, and preventing abiogenesis afterward are the gigantic issues (also whether we should gamble on trying to travel the stars to wipe out other life if intergalactic travel is even possible). I see the suffering loaded impositions that life keeps forcing as being too egregious to be allowed to be carried out, and the perpetuation of such to strive towards creating a "utopic" state as not being worth the cost. (There can be no compensation for the hundreds of billions of feeling organisms that would be forced into existence to suffer along the way). An ideal red button scenario doesn't seem plausible (or even if there was, it's doubtful whether it would even be considered by civilization) so I guess I'm willing to settle for David Pearce's style of negative utilitarian transhumanism. But I'm wary of the potential horrors that greater technological power could unleash since if we can greater manipulate the dial of wellbeing to drastically reduce suffering, the ability to amplify suffering would be there as well. (Ex: Humanity being digitally uploaded into a virtual reality, with the potential for the simulation of unparalleled sensations, both good and bad. Security would be of the utmost importance, can it be guaranteed for however long humanity survives? Just think of how buggy our mobile devices are, or the potential for a rogue force to emerge to want to cause havoc - potentially out of sheer boredom)
But then there's the fundamental question of existence (Why are we heeeere) that I'd really want to be answered before pulling the plug on life, whether we should gamble on continuing civilization to find out, or if we could even do anything if we found out the answers (say if the universe is cyclical and we're doomed to have to suffer for eternity)
Meh. I'm a fence sitter of cosmic proportions. I'm just hoping a benevolent AI god emerges from the tech singularity and solves everything.
I don't know how I would shape the universe... but sometimes I fear that this scenario is somehow true and I already knew the answer before.
It would be messed up if I actually somehow created this nightmare bullshit universe... and made myself forget I was responsible... JUST so I could live in a giant playground with other little "me"s who were equally clueless.
Do you know why I think I would have made it this way? Because I was bored by things that are simple and easy. This is all hypothetical, of course. I don't actually know who created this universe. I don't even know if there is a "who" responsible. But if it was a "who"... They are clearly a sadistic genius.
I would like to see if selective breeding on humans could cull out impulses of greed, hatred, mean-spiritedness, etc. In other words i would try to "fix" human nature. This would be my first experiment.
If the first experiment fails (i.e. there's still great suffering in society), i would create a second colony, one composed entirely of clones (clones of the most compassionate, kind and empathetic human from the first experiment), and establish a belief that they are all extensions of the same consciousness. My rationale here is if people think they're the same entity, they'll on instinct help each other, or at least refrain from harming each other.
if the clone colony also fails then to hell with it, i'll just turn off the capacity to feel suffering, even if that means shutting off the capacity for happiness. Rendering a human into a "robot" is far more merciful than making it suffer.
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