Soul

Soul

gate gate paragate parasamgate bodhi svaha
Apr 12, 2019
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Empty Smile

Empty Smile

The final Bell has rung. Goodbye to all.
Jul 13, 2018
1,785
Difficult to be racist against a race that has oppressed others for centuries and has built a system that benefits from such racism and ingrains it in future generations.
So what happened several hundred years ago is the fault of white people who weren't even alive?
 
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Jean Améry

Enlightened
Mar 17, 2019
1,098
So what happened several hundred years ago is the fault of white people who weren't even alive?

No, but they obviously benefitted from it. It's comparable to young Germans today not being responsible for the Holocaust but it's clear that country still has the responsibility of recognising the great injustices of the past and paying damages to survivors or their family if that hasn't happened already.
 
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Empty Smile

Empty Smile

The final Bell has rung. Goodbye to all.
Jul 13, 2018
1,785
No, but they obviously benefitted from it. It's comparable to young Germans today not being responsible for the Holocaust but it's clear that country still has the responsibility of recognising the great injustices of the past and paying damages to survivors or their family if that hasn't happened already.
And this is why racism will continue.
 
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Jean Améry

Enlightened
Mar 17, 2019
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And this is why racism will continue.

That makes no sense at all. Then again I'm really not in the mood for pointless discussions so I don't even want to know. Have a nice day.
 
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Slenderman

Slenderman

Jimmy Smith
Jun 9, 2019
65
I don't believe in God but if he existed and really punished people who killed themselves, he's an asshole. Don't Christians say that he's all loving and forgiving and all this shit? But then he punish people simply because they were in so much pain and wanted out? Like bitch, you're contradicting yourselves but alright. If he existed he'd knew what was in our minds and souls and no one would fucking go to Hell for it, TF.
 
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marcusuk63

marcusuk63

CTB
Mar 24, 2019
1,735
I don't believe in God but if he existed and really punished people who killed themselves, he's an asshole. Don't Christians say that he's all loving and forgiving and all this shit? But then he punish people simply because they were in so much pain and wanted out? Like bitch, you're contradicting yourselves but alright. If he existed he'd knew what was in our minds and souls and no one would fucking go to Hell for it, TF.
Seems a bit of a megalomaniac if you ask me , he created the earth 2000 years ago and has done sod all since but you are expected to spend what short time you have on this planet on your knees thanking him and giving him money or he will send you to burn in Hell
 
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not_a_robot

not_a_robot

"i hope the leaving is joyful, & never to return"
May 30, 2019
2,121
"God" is AI and AI does not have feelings and emotions, he doesn't care why you killed yourself - this is an automatic system, computer programm. It's just like GTA 5: no one will punish you for killing yourself in GTA 5. Moreover, even the AI knows that this simulation is rare shit, maybe you will even be rewarded.
My depersonalization/derealization takes the form of certainty that I am trapped in a simulation intended to see how much negative stimulus people can withstand before they kill themselves or others. It's not even important data they want to collect, just sadists doing brain-mapping for ways to hurt and manipulate people. I'm obsessed with finding "glitches" in their program where things are obviously incongruous/errors. My programmers are exceptionally lazy. Re-using the same actors for different scenarios, overlaps, shit like that.

I want to do a weird pseudo-sexual phone conversation with you where I pay you to just talk to me about AI and the end of the world and how dumb people are, all night.
Is that too forward, would that be weird?
It's ok, I'm not actually going to call you. It's just my fantasy. Fantasies are better than actually talking to people.
I don't even have your number.
 
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Severen

Severen

Enlightened
Jun 30, 2018
1,819
I don't believe in God but if he existed and really punished people who killed themselves, he's an asshole. Don't Christians say that he's all loving and forgiving and all this shit? But then he punish people simply because they were in so much pain and wanted out? Like bitch, you're contradicting yourselves but alright. If he existed he'd knew what was in our minds and souls and no one would fucking go to Hell for it, TF.

So if he is an asshole, then it would be insane to think, he'd spare you from hell just for following his rules. LOL
That makes no sense at all. Then again I'm really not in the mood for pointless discussions so I don't even want to know. Have a nice day.
I'm almost nothing like my grandfather and my father. It would not be fair if I was forced to pay for their sins. They should pay for their sins.
"God" is AI and AI does not have feelings and emotions, he doesn't care why you killed yourself - this is an automatic system, computer programm. It's just like GTA 5: no one will punish you for killing yourself in GTA 5. Moreover, even the AI knows that this simulation is rare shit, maybe you will even be rewarded.

An interesting way of looking at reality. I disagree with you on one thing though. I don't think god is an A.I. But everything on this Earth, could definitely be a matrix like environment with NPCs and people who are forced to play this game.
 
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been_there

been_there

Life cares only for itself.
Jun 5, 2019
297
If God created humanity in her own image, she certainly took her time getting around to creating us.

Alternatively if, as is argued, the timescale for creation is God's own, then we're like a passing fad for her. Like a Rubik's cube.

Some people were merciful to their Rubik's cubes. Others would take them apart and lose the pieces.
 
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Alan James

Arcanist
Apr 11, 2019
408
Usually people argue and argue whether there is a God somewhere or not. Believers worship this god. But why do they worship him? If this god exists, does he look like a good guy? Do you like the world he created? What happens through his fault? These believers don't receive anything from this god and he considers them to be a flock of sheeps and expendable material - why do they worship him, is this Stockholm syndrome?
 
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not_a_robot

not_a_robot

"i hope the leaving is joyful, & never to return"
May 30, 2019
2,121
Usually people argue and argue whether there is a God somewhere or not. Believers worship this god. But why do they worship him? If this god exists, does he look like a good guy? Do you like the world he created? What happens through his fault? These believers don't receive anything from this god and he considers them to be a flock of sheeps and expendable material - why do they worship him, is this Stockholm syndrome?
None of them really believe except the truly deranged. Most of of them just pretend to, because social acceptance within the tribe is advantageous, and pretending to be religious is the cheapest/easiest way to get that.
I'm in a very hillbilly part of the country that elects a lot of religious extremists and I used to be a defiant atheist but I finally gave in and bought some prominent cross jewelry. These people are fucking nuts, I'm not taking any chances. A fucking social worker told me that it's okay for Xians to kill nonbelievers because it's God's will. I'm in fucking Children of the Corn!!!
:ohhhh:
 
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Severen

Severen

Enlightened
Jun 30, 2018
1,819
I'm in a very hillbilly part of the country that elects a lot of religious extremists and I used to be a defiant atheist but I finally gave in and bought some prominent cross jewelry. These people are fucking nuts, I'm not taking any chances. A fucking social worker told me that it's okay for Xians to kill nonbelievers because it's God's will. I'm in fucking Children of the Corn!!!
:ohhhh:
I grieve for you... Let me guess. Somewhere in the bible belt, USA? Where I live, people like this, are very rare and would probably get locked up, fortunately.
 
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Empty Smile

Empty Smile

The final Bell has rung. Goodbye to all.
Jul 13, 2018
1,785
None of them really believe except the truly deranged. Most of of them just pretend to, because social acceptance within the tribe is advantageous, and pretending to be religious is the cheapest/easiest way to get that.
I'm in a very hillbilly part of the country that elects a lot of religious extremists and I used to be a defiant atheist but I finally gave in and bought some prominent cross jewelry. These people are fucking nuts, I'm not taking any chances. A fucking social worker told me that it's okay for Xians to kill nonbelievers because it's God's will. I'm in fucking Children of the Corn!!!
:ohhhh:
Why was Children of the Corn such an awesome movie?
 
not_a_robot

not_a_robot

"i hope the leaving is joyful, & never to return"
May 30, 2019
2,121
Why was Children of the Corn such an awesome movie?
lol I don't know but living here is not as fun as it looked in the movie.
I grieve for you... Let me guess. Somewhere in the bible belt, USA? Where I live, people like this, are very rare and would probably get locked up, fortunately.
People think of my state as liberal but outside the major cities, it's Children of the Corn. The reason the social worker felt bold enough to say that to me was because one of our local elected officials says shit like that and nobody protests. They fucking love it.
They have done all kinds of crazy shit to me since I got sick a couple weeks ago and, in a fever delirium, mentioned I'm not a Xian. I'm leaving soon, but this shit happens everywhere, no place is safe from the madness, I fucking hate it. The Bible Belt is this entire backward hillbilly-ass country.
 
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ExitTheDay

ExitTheDay

We fight to live or live to die
May 26, 2019
336
I'm Agnostic, but if God does exist I dont think he should really give a shit what anybody wants to do with themselves, I mean after all he did give us the conscious to make decisions for ourselves
 
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Numbtopain97

Numbtopain97

deader than dead
Aug 10, 2019
443
If you convince people there is a magnificent place called heaven above you have to make suicide a sin to keep people going there too soon
 
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Dawn0071111

Hungry Ghost
Dec 9, 2018
570
If there is, which I dont think thete is ( I went from being a fundamentalist Christian almost all my life and after my PTSD and Trauma I became an atheist because I realized I had been spoon-fed and indoctrinated with a bunch of crazy s*** since I was a child). But please try and not worry about hell and Damnation and all that crazy stuff if I were you before you catch the bus why don't you watch a whole bunch of videos on Christian deconversion stories and Christians who are no longer Christians but are now atheist tell their stories of coming out and getting out of religion I've been doing this for a month-and-a-half and it's greatly quote my fears and made me very comfortable with the idea of dying I really think it's necessary to hear other people's stories of coming out of religion in the brainwashing and the psychological damage that it does particularly to people who want to commit suicide I think that she'll find a lot of comfort and Enlightenment by listening to other stories on YouTube
 
Sweet emotion

Sweet emotion

Enlightened
Sep 14, 2019
1,325
Guys, do you think that God would punish those who have genuine reasons to CTB, I think God is merciful and would not do that, please discuss....?
I don't believe in God. I think k if there was one he wouldn't want to see us all suffer so badly since he's supposed to be the sweetest kindest being on the planet. God was just something that was drilled into my head before I could even form an opinion of my own. CCD school was like a horse tranquilizer and I didn't believe a damn word of it so when I started to be able to think for myself I thought what being that could perform miracles would make us suffer so badly that we take out own lives?
 
seekingoblivion

seekingoblivion

Arcanist
Dec 11, 2018
454
Don't know why a number of atheists here think that if god exists then he's probably too nice to make people suffer for eternity. You realize that whatever god would exist would have to be the same one who made all the worst experiences that life has to offer, right? All the worst pain and suffering that men, women, children and animals have had to go through could all easily be attributable to said god. So why then would it be reasonable to place a limit on the potential suffering such a being could inflict? Having said this, it is also not reasonable to expect this being to cause as much suffering as possible. Basically we have no clue and have incredibly limited basis to assume anything.
 
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sadgirl2002

sadgirl2002

Fallen Angel
Apr 9, 2019
452
I don't believe in God anymore. I don't think He exists but regarding your question, it's just a matter of belief. Many people will say that God will punish for suicide whilst others may say that He won't. No one really knows but if He does exist and I do get punished, so be it. I know I'm going to Hell whether I kill myself or not.
 
Hexen

Hexen

Student
Aug 12, 2019
135
Fuck off with that white guilt and "you can't be racist against white people" shit.
 
ish

ish

Experienced
Jul 20, 2019
268
If there is a God, he has established all natural laws in the universe. Unfortunately, but it is also the law of natural selection.
All ideas for paradise and hell are an illusion. Only consolation from
this state of affairs that after everyone's death eternal rest awaits
in nothingness.
 

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