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chester

Experienced
Aug 1, 2024
257
I'm not sure whether this topic belongs to recovery, because I'm far from recovering. But I thought someone who'd like to recover might find it useful, assuming someone can help me with this.

I've got 500g (around 1lb) of SN. Don't ask me why so much, let's say I didn't have much choice in the matter, there was an opportunity, I seized it. Now I need to get rid of it. I've had it for a few months already, I know that if I were to use it, I wouldn't be posting now. My SI is too strong, as much as I hate being alive, I need to accept it.

Taking it to some chemical waste disposal facility is out of the question. I don't want to talk to anyone about it. I think it's understandable.

I could just throw it in the trash, but I've heard this might result in someone getting poisoned or hurt in some other way in the process. Even if they're unable to trace it back to me, I still wouldn't like to be responsible. I also know that it can cause some chemical reactions in the sewer. So, I came up with this:

Option 1: I live near a source of a little river, maybe more like a stream. I could just pour it there. I know it can cause harm to animals, but hopefully the constant flow of water will dilute it? I wouldn't like to read in the news about a biological disaster.

Option 2: There's a big river in my city, but it's hard to find any place where nobody would notice me. I imagine though that at this scale the environmental impact would be negligible. At least I hope so, but there's a high chance of being spotted, so I don't really want to try it unless I have to.

Option 3: I mentioned I've heard of a sewer related hazard, but if I dilute it enough, maybe it might not be that bad? The plan is:
1. Take a 1 gallon empty windshield washer fluid bottle
2. Pour all the SN in
3. Fill the bottle with water and shake
4. Pour a little into the toilet and flush
5. Repeat points 3 and 4 at least 10 times, each time pouring a bit more into the toilet before refilling the bottle with water.
6. During the last time the SN should be diluted enough to pour everything into the toilet.
7. Wait at least 12 hours between the flushes to avoid causing problems someone might notice. I don't even know if it makes sense, I just imagine this might increase the safety of the operation somehow, but I have to data to back it. It's a shot in the dark.

Any thoughts anyone? I've read so much about SN that I'm genuinely scared of the potential damage and harm I might cause. I wouldn't like to cause any. I'll gladly accept any other solution as long as it won't require human contact of any kind, personal or remote

Before anyone asks, no, I'm not going to send it to you, sorry.
 
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Hvergelmir

Arcanist
May 5, 2024
447
Taking it to some chemical waste disposal facility is out of the question. I don't want to talk to anyone about it. I think it's understandable.
If you want to dispose of it correctly, I think this is what you should do.
Just claim that you found this "container with some chemical", followed by a visual description of it, and ask what you should do with it.
 
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LifeQuitter

Experienced
Jul 11, 2024
263
The river sounds like the best option.
 
AuroraB

AuroraB

Experienced
Oct 20, 2024
233
take it to a hazmat collection site. say you found it while you were riding your bike or hiking on some random path and you don't know what it is. or gift it to someone here.
 
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yumeganai

yumeganai

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Sep 29, 2024
41
Give it to me LOL
 
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leavingsoonx

Headed to the other side
Sep 22, 2024
118
I'm not sure whether this topic belongs to recovery, because I'm far from recovering. But I thought someone who'd like to recover might find it useful, assuming someone can help me with this.

I've got 500g (around 1lb) of SN. Don't ask me why so much, let's say I didn't have much choice in the matter, there was an opportunity, I seized it. Now I need to get rid of it. I've had it for a few months already, I know that if I were to use it, I wouldn't be posting now. My SI is too strong, as much as I hate being alive, I need to accept it.

Taking it to some chemical waste disposal facility is out of the question. I don't want to talk to anyone about it. I think it's understandable.

I could just throw it in the trash, but I've heard this might result in someone getting poisoned or hurt in some other way in the process. Even if they're unable to trace it back to me, I still wouldn't like to be responsible. I also know that it can cause some chemical reactions in the sewer. So, I came up with this:

Option 1: I live near a source of a little river, maybe more like a stream. I could just pour it there. I know it can cause harm to animals, but hopefully the constant flow of water will dilute it? I wouldn't like to read in the news about a biological disaster.

Option 2: There's a big river in my city, but it's hard to find any place where nobody would notice me. I imagine though that at this scale the environmental impact would be negligible. At least I hope so, but there's a high chance of being spotted, so I don't really want to try it unless I have to.

Option 3: I mentioned I've heard of a sewer related hazard, but if I dilute it enough, maybe it might not be that bad? The plan is:
1. Take a 1 gallon empty windshield washer fluid bottle
2. Pour all the SN in
3. Fill the bottle with water and shake
4. Pour a little into the toilet and flush
5. Repeat points 3 and 4 at least 10 times, each time pouring a bit more into the toilet before refilling the bottle with water.
6. During the last time the SN should be diluted enough to pour everything into the toilet.
7. Wait at least 12 hours between the flushes to avoid causing problems someone might notice. I don't even know if it makes sense, I just imagine this might increase the safety of the operation somehow, but I have to data to back it. It's a shot in the dark.

Any thoughts anyone? I've read so much about SN that I'm genuinely scared of the potential damage and harm I might cause. I wouldn't like to cause any. I'll gladly accept any other solution as long as it won't require human contact of any kind, personal or remote

Before anyone asks, no, I'm not going to send it to you, sorry.
Taking this step to get rid of your SN is huge, I'm proud of you. Honestly, I would just dispose of it at a facility. I know you don't wanna talk to anyone but all the other options do worry me for the animals. Would you comfortable lying about it? You can simply say you have extra meat curing powder that you need to dispose of. They really won't care. But at the end of the day I understand why you don't want to talk about it.
 
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Young.Werther

Student
Apr 11, 2023
163
That's a big step, good luck with recovery!

Best thing to do is to give it to a facility set up for hazardous waste disposal but I understand why you don't want to do that (I wouldn't either). I'm not an expert but one thing you could do is make dilute solutions (I didn't find a specific number but probably at least 5 liters of water per gram of SN) and water plants with it. This would probably take a long time to fully get rid of it. Another option is to react it with a bunch of bleach (in an open area with safety equipment since I assume you can't use a fume hood). To oxidize to nitrate which is less toxic/harmful. I understand this in theory but would not be personally comfortable doing this in my backyard and it seems like the reaction could take a while and outside is not a good place to leave reactions unattended.

I would not pour it down the drain, it is a hazardous material and can cause environmental and safety hazards for people dealing with it.

Do you think you could drop it off in a safe location before hours or something? Like at a local university chemistry department or hazardous waste facility. You would need to make sure it's well stored (ie fully closed and sealed, possible put the main container in another one) as well as clearly labeled with the full chemical name, estimated purity, and quantity in grams. Then when people go to work they see it and deal with it appropriately and you don't interact with them.
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
12,186
This is the way how to safely dispose nitrite:

Potassium nitrite (or Sodium nitrite) can be oxidized to potassium nitrate with NaOCl solution at pH approx. 3-4. Reduction with amidosulfonic acid at pH=3 is also possible. This produces potassium hydrogen sulfate and nitrogen.

KNO2 + NaOCl --> KNO3 + NaCl
KNO2 + H2NSO3H --> KHSO4 + N2 + H2O
 
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singingcrow

singingcrow

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Jul 7, 2024
84
down the toilet?
 
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