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Due to my medical circumstances, I'm wondering if I may be able to get a legitimate prescription for meto (to use for the SN method), and if so, how I should go about convincing my doctor to prescribe it.

A couple days ago, I had to go to the emergency room due to severe vomiting, profuse sweating, and fast heartbeat. The doctors determined that I was extremely backed up and constipated, which had caused me to get sick. They gave me some treatment while I was in the ER to cleanse my colon and it worked a little bit, but since getting discharged, I have become constipated again. They prescribed me a mild stool softener which doesn't seem to be working. Before this incident, neither me nor my doctor knew about my digestive issues. Based on the symptoms I've been experiencing lately, I think I have very slow digestion/gastric emptying, maybe gastroparesis, which is one of the conditions that meto is supposed to treat (I read that it can help speed up gastric emptying and is often prescribed to patients with gastroparesis). Furthermore, meto is an antiemetic, which I could benefit from since I often get nausea and vomiting. A couple years ago, when I didn't have digestive issues, I was prescribed Ondansetron for nausea, but I can't take it now because one of its side effects is constipation. Meto doesn't have that side effect, so it would be a better antiemetic for me. Would it be possible for me to make a legitimate case to my doctor to prescribe me meto? If so, how should I go about it? I live in the US by the way.
 
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Bing that you have some underlying conditions, I would be honest with your physician and request an antiemetic. Have your doctor prescribe what is best for you, That way you'll have relief for your underlying symptoms.

There are many antiemetic medications besides metoclopramide.
 
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When I was having legitimate digestive issues and regular procedures as a result I had the same idea but didn't pull it off. They gave me prochlorperazine instead. It's a similar drug but can be bought otc in some places. You seem to have a legitimate case for an AE but I generally hear of meto being prescribed for nausea and sickness resulting from migraine headaches. Not sure why but that's what I was told to say to an online pharmacy when trying to purchases Meto. I was also told that it would help to say I'd tried it before whilst abroad one time doe those reasons, and that it worked. I guess to add some weight to the reason I was asking for a specific drug. I never went through with it in the end so don't know how well it would have worked but they seem like reasonable and logical advisements.
 
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There are concerns about meto- it can have really bad side effects in case you would survive an attempt- a person can literally be disabled from one dose due to the risk of getting tardive diskynesia, and there is a black box warning on meto due to this. Stan's guide lists five other antiemnitics which can be used, including domperidone. People are often able to get these medications prescribed by making an appointment though an online doctor's visit. The following link shows the risks of meto, including a video from youtube of a person who was basically disabled by taking meto:


https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-dangers-of-metocloperamide-reglan-thread.88790/
 
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Bing that you have some underlying conditions, I would be honest with your physician and request an antiemetic. Have your doctor prescribe what is best for you, That way you'll have relief for your underlying symptoms.

There are many antiemetic medications besides metoclopramide.
Thanks. Those other antiemetic medications would work for the SN method too right?
 
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I should mention that SN is considered problematic for people wbo struggle with nausea and sickness. Perhaps it's worth doing a little research to that end.
Stans Guide is respected and has good info on anti emetics
Thanks. Those other antiemetic medications would work for the SN method too right?
Check out stans guide for the list of AE's recommended for use.
 
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Stans Guide is respected and has good info on anti emetics
Though the fact that Stan's Guide recommends meto as the first choice antiemitic, considering the risks of this, shows it should probably have some updates. It also says propranolo is optional, but proporanolol seems to really increase the chances of success. STan's guide is a good starting point, but the poeaceful pill handbook also has a lot of detail on this method, and they recommend propranolol strongly.
 
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Though the fact that Stan's Guide recommends meto as the first choice antiemitic, considering the risks of this, shows it should probably have some updates. It also says propranolo is optional, but proporanolol seems to really increase the chances of success. STan's guide is a good starting point, but the poeaceful pill handbook also has a lot of detail on this method, and they recommend propranolol strongly.
Good to know. I imagine it must be very hard to get propranolol though?
 
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Good to know. I imagine it must be very hard to get propranolol though?
Not at all, it is a beta blocker and it is not a controlled substance, so it is easy to get, though it does need to be prescribed. There are various sites where you can make an online doctor's appointment and can often get a prescription called in within a day or two.
 
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Thanks. Those other antiemetic medications would work for the SN method too right?
No antiemetic will effect how Sodium Nitrite induces methemoglobinemia. Some antiemetics are stronger than others, and many work through different mechanisms.

Metoclopramide is a fairly potent antiemetic. While it is known to be effective, it does have interactions with many medications. There's no reason you can't mention it to your doctor, but don't be surprised if they reccomend one of the many other antiemetics out there.

There are a few websites that claim they will prescribe this after a brief consultation as an off-label prescription for headaches, but I cannot attest to the accuracy of these websites.
Good to know. I imagine it must be very hard to get propranolol though?
If you have any preexisting cardiac conditions, don't expect any physician who knows your medical history to write this prescription. You might be able to get this prescribed as an off-label remedy for anxiety, espically if you mention that anxiety causes you to feel tachycardic.

Your odds of getting propranolol are much higher with a practitioner who does not know your past medical history
 
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I would suggest to use Domperidone. There is a source for both drugs in the US.
 
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Though the fact that Stan's Guide recommends meto as the first choice antiemitic, considering the risks of this, shows it should probably have some updates. It also says propranolo is optional, but proporanolol seems to really increase the chances of success. STan's guide is a good starting point, but the poeaceful pill handbook also has a lot of detail on this method, and they recommend propranolol strongly.
I looked into it and I found an online pharmacy that sells it. Should I get the version with 10, 40, or 80 mg?
When I was having legitimate digestive issues and regular procedures as a result I had the same idea but didn't pull it off. They gave me prochlorperazine instead. It's a similar drug but can be bought otc in some places. You seem to have a legitimate case for an AE but I generally hear of meto being prescribed for nausea and sickness resulting from migraine headaches. Not sure why but that's what I was told to say to an online pharmacy when trying to purchases Meto. I was also told that it would help to say I'd tried it before whilst abroad one time doe those reasons, and that it worked. I guess to add some weight to the reason I was asking for a specific drug. I never went through with it in the end so don't know how well it would have worked but they seem like reasonable and logical advisements.
I found an online pharmacy that sells meto without prescription, but it does involve making a call. I know I could lie and say I've been having migraines, but what if they find that suspicious? (I'm guessing many other SaSu people have tried to get meto from there and probably made the same excuse). Should I just tell them the truth about my slowed digestion?
I'm also thinking about getting domperidone from there as well. Should I just say that many years ago I was prescribed ondansetron but it doesn't work for me anymore since it causes constipation, and that I'd prefer taking domperidone over meto for when I'm experiencing nausea that's unrelated to slow digestion?
As for propranolol, should I tell them I get tachycardic often due to anxiety?
 
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There are concerns about meto- it can have really bad side effects in case you would survive an attempt- a person can literally be disabled from one dose due to the risk of getting tardive diskynesia, and there is a black box warning on meto due to this. Stan's guide lists five other antiemnitics which can be used, including domperidone. People are often able to get these medications prescribed by making an appointment though an online doctor's visit. The following link shows the risks of meto, including a video from youtube of a person who was basically disabled by taking meto:


https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-dangers-of-metocloperamide-reglan-thread.88790/
Domperidone is same risk....
 
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I have been prescribed meto on and off for a few years now when i request it for nausea . and never have i had any issues with it , this is only my personal experience and opinion
 
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I have been prescribed meto on and off for a few years now when i request it for nausea . and never have i had any issues with it , this is only my personal experience and opinion
Yes, I have chzanged my mind some about meto- there are terrible side effects in a small fraction of 1% of the cases where it is taken- if yo happen to be vulnwerable to it it can be very disbaling, but I think the risk is worth it, though I though the stat dose mayhave less risk than the 48 hour regimen.
 
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Wait so then which antiemetic should we use???
There are a list of several in Stan's Guide. Using the stat dose is less likely to have side effects than the 48 hour regimen, based on cases from youtube for meto. Domperidone I think is the name of one people commonly use instead of meto. A less than 1% risk is not that much for meto. It's a judgment call.
 
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I used to think that the stat dose would be better foe avoiding side effects but my opinion changed. Mainly because a stat dose a higher than normal dose. This seems more likely to have adverse effects than using it at a more moderate dose for 12-24hrs. I could be wrong but that's where my instincts led me. Science/medicine may say otherwise.
 
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I used to think that the stat dose would be better foe avoiding side effects but my opinion changed. Mainly because a stat dose a higher than normal dose. This seems more likely to have adverse effects than using it at a more moderate dose for 12-24hrs. I could be wrong but that's where my instincts led me. Science/medicine may say otherwise.
The 48 hour regimen goes 10mg 10 10 101030mg, so the 48 hour includes a 30mg dose. The stat dose just has one 30mg dos. The reason I think the stat dose is safer is because of a cas of alady who did 20mg one day, then 20mg the next day, and then she started having very severe symptoms of her face and body contorting all over the place. This vulnerability is in less than 1% of people, possibiy genetic, and it often hits on the second day when it does hit. SO the state dose is safer but may not be as effective for reducing vomiting, so it's a guess as to which is better.
 
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