Full suspension hanging + closed door (picture)

[Exhausted546]

Could this work? I gave it a mini test run and my head still hurts from it. I made a Slipknot noose ,got on a chair, put my head in inse the noose,kicked the chair and thankfully there were things under me I could stand on but it seemed to work and support my weight for the the 2-3 seconds I tried it.

I hadn't attached the other side of the rope to anything but I'll at least tie it to a door knob just in case.

Does the set up seem viable or is it bound for failure?

 

[sanctionedusage]

i did a test run today too! just suspending it with my arm against various areas on my neck to find my sweet spot. made me understand a little more why people go for poisoning lol

 

[OnMyLast Legs]

I'd worry about unconscious thrashing turning the doorknob. A handle is worse than a circular knob. If you can lock it you're fine.

 

[Morris1211]

i did a test run today too! just suspending it with my arm against various areas on my neck to find my sweet spot. made me understand a little more why people go for poisoning lol

It was the bad eh? I was hoping to do FSH but scared of the pain. Did you get the exploding head feeling?

 

[sanctionedusage]

It was the bad eh? I was hoping to do FSH but scared of the pain. Did you get the exploding head feeling?

actually no! i used to get it all the time when i was younger, targeting the middle of my neck where my trachea is (partial suspension). this time i aimed for right where my neck and jaw meet, also partial, but it was a different head sensation. i think i'm just not used to that feeling compared to the partial artery obstruction and strangulation i expect when i think of hanging. when i go through with it i think id aim for full suspension with a ledge nearby in case its too uncomfortable, and go from there.

 

[fadedghost]

Could this work? I gave it a mini test run and my head still hurts from it. I made a Slipknot noose ,got on a chair, put my head in inse the noose,kicked the chair and thankfully there were things under me I could stand on but it seemed to work and support my weight for the the 2-3 seconds I tried it.

I hadn't attached the other side of the rope to anything but I'll at least tie it to a door knob just in case.

Does the set up seem viable or is it bound for failure?View attachment 190748

sadly it looks like it could possibly work, looks like a no-joke sailing rope or like a real rope

are you sure you want to do this?

why are you sad? have you tried to get help? not a pro-lifer... just asking, and feel free to just ignore this, no obligation to respond
i also don't know much about that method. i hope you feel better and am sorry you are sad.

 

[Exhausted546]

I'd worry about unconscious thrashing turning the doorknob. A handle is worse than a circular knob. If you can lock it you're fine.

I have a circular knob actually. I don't think I can lock it but I still managed the close the door which might be good enough

sadly it looks like it could possibly work, looks like a no-joke sailing rope or like a real rope

are you sure you want to do this?

why are you sad? have you tried to get help? not a pro-lifer... just asking, and feel free to just ignore this, no obligation to respond
i also don't know much about that method. i hope you feel better and am sorry you are sad.

Help won't help enough. I'm just exhausted enough that this seems like the better option

 

[dreamgarden]

looks pretty decent from the picture!

i'm curious, are you able to close the door fully or does it slightly protrude from the rope? also, where is the rope? near the hinges or the opposite end?

sorry to bombard you with questions...

 

[Exhausted546]

looks pretty decent from the picture!

i'm curious, are you able to close the door fully or does it slightly protrude from the rope? also, where is the rope? near the hinges or the opposite end?

sorry to bombard you with questions...

Only seeing this now. I get to close it fully after applying pushing the door hard enough to close it. It doesn't event budge a tiny bit when I put my full weight on the rope. I can't practice it for long enough tho cause it kinda hurts.

The rope was passed over the door, in the middle of the door , the other end of the rope is now tied to the doorknob on the other side of the door.

 

[dreamgarden]

get to close it fully after applying pushing the door hard enough to close it. It doesn't event budge a tiny bit when I put my full weight on the rope

very good sign!

rope was passed over the door, in the middle of the door , the other end of the rope is now tied to the doorknob on the other side of the door.

got it, it may be best to place the rope near the hinges to account for the weight placed on them. however, if the door is fully closed and locked, then anywhere else should still hold due to the doorframe.

as for the doorknob, it would probably be more reliable to find any sturdy object that is cylindrical (rolled up clothes/towels, bottles, the handle of a dumbbell, etc.) or similar and tie your rope to that with a secure knot, then use that as your anchor point by placing it behind the side of the door that you are going to hang from, then slipping the rope back over. by "back over," i mean similar to your doorknob setup where the noose is on the other side from where the doorknob is, except the doorknob is replaced by the cylindrical object in this case. in both cases, the anchor is not going to counter your weight but to prevent the rope from possibly slipping through and letting you fall (like the anchor of a ship to prevent it from moving in water). the doorframe should account for said weight as i mentioned earlier.

door knobs in hangings tend to break and snap off easily so they aren't too reliable as an anchor.

if perhaps you know this already and i'm beating a dead horse, i apologize!

everything i said here was pretty much a summary of this much bigger thread that you can look at to confirm for yourself.

additionally, here are the pictures i used as reference (from the same thread): pic. 1, pic. 2, pic. 3

i hope this helps and wish the you the best. if anything i said was confusing, let me know

 

[Exhausted546]

very good sign!

got it, it may be best to place the rope near the hinges to account for the weight placed on them. however, if the door is fully closed and locked, then anywhere else should still hold due to the doorframe.

as for the doorknob, it would probably be more reliable to find any sturdy object that is cylindrical (rolled up clothes/towels, bottles, the handle of a dumbbell, etc.) or similar and tie your rope to that with a secure knot, then use that as your anchor point by placing it behind the side of the door that you are going to hang from, then slipping the rope back over. by "back over," i mean similar to your doorknob setup where the noose is on the other side from where the doorknob is, except the doorknob is replaced by the cylindrical object in this case. in both cases, the anchor is not going to counter your weight but to prevent the rope from possibly slipping through and letting you fall (like the anchor of a ship to prevent it from moving in water). the doorframe should account for said weight as i mentioned earlier.

door knobs in hangings tend to break and snap off easily so they aren't too reliable as an anchor.

if perhaps you know this already and i'm beating a dead horse, i apologize!

everything i said here was pretty much a summary of this much bigger thread that you can look at to confirm for yourself.

additionally, here are the pictures i used as reference (from the same thread): pic. 1, pic. 2, pic. 3

i hope this helps and wish the you the best. if anything i said was confusing, let me know

Oh wow this was extremely informative. I am confused about the anchor dumbbell. Would the dumbbell and the noose be on the same side of the closed door? Or would that only be if the other rope's end was slided under the door to attach the dumbbell but otherwise I could have the noose on 1 side on the door and simply attach the other side of the door to a dumbbell?

 

[dreamgarden]

Would the dumbbell and the noose be on the same side of the closed door?

as you described, this may be achievable if you tie one end of the rope to the dumbbell's handle, then slide the other end of the rope (which is presumably tied in a proper noose knot) under the gap near the floor and over the door so that the noose and the dumbbell are on the same side. this is also fine since the dumbbell will prevent the rope from slipping.

otherwise I could have the noose on 1 side on the door and simply attach the other side of the door to a dumbbell

assuming you meant putting the noose on one side of the door and the attached dumbbell on the other side of the door, yes, this should also be stable.

the difference here is that one option has the rope going under AND over the door, whereas the other option has the rope simply going over the door.

both should be fine since the goal of the dumbbell/anchor point is to prevent the rope from dislodging.

 

[Exhausted546]

assuming you meant putting the noose on one side of the door and the attached dumbbell on the other side of the door, yes, this should also be stable.

the difference here is that one option has the rope going under AND over the door, whereas the other option has the rope simply going over the door.

both should be fine since the goal of the dumbbell/anchor point is to prevent the rope from dislodging.

Thank you for all this info. All that's left is practicing the set up then finding the courage to go through with it at the same time I somehow get an hour alone at home.

 

[dreamgarden]

Thank you for all this info. All that's left is practicing the set up then finding the courage to go through with it at the same time I somehow get an hour alone at home.

you're welcome

i wish you the best of luck and hope everything turns out well for you

 

[Exhausted546]

you're welcome

i wish you the best of luck and hope everything turns out well for you.

Hey do you know what this second knot is for?

 

[dreamgarden]

Hey do you know what this second knot is for?

yes, that is a stopper knot. it helps prevent the noose from unraveling. it's very useful in ensuring no catastrophic failures.

 

[Exhausted546]

yes, that is a stopper knot. it helps prevent the noose from unraveling. it's very useful in ensuring no catastrophic failures.

You were right about the anchor object. I had an attempt in a hurry and did it with my initial set up. Kicked the chair and to my surprise my hit the floor. Somehow the rope slipped. I had tied the other side to the doorknob but it undid itself. Tomorrow I'll do it with an anchor object ,hopefully it works this time.

It's arranged tho, the rope hadn't budged during my test runs so I'm confused at what happened, maybe my test runs didn't test my full weight as properly as I had thought

 

[dreamgarden]

You were right about the anchor object. I had an attempt in a hurry and did it with my initial set up. Kicked the chair and to my surprise my hit the floor. Somehow the rope slipped. I had tied the other side to the doorknob but it undid itself. Tomorrow I'll do it with an anchor object ,hopefully it works this time.

that's very scary! make sure to triple-check your knots and take your time.

the rope hadn't budged during my test runs so I'm confused at what happened, maybe my test runs didn't test my full weight as properly as I had thought

i may be wrong, but i think sometimes in test runs while we are consciously aware of what we're doing, we're, without knowing, sort of instinctively shying away from using the full body weight, which may skew the results of our tests. when you're unconscious, those reflexive limiters are gone and your body lets go fully, pushing the entire weight down. this is something to consider in hanging setups, imo.

edit: clarification

 

[Exhausted546]

that's very scary! make sure to triple-check your knots and take your time.

i may be wrong, but i think sometimes in test runs while we are consciously aware of what we're doing, we're, without knowing, sort of instinctively shying away from using the full body weight, which may skew the results of our tests. when you're unconscious, those reflexive limiters are gone and your body lets go fully, pushing the entire weight down. this is something to consider in hanging setups, imo.

edit: clarification

Thank you, although before my next attempts there's an issue, in this picture it says to lock the door but my door can't be locked. Any idea why the door would just open despite being shut close? Could it stay closed for like 4 mins but then suddenly open?

 

[dreamgarden]

Thank you, although before my next attempts there's an issue, in this picture it says to lock the door but my door can't be locked. Any idea why the door would just open despite being shut close? Could it stay closed for like 4 mins but then suddenly open?

it is possible due to the involuntary convulsions that occur when you are unconscious; the intensity of these movements may force the door open.

if you can't lock the door, it is highly recommended to find one that can be locked. it is very risky to do so unlocked.

the best thing i can think of in this case would be to wedge something under the entire gap of the door that has a wide surface area so that the friction provided by the object in the gap hinders the door's movement. however, this is still high-risk since the door is not secured shut so it might not be the best.

please be careful!

 

[ladyofsorrows]

what type of rope is this? i have one of those kernmantle ropes and i can't close the door on it :(

 

[Exhausted546]

it is possible due to the involuntary convulsions that occur when you are unconscious; the intensity of these movements may force the door open.

if you can't lock the door, it is highly recommended to find one that can be locked. it is very risky to do so unlocked.

the best thing i can think of in this case would be to wedge something under the entire gap of the door that has a wide surface area so that the friction provided by the object in the gap hinders the door's movement. however, this is still high-risk since the door is not secured shut so it might not be the best.

please be careful!

The 2 doors that can be locked at the bathroom doors but if I use them, how will anyone get in aside from breaking the door? Technically my bedroom has a "lock" when you twist the door knob counter-clockwise instead of clockwise but except making the door sound different,it doesn't prevent anyone for opening it on either side. However It makes the door thingie at the edge sturdier

If it wasn't so damn cold outside with so much damn snow, I'd do it outside in the wood. I'd go walk in the neighborhood park a few mins away just to see if I can use anything to hang from but it's so damn cold outside

 

[dreamgarden]

The 2 doors that can be locked at the bathroom doors but if I use them, how will anyone get in aside from breaking the door?

unfortunately, getting the door broken down is pretty much unavoidable if you want to really ensure your success using a door. i understand how you feel, it really sucks having these inevitable consequences. i honestly can't think of any other way someone would be able to open it since i'm not well-informed in that sense. all i can say is to put a warning note on the door or somewhere nearby in sight for the sake of whoever finds you.

Technically my bedroom has a "lock" when you twist the door knob counter-clockwise instead of clockwise but except making the door sound different,it doesn't prevent anyone for opening it on either side. However It makes the door thingie at the edge sturdier

it's up to you which door you use for your method, since i can't really give 100% correct answers for this. go with your gut and try to imagine what may happen with each door. picturing worst-case scenarios are often beneficial here.

If it wasn't so damn cold outside with so much damn snow, I'd do it outside in the wood. I'd go walk in the neighborhood park a few mins away just to see if I can use anything to hang from but it's so damn cold outside

i know! i can barely function or do anything in these temperatures...

but i hear decomposition slows in colder temperatures so it's also kind of a plus for when it's time to ctb?

 

[Exhausted546]

what type of rope is this? i have one of those kernmantle ropes and i can't close the door on it :(

Amazon.ca

This one

unfortunately, getting the door broken down is pretty much unavoidable if you want to really ensure your success using a door. i understand how you feel, it really sucks having these inevitable consequences. i honestly can't think of any other way someone would be able to open it since i'm not well-informed in that sense. all i can say is to put a warning note on the door or somewhere nearby in sight for the sake of whoever finds you.


it's up to you which door you use for your method, since i can't really give 100% correct answers for this. go with your gut and try to imagine what may happen with each door. picturing worst-case scenarios are often beneficial here.


i know! i can barely function or do anything in these temperatures...

but i hear decomposition slows in colder temperatures so it's also kind of a plus for when it's time to ctb?

I've seen vids of the trashing, it didn't seem intense enough to open the door out of force. Even kicking the door wouldn't open it.

Also I just thought about it. What about hanging from the other side of the close door, any movement of my body would just push the door shut even more

 

[dreamgarden]

What about hanging from the other side of the close door, any movement of my body would just push the door shut even more

i wouldn't be too sure of the body only pushing the door in the direction that would close it (if said door were to be unlocked and possibly opened). even then, with an open door, the rope still has a higher chance of sliding out of place and falling.

there seems to be no recognizable pattern to these unconscious movements, so it can only theoretically be described as a kind of push and pull motion in the context of door hanging, where the body may push back against the door as well as pull it forward with no way of prediction. the probability of these movements closing the door again via your body's sporadic movements seem very low. the rope must be secure so leaving this to chance doesn't sound preferable.

 

[Exhausted546]

i wouldn't be too sure of the body only pushing the door in the direction that would close it (if said door were to be unlocked and possibly opened). even then, with an open door, the rope still has a higher chance of sliding out of place and falling.

there seems to be no recognizable pattern to these unconscious movements, so it can only theoretically be described as a kind of push and pull motion in the context of door hanging, where the body may push back against the door as well as pull it forward with no way of prediction. the probability of these movements closing the door again via your body's sporadic movements seem very low. the rope must be secure so leaving this to chance doesn't sound preferable.

I guess I'll have to pray I don't end up vegetable. Hope that even if the door opens and I fall, the rope is right enough to keep doing its job

A part of me still can't believe I almost died today. Glad I found the courage to kick the chair. It would have been the end under normal circumstances