Venting frustrated that people think suicide is never the answer

[breachswapper]

i hate that there's nothing i could possibly say to convince a more sane person that i'm better off dead. i hate how it's ok to put a physically suffering person out of their misery but a mentally suffering person is just "going through a tough time" and needs to be saved. i hate how when i'm gone people are gonna act like it's some kind of tragedy instead of being happy for me. anyone else got this feeling?

 

[Parasitism]

Yes i relate to what you say. Politely rotting in private, for decades, is the kinder act according to society.

 

[mysticatedwine]

pretty sure everyone here shares this feeling. it's what leads most of us here (on the suicide discussion part at least), rather than some other support group with a toxic positivity and no other alternative than "trying to get better".

there's a good balance here. no toxic positivity nor toxic negativity. people don't "advertise" suicide nor do they try to get others to commit suicide. similarly, they don't force others to get better no matter what. this forum is the closest i've found to a REAL support group that respect its members integrity to some extent

 

[breachswapper]

Yes i relate to what you say. Politely rotting in private, for decades, is the kinder act according to society.

oh i don't even wanna CONSIDER decades dude.

pretty sure everyone here shares this feeling. it's what leads most of us here (on the suicide discussion part at least), rather than some other support group with a toxic positivity and no other alternative than "trying to get better".

there's a good balance here. no toxic positivity nor toxic negativity. people don't "advertise" suicide nor do they try to get others to commit suicide. similarly, they don't force others to get better no matter what. this forum is the closest i've found to a REAL support group that respect its members integrity to some extent

maybe my last part was kinda a dumb question, i just got here eheh

this place seems so nice though, never have i ever seen so many people who actually believe in the right to die all in one place

 

[mysticatedwine]

oh i don't even wanna CONSIDER decades dude.

maybe my last part was kinda a dumb question, i just got here eheh

this place seems so nice though, never have i ever seen so many people who actually believe in the right to die all in one place

not a dumb question :) im sure a lot of people have stuff to say about this, or personal experiences to share, etc

 

[breachswapper]

not a dumb question :) im sure a lot of people have stuff to say about this, or personal experiences to share, etc

alright, glad to hear (⁠✿⁠^⁠‿⁠^⁠)

 

[Dejected 55]

i hate that there's nothing i could possibly say to convince a more sane person that i'm better off dead. i hate how it's ok to put a physically suffering person out of their misery but a mentally suffering person is just "going through a tough time" and needs to be saved. i hate how when i'm gone people are gonna act like it's some kind of tragedy instead of being happy for me. anyone else got this feeling?

It would at least be a little different, a little more sincere IF they actually wanted to save you. But they don't. Not really. If they wanted to save you, they would listen. Most of us aren't in need of major things. Simple things are often what most of us are lacking... it's just we are lacking them all the time, and no one notices, and when we scream our needs, no one cares. We are laughed at, mocked, told to "suck it up" or "it will get better" and they have a parade and a concert to "celebrate" suicide awareness while they don't want to look at your face, don't want to think about you, can't consider actually helping you in any meaningful way. They just want to say they helped, say they tried. When people ask them, they will always say... "I tried everything" when they tried nothing. When you're gone they will "honor" you in some thing they want to do anyway that really has nothing to do with you, and might even offend your sensibilities... but they don't care.

 

[FuneralCry]

I really understand, I see so much cruelty in how the suffering and torture of existing is seen as to force and prolong no matter what, there should be the option to cease existing painlessly, it truly is such a horrific anti-suicide world where there is no acceptance towards the right to die.

 

[qewpie]

society doesnt even let physically suffering people get out of misery though?? there are so many people with chronic pain who would probably take MAID if they were allowed

 

[CutePrincess]

i hate that there's nothing i could possibly say to convince a more sane person that i'm better off dead. i hate how it's ok to put a physically suffering person out of their misery but a mentally suffering person is just "going through a tough time" and needs to be saved. i hate how when i'm gone people are gonna act like it's some kind of tragedy instead of being happy for me. anyone else got this feeling?

I also feel like it's stupid that people will see suicade like a tragedy when you struggle with major mental illness. My mental illness is a tragedy, suicide is what put an end to this.

 

[breachswapper]

society doesnt even let physically suffering people get out of misery though?? there are so many people with chronic pain who would probably take MAID if they were allowed

you're right i was just typing that with people who do qualify in mind and i definitely could've worded that part better.,, i think a better way to put it is like. why is there some kind of threshold for how much pain someone has to experience before they're allowed to die. like if you aren't suffering hard enough then people just tell you to keep pushing through you get what i'm saying

 

[qewpie]

you're right i was just typing that with people who do qualify in mind and i definitely could've worded that part better.,, i think a better way to put it is like. why is there some kind of threshold for how much pain someone has to experience before they're allowed to die. like if you aren't suffering hard enough then people just tell you to keep pushing through you get what i'm saying

yeah. no one understands until they go through something similar.