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It's possible to buy a huge freezer that are completely airtight. If you went inside with a helium tank it would turn into a successful suicide. It's way more effective than using exit bag. It's not cheap but it's like one of the gas Chambers used in USA prison.

The exit bag is not effective for suicide. The stats show low effectiveness. If you need to die and exit bag is your option then you need to understand that you might never make it work.
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Lol you come up with some good ways for sure. I really like the sound of this one but unlike the ball this might set off feeling of being trapped.

The ball is probably better for peaceful/calm.

I hope you know I am being serious, I'm not trying to insult.
 
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Lol you come up with some good ways for sure. I really like the sound of this one but unlike the ball this might set off feeling of being trapped.

The ball is probably better for peaceful/calm.

I hope you know I am being serious, I'm not trying to insult.
I have lots of health issues and it has made me think about suicide and yes this freezer could have enough oxygen inside to the point where you feel like you are chocking but I was thinking that the gas inside the helium tank is compressed down to take a smaller place so there would be way more helium inside the small tank than there is oxygen inside the big freezer

And I'm super short so I could probably enter inside with more than one helium tank and then release the helium which should then be able to replace the oxygen inside. It might not be completely peaceful with the freezer I admit that but SN takes longer and could be super uncomfortable. Do you want to wait for hours trying to kill yourself with SN? I don't understand how anyone would use suicide that takes hour's where you can regret while you are thinking about what you have done. To kill yourself is hard. If it takes a long time then you will probably regret and over think and call the ambulance.

Even heroin would be better than SN. But it's hard to buy this. I read that it's easier to buy heroin than to order pizza in news articles but this isn't true. The only drugs I could buy on Snapchat is benzo and cocaine, weed, hallucination drugs but it's only heroin and Morphin that is effective and peaceful. All the talk about nebutal is pointless. These drugs are impossible to buy. If we are being realistic there is only a few options for suicide that would be successful. Even jumping has a surprisingly low successful rate but I think that the reason is that people could easily overestimate how tall a house is. That's why the article said jumping has 56% successful rate. There just isn't that many places that are tall enough and easily accessible.
 
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It's possible to buy a huge freezer that are completely airtight. If you went inside with a helium tank it would turn into a successful suicide. It's way more effective than using exit bag. It's not cheap but it's like one of the gas Chambers used in USA prison.


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Are you making a homemade Sarco pod!šŸ˜†

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You're gonna have the same problem as with the bubble ball. Getting low O2 while ensuring it's full of helium.
The exit bag is not effective for suicide. The stats show low effectiveness. If you need to die and exit bag is your option then you need to understand that you might never make it work.

What stats are you referring to? From what I've seen it has a very high effectiveness when done properly. The Exit bag has been used dozens of times successfully. Inert gas been used successfully with hoods, SCBA masks, and SCUBA masks.

Using freezers and zorb balls require a greater area to fill with gas.

I would say jumping too has a high success rate if done from a high enough jumping point.

 
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Unfortunately I have the same point here as for the balloon: if the freezer is too full of gas (and continues to be filled...), what will happen? It may not explode like the balloon potentially does, but maybe the door will open?
 
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It's possible to buy a huge freezer that are completely airtight. If you went inside with a helium tank it would turn into a successful suicide.
If it were completely airtight, you wouldn't be able to displace oxygen from it and the partial pressure of oxygen would remain the same, no matter how much helium you release. Freezers actually have a small hole that prevents a disaster when you can't open the door because the pressure inside is less than outside (when warm air is cooled, its pressure is reduced, so the difference has to be compensated by sucking more air from the outside).

Since that hole can be very small, it may be difficult to displace hundreds of liters of air through it in a couple of minutes. If you get an excessive pressure inside, it will just open the door.
 
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Chelsea Leng

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I think zorb ball is a great idea, because zorb ball can be filled with oxygen that sustain a person for 30 minutes.
what if to fil the ball with inert gas? it's cheaper than a freezer and also airtight
 
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It's possible to buy a huge freezer that are completely airtight. If you went inside with a helium tank it would turn into a successful suicide. It's way more effective than using exit bag. It's not cheap but it's like one of the gas Chambers used in USA prison.

The exit bag is not effective for suicide. The stats show low effectiveness. If you need to die and exit bag is your option then you need to understand that you might never make it work.
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What do you think is wrong with this method?
 
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This is quite a creative method lol but ironically isn't that bad. Its greatest advantage is that you basically lie down and just wait until you feel very tired and fall asleep.

The downsides with this method are mostly about cost and practicality but for a determined individual willing to make it work it's not a bad idea.

First obstacle is getting such a big freezer, preferably large enough to lie down comfortably. Fortunately you can source one second hand as large and bulky items like these are something people would want to get rid of to save a trip to the junk. You would also require some help transporting it and moving it wherever you intend to ctb, which would involve people involuntarily helping you to ctb.

Second step would be to controlling how the gas is released and controlling the gas flow. Stepping in with a cylinder doesn't sound very appealing and is susceptible to damaging the regulator valve.

I would recommend multiple outlets of gas with external cylinders outside the freezer, near the bottom in the sides preferably to help push out the remaining oxygen. Then set the appropriate gas flow on all cylinders and climb down awaiting your destination.
Check valves will help bleeding the excess oxygen out while keeping the overpressure under control.

What kind of gas and how much?

I found one freezer which would accommodate a shorter individual like myself with an interior volume of 635 liters. I have no idea how much gas is needed but four times the internal volume wouldn't be that crazy? Two 2000liters of inert gas at either side of the freezer would sound appropriate and possible to source without being suspicious.

2000 liters at 25/lpm would last you 80 min per cylinder, giving you 50/lpm with both cylinder on. 50/lpm would fill up the 635 liter freezer in 13 min, hopefully lowering the breathing atmosphere to make you fall unconscious. The reaming 67 min would with high certainty make you ctb. A test with an oxygen meter before hand would be a sensible precaution.

Then the question about which gas to use.

Argon which is a heavy gas would have the benefit of sinking to the bottom of the freezer and pushing the oxygen out. It would be a matter of keeping the lid open flooding it with argon, then jump down to an highly concentrated argon atmosphere down there. You would lose unconsciouses pretty quickly and is probably the safest bet to ensure ctb.

Nitrogen, the preferred gas for sarco does not have the same benefits of argon in this case. You would have to wait inside the freezer until the atmosphere is low enough, which would be approximately 13 min, the same time as with sarco. Some could call this an advantage as you simply wait until you fall asleep, wouldn't recommend the same procedure with argon since argon poisoning is more noticeable than nitrogen.

Helium the most expensive gas would have similar results as nitrogen. I'm unsure how well the helium would work with the check valves? Would helium the lighter gas have problem pushing the ordinary air through the valve? Since helium is more expensive nitrogen would be preferred between helium and nitrogen.

An intriguing idea with a freezer I must say, giving the same benefits of an sarco with some DIY solutions and handwork. I'm almost interested doing it myself, but I settle with the ordinary way with a mask.
 

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