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[NotStrongEnough]

I just read the NYT article and I have to say something. If you want to help, stop blaming websites. Stop blaming other people. Suicidal people will still kill themselves, no matter how much you try and shut down places where they can talk openly about their struggles.

Stop blaming everyone else and start blaming yourselves. Start reading things here and try and sympathize with us. Try and understand where we are and why we think the way we do. Just because YOU can't understand why someone would kill themselves doesn't mean that we don't have our own valid reasons for wanting to end it.

Try being less judgmental. You making judgement calls on our reasons being valid isn't your choice. Try being more understanding. Try helping. Try anything other than having impotent rage at one of the few, if only, websites where we can discuss our struggles openly.

This shit makes me want to die more, not less. Why do I want to stay in a world where the only thing people who don't understand can scream at you "IT WILL GET BETTER!" when it plainly hasn't, and probably never will. Stop saying "it will get better" and start saying "Hey, it won't get better. Can we make you comfortable enough to stick around? Please? I know it's selfish, but I don't want you to go." At least, thats actual honesty. And IMO that's what we need - honesty. Not platitudes and bullshit that never comes true.

This will probably get deleted, removed or w/e. But I still felt it needed to be said.

 

[noname223]

Like this resembles a thought I recently had. If pro-lifers would be for one week in my shoes they would get pretty fast why pro-choice is so important.

 

[Foresight]

Like this resembles a thought I recently had. If pro-lifers would be for one week in my shoes they would get pretty fast why pro-choice is so important.

That's what I'm talking about. Some of us have insurmountable problems, some physical that don't kill us but lower our quality of life to inhumane levels. That can't be willed away. I've stuck it out in recovery for 5 years now and all I achieved so far is newfound psychosis from deepening trauma from my physical problems.

Stop saying "it will get better" and start saying "Hey, it won't get better. Can we make you comfortable enough to stick around? Please? I know it's selfish, but I don't want you to go." At least, thats actual honesty. And IMO that's what we need - honesty. Not platitudes and bullshit that never comes true.

This is what we need to hear. No my issue will not get better, it is physical and defining. It doesn't need to be physical though. Maybe a mother who watched her kid die and lost hope in existence won't get better, maybe someone who has been through nothing but trauma and abuse since diapers won't get better, maybe life was unwillingly thrust on us all and some of us need to call it a day. In the US you need to more than just survive too, you need to thrive. You will drown without it, getting on welfare for mental illness is not easy. You need to work and work well to stay off the streets.

 

[Twiceler]

Suicidal people will still kill themselves, no matter how much you try and shut down places where they can talk openly about their struggles.

As far as i know, the statistic says that blocking methods, hiding news about suicide and intimidation are actually help to reduce amount of suicides. There's a science behind it. So russian secret services, for example, are working on it 24/7. But they're too blunt and not informed enough, i guess, because this site is not banned here yet. Kinda strange. Anyway, if the normies find this site unhealthy, it will be banned sooner or later, unless it's not a "suicide prevention" forum and there are not so many people here.

 

[ForeverLonely82]

I try to help if someone reaches out, but if they made up their mind i'll try to keep them comfortable until they pass into their next destination. You shouldn't have to stay in life if you don't want to and strongly believe that.

 

[Onthe29th]

I try to help if someone reaches out, but if they made up their mind i'll try to keep them comfortable until they pass into their next destination. You shouldn't have to stay in life if you don't want to and strongly believe that.

Same, if it's a problem that I know I can help with, I'll try to help as hypocritical as it is. Some people are just stuck and if someone can help them get unstuck, they won't ctb.
However, I also understand that some people like me are beyond help. So I'll just be non- judgemental and supportive of whatever decision they make.

 

[ForeverLonely82]

Same, if it's a problem that I know I can help with, I'll try to help as hypocritical as it is. Some people are just stuck and if someone can help them get unstuck, they won't ctb.
However, I also understand that some people like me are beyond help. So I'll just be non- judgemental and supportive of whatever decision they make.

We are all in this mess together and I just want to try to help someone who's not too far gone. I don't judge people for their reason of wanting out of here or what makes them feel as you said "stuck". Really sad that majority of us here and other places are just that, but given how the world is these days and how heartless people can be...What other choice is there? No one likes to see someone pass who is struggling, but if that's their only way to peace then I can't be selfish. However if anyone wants to just talk and pour their heart out. I am here with open arms and won't judge because I don't care what you are, but who you are.