Feasible?

[Suicat]

Soon, when I get unescorted leave from the psych ward (this week), I'll be going home and taking a few strips of diazepam 10mg with me then to where I aim to ctb, going to a pub and having a few drinks then buying a bottle of pop and taking the benzos. I don't know whether to Pace myself with the pills or take them all at once but ultimately that doesn't matter because it's not my main method, it's just to disorientate myself. Main method: there's a multistorey carpark where I want to go and it's 8 floors high(very bottom to the roof being a floor) I think (counted from a photo of the carpark)... I aim to go to the top, climb over the barrier and lean backwards to fall onto concrete, hopefully land on my head, that's the main aim!

All this can really only happen if the doc gives me an hour or more as I live in supported housing so they'll know I've gone home. I'm writing my notes and leaving them on the bed on the ward, they just need to be easy to find to be given to the right people. It's not likely they'll look in my room when they find that I've gone AWOL. I'm aiming not to answer my phone but after benzos and such, blacking out is a high possibility so I need to think about that. I'll be printing instructions for my pets that I've already printed before but need to make sure there is still a copy available, when the people that work at my flat find out that I haven't returned to the ward, they are likely to look in my flat for any clues. I'm hoping that I'll have enough time even if they do alert the police because they won't know where I've gone.

Sorry, total rambling. TL;DR benzos, alcohol, multistorey carpark to concrete... Multiple deaths have been reported from falls from there, not found any reports of failed attempts but would they report that? Carpark is in the city centre but I don't think they'll notice someone climbing up the barrier from up high.

Edited-: removed something that may be misunderstood.

 

[Toenditall]

Sorry to say but if it's in a shopping centre won't there be kids there that would be horrified to see someone hit the floor unless you do it at night I'd choose a better spot

 

[Suicat]

Sorry to say but if it's in a shopping centre won't there be kids there that would be horrified to see someone hit the floor unless you do it at night I'd choose a better spot

Would be at night/evening and not on a weekend, I'm going to take that bit out tbh cause it's not a shopping centre as you may picture, it's not in the middle of one and the sides you can jump from aren't necessarily in front of people, especially kids

 

[Retched]

Soon, when I get unescorted leave from the psych ward (this week), I'll be going home and taking a few strips of diazepam 10mg with me then to where I aim to ctb, going to a pub and having a few drinks then buying a bottle of pop and taking the benzos. I don't know whether to Pace myself with the pills or take them all at once but ultimately that doesn't matter because it's not my main method, it's just to disorientate myself. Main method: there's a multistorey carpark where I want to go and it's 8 floors high(very bottom to the roof being a floor) I think (counted from a photo of the carpark)... I aim to go to the top, climb over the barrier and lean backwards to fall onto concrete, hopefully land on my head, that's the main aim!

All this can really only happen if the doc gives me an hour or more as I live in supported housing so they'll know I've gone home. I'm writing my notes and leaving them on the bed on the ward, they just need to be easy to find to be given to the right people. It's not likely they'll look in my room when they find that I've gone AWOL. I'm aiming not to answer my phone but after benzos and such, blacking out is a high possibility so I need to think about that. I'll be printing instructions for my pets that I've already printed before but need to make sure there is still a copy available, when the people that work at my flat find out that I haven't returned to the ward, they are likely to look in my flat for any clues. I'm hoping that I'll have enough time even if they do alert the police because they won't know where I've gone.

Sorry, total rambling. TL;DR benzos, alcohol, multistorey carpark to concrete... Multiple deaths have been reported from falls from there, not found any reports of failed attempts but would they report that? Carpark is in the city centre in the middle of a shopping area. But I don't think they'll notice someone climbing up the barrier from up high.

I've wondered about the parking garage "fails" too. I have pondered this method at great length. I think if you time it right then you can make sure that you don't land on any people. Truth though, it is public and someone has the chance of really being traumatized seeing your fall or landing. But everyone has their own methods, I'm not judging. People jump off the garages all the time. And if I get desperate enough in the next few weeks, who knows. Though I've been up and it looks like a really far way down and a painful death, at least it would be a death. One can hope. Otherwise it is a life in excruciating pain, but I guess we all know that methods have a way of not working as much as they do work. I think I personally overthink things now...

 

[Suicat]

I've wondered about the parking garage "fails" too. I have pondered this method at great length. I think if you time it right then you can make sure that you don't land on any people. Truth though, it is public and someone has the chance of really being traumatized seeing your fall or landing. But everyone has their own methods, I'm not judging. People jump off the garages all the time. And if I get desperate enough in the next few weeks, who knows. Though I've been up and it looks like a really far way down and a painful death, at least it would be a death. One can hope. Otherwise it is a life in excruciating pain, but I guess we all know that methods have a way of not working as much as they do work. I think I personally overthink things now...

I'm so scared of landing on someone and yeah but it's a fairly desperate method, and things going wrong is always a danger but I've got to try something, I think if you land on your head, it's not painful for long. I saw a comment in passing that said a person just blacked out. But remember I will have (hopefully) had benzos so I may not notice, who knooooooows

 

[Retched]

I'm so scared of landing on someone and yeah but it's a fairly desperate method, and things going wrong is always a danger but I've got to try something, I think if you land on your head, it's not painful for long. I saw a comment in passing that said a person just blacked out. But remember I will have (hopefully) had benzos so I may not notice, who knooooooows

I hear ya. I've researched the parking garage jumps. Here they have had 100% success rate (as far as I know) but I'm not sure if they report the failures...I knew a person who jumped off a 5 story one and failed. It was at a hospital too...so, not like they had to transport him very far to "be saved" poor guy, at the time I didn't understand why he would do that but now I understand more than I like to.

 

[Suicat]

I hear ya. I've researched the parking garage jumps. Here they have had 100% success rate (as far as I know) but I'm not sure if they report the failures...I knew a person who jumped off a 5 story one and failed. It was at a hospital too...so, not like they had to transport him very far to "be saved" poor guy, at the time I didn't understand why he would do that but now I understand more than I like to.

I know people that have failed but not jumped far enough, I know a girl that jumped from a high carpark twice and has ended up in a lot of pain with all kinds of broken bones but still walks unassisted... yet I know of a guy that jumped from his flat balcony and has ended up permanently paralyzed... Though I don't know how high or how he landed! It's so scary to think of failure.

 

[OkTotti]

i was thinking 8 stories isn't high enough to ensure that you'd CTB but i think that must be the equivalent of a 10 story fall from a building. Landing so your head hits the concrete is key. It would be awful, if you happen to survive....

 

[Retched]

I know people that have failed but not jumped far enough, I know a girl that jumped from a high carpark twice and has ended up in a lot of pain with all kinds of broken bones but still walks unassisted... yet I know of a guy that jumped from his flat balcony and has ended up permanently paralyzed... Though I don't know how high or how he landed! It's so scary to think of failure.

Twice? And can still walk? Wow. I hate the idea of failure too.....guess that is why I haven't done it...

 

[Suicat]

i was thinking 8 stories isn't high enough to ensure that you'd CTB but i think that must be the equivalent of a 10 story fall from a building. Landing so your head hits the concrete is key. It would be awful, if you happen to survive....

It would be awful if I happened to survive a lot of methods! But I've tried a lot of things and this is my last resort kind of thing.

 

[Suicat]

Twice? And can still walk? Wow. I hate the idea of failure too.....guess that is why I haven't done it...

Yep, it's not a good walk and she has fused ankles, is also on fentanyl patches & morphine... Doesn't seem a good life.

 

[Retched]

Yep, it's not a good walk and she has fused ankles, is also on fentanyl patches & morphine... Doesn't seem a good life.

And she keeps living. Wow.

 

[OkTotti]

Yep, it's not a good walk and she has fused ankles, is also on fentanyl patches & morphine... Doesn't seem a good life.

I wonder if she knows about Fentanyl... she probably does but i wonder why she doesn't CTB with this method.. unless she changed her mind about CTB'ing

 

[Suicat]

I wonder if she knows about Fentanyl... she probably does but i wonder why she doesn't CTB with this method.. unless she changed her mind about CTB'ing

She jumps on impulse, she's jumped a total of 3 times but I can't remember what the 3rd time was off, I'm not sure it really is to die, even if she jumped from a height. When she gets it in her head, she does it, I don't think she plans any of the things she does so I don't think she'd od with fentanyl patches.

 

[worldexploder]

I personally wouldn't even consider jumping from only 8 storeys. Even if you do end up dying there is a chance that you will be alive for quite some time afterwords.

 

[Suicat]

I personally wouldn't even consider jumping from only 8 storeys. Even if you do end up dying there is a chance that you will be alive for quite some time afterwords.

Falling backwards though? Jumping would be more likely to be survivable after landing due to legs/base of back taking most of the impact but I think I'd hit my head first. There are also a lot of reported fatalities. Though I'm still going to have to face that damned survival instinct before even trying to get over the barrier!

 

[worldexploder]

Falling backwards though? Jumping would be more likely to be survivable after landing due to legs/base of back taking most of the impact but I think I'd hit my head first. There are also a lot of reported fatalities. Though I'm still going to have to face that damned survival instinct before even trying to get over the barrier!

But you can't guarentee what part of the body will hit the pavement first. Especially if you are intoxicated and it's night. You may fall backwards and spin a little bit just to land on your legs or lower back. All these scenarios must be considered.

 

[Finallyhere]

I fell from eight STEPS onto tile and broke a few bones in my face.

Of course, there are those who survive from 300 ft and more but that's because the wind breaks their fall and they kind of become like a floating feather. Plus they may have some meat on their bones and the fat protects them.

I think as long as you don't land on your legs, you'll be done for. There's practically no way a skull or spine can survive that sort of impact, unless maybe you're really muscular/obese.

It always depends on what you land on, but at eight stories, you're pretty much falling into the position you were in when you jumped. If you lean back into it, there's barely any time to reposition yourself into a safe position because the drop is less than 3 seconds.

https://outdoors.stackexchange.com/questions/8106/how-far-would-you-need-to-fall-for-it-to-be-fatal

 

[TiredHorse]

I wonder if you could tie maybe 20' of rope onto your feet --not very much-- and let it trail behind you as you dive head-first. Don't tie it to anything on the platform, of course, just leave it trailing loose in the air behind you as a drogue. Would the friction of the rope dragging over the edge of whatever you jumped off help stabilize you in a head-first dive, so you didn't continue turning in mid-air? Or would it slow your fall significantly and prove to be more of a hindrance than a help?

 

[ctbclaire]

I wonder if she knows about Fentanyl... she probably does but i wonder why she doesn't CTB with this method.. unless she changed her mind about CTB'ing

Do you know how hard it is to get Fentanyl?

 

[Finallyhere]

Do you know how hard it is to get Fentanyl?

The person he is referring to receives Fentanyl patches.

 

[ctbclaire]

The person he is referring to receives Fentanyl patches.

How many patches would it take to kill the average person?

 

[Finallyhere]

How many patches would it take to kill the average person?

Dunno, depends on the tolerance of the person and the strength of the patch. Read a report where some dude died from six patches. I think the lethal dose of fent is 200 mg. But it's probably less than that for lower tolerances.

 

[TiredHorse]

The biggest F patch is 100mg, I believe. Something in the article I read about the pharmacist in CA who ctb that way made me believe he'd used six of that largest size --and an open beer (alcohol accelerant?) was found nearby.

From what information I've been gleaning, the patches also depend on body fat and temperature. So a skinny guy with a heating pad to increase circulation around the patches will ctb a lot easier that a chunky guy in a cold room.

 

[death song]

Yep, it's not a good walk and she has fused ankles, is also on fentanyl patches & morphine... Doesn't seem a good life.

Chewing on a fresh fentanyl patch will definitely result in CTB. A friend of mine passed that way. She was not trying to CTB just was an opioid addict and got her hands on an unused patch chewed it and it killed her.