nottinghams

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I have here around 1 gram of a powder fentanyl.
its pure, could possibly have some nitazenes in it but those are stronger anyway.

I hear that pills are a stronger dose sometimes. IDK about powder, but if I have an abundance of fatal dose, it should do the trick, right?
Do I need to IV the powder? Could I reconstitute it into a pill? How else could I dose it?
 
LunarLight

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Hi dude, sorry I overreacted the other day. I shouldn't have flown off the handle. I'll try to source my answers as much as possible.

How do you know for sure? Depending on where you live, it may be laced with xylazine. (especially if you ordered from the States)


That having been said, it lowers the lethal dose, as shown in this preprint study on mice.


"A nonlethal dose of fentanyl (56 mg/kg) produced an approximately 5-fold decrease in the estimated LD50 for xylazine (i.e., the dose estimated to produce lethality in 50% of the population). Notably, a nonlethal dose of xylazine (100 mg/kg) produced an approximately 100-fold decrease in the estimated LD50 for fentanyl. The opioid receptor antagonist, naloxone (3 mg/kg), but not the alpha-2 adrenergic receptor antagonist, yohimbine (3 mg/kg), significantly decreased the lethality of a fentanyl-xylazine combination. Lethality was rapid, with death occurring within 10 min after a high dose combination and generally within 30 min at lower dose combinations."

So it would be a good thing for your plan.

could possibly have some nitazenes in it but those are stronger anyway

It depends. Some nitazenes are, but not all of them.

I hear that pills are a stronger dose sometimes


Bioavailability92% (transdermal)
90% (intranasal)
50% (buccal)
33% (ingestion)
100% (intramuscular)
80% (inhaled)
100% (intravenous)

According to Wikipedia, the F dose you would need to CTB would be 3 times stronger than an IV/IM dose. Actually, pills are the weakest form of F. Plus, it requires some skills to make a pill. Wouldn't it be easier for you to snort it? Requires almost no skills, bioavailability 80%.

if I have an abundance of fatal dose, it should do the trick, right?
Yeah, I think if you have no tolerance to opiates, a dose as low as 10mg should be more than enough to kill you. But remember, it depends on how pure your F is.
The general consensus is that 2mg is enough to kill you if you have no tolerance.


"42% of pills tested for fentanyl contained at least 2 mg of fentanyl, considered a potentially lethal dose"

But better be safe than sorry, 10mg should be an overkill dose, and you can snort it easily. As you don't know how pure your F is, you can even go up to 100mg, which is, I think, a good amount to snort without slowering the absorption too much (this is purely from experience: I used to do K and H a lot of times and it was an average dose).


"Snorting is also not recommended as absorption can be slow and is effected by the amount of powder in your nostrils; the more powder, the slower the absorption."

Do I need to IV the powder?
Not necessarily, as I said before, inhalation has a 80% bioavailabilty. If you really want to inject it, you can go for an IM ROA - same bioavailability, you won't pass out while injecting, and it requires less skills. I did it with H, it's not that hard. But you need parphernalia. If I were you, I would snort it. You just need a straw.


Could I reconstitute it into a pill?
Yes, but it requires some skills. A friend of mine did it with pregabalin and it worked well. Snorting would be much easier and kill you much faster though.

 
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How do you know for sure? Depending on where you live, it may be laced with xylazine. (especially if you ordered from the States)
I heard about people "washing" their drugs with acetone. Would it be possible to do the same with F to get rid of any additives?
 
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fwiw to anyone considering this method the info is out there. opinions on such methods not being not guaranteed are one thing, but the facts are another. people may have no other option to get themselves help, so it's not right to offer opinions on overdose as facts and try to scare people who desperately need help.

"A lethal dose of heroin is 100 mg, but a lethal dose of fentanyl is 2 mg, with doses as small as 0.25 mg, equivalent to a single grain of sand"

 
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I suggest you get an app called chemlog:
Chemlog.app
You can get it from GitHub.

Or try: chemdiary.com

Both have an abundance of information about all the drugs and all the types of fent.
 
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nottinghams

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Hi dude, sorry I overreacted the other day. I shouldn't have flown off the handle. I'll try to source my answers as much as possible.


How do you know for sure? Depending on where you live, it may be laced with xylazine. (especially if you ordered from the States)


That having been said, it lowers the lethal dose, as shown in this preprint study on mice.


"A nonlethal dose of fentanyl (56 mg/kg) produced an approximately 5-fold decrease in the estimated LD50 for xylazine (i.e., the dose estimated to produce lethality in 50% of the population). Notably, a nonlethal dose of xylazine (100 mg/kg) produced an approximately 100-fold decrease in the estimated LD50 for fentanyl. The opioid receptor antagonist, naloxone (3 mg/kg), but not the alpha-2 adrenergic receptor antagonist, yohimbine (3 mg/kg), significantly decreased the lethality of a fentanyl-xylazine combination. Lethality was rapid, with death occurring within 10 min after a high dose combination and generally within 30 min at lower dose combinations."

So it would be a good thing for your plan.



It depends. Some nitazenes are, but not all of them.




Bioavailability92% (transdermal)
90% (intranasal)
50% (buccal)
33% (ingestion)
100% (intramuscular)
80% (inhaled)
100% (intravenous)

According to Wikipedia, the F dose you would need to CTB would be 3 times stronger than an IV/IM dose. Actually, pills are the weakest form of F. Plus, it requires some skills to make a pill. Wouldn't it be easier for you to snort it? Requires almost no skills, bioavailability 80%.


Yeah, I think if you have no tolerance to opiates, a dose as low as 10mg should be more than enough to kill you. But remember, it depends on how pure your F is.
The general consensus is that 2mg is enough to kill you if you have no tolerance.


"42% of pills tested for fentanyl contained at least 2 mg of fentanyl, considered a potentially lethal dose"

But better be safe than sorry, 10mg should be an overkill dose, and you can snort it easily. As you don't know how pure your F is, you can even go up to 100mg, which is, I think, a good amount to snort without slowering the absorption too much (this is purely from experience: I used to do K and H a lot of times and it was an average dose).


"Snorting is also not recommended as absorption can be slow and is effected by the amount of powder in your nostrils; the more powder, the slower the absorption."


Not necessarily, as I said before, inhalation has a 80% bioavailabilty. If you really want to inject it, you can go for an IM ROA - same bioavailability, you won't pass out while injecting, and it requires less skills. I did it with H, it's not that hard. But you need parphernalia. If I were you, I would snort it. You just need a straw.



Yes, but it requires some skills. A friend of mine did it with pregabalin and it worked well. Snorting would be much easier and kill you much faster though.


OK, thanks for the sourcing. I see you're saying IV and IM ROA might be too difficult to learn if snorting will work just fine. But you said snorting might slow absorption rate. How could I fix that?
if I take the powder orally with say DMSO would that work just as fine?

i am really super anxious as to how to dose it correctly. frankly im a little scared of snorting, I don't like doing nasal washes, but if its not that bad..
 
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OK, thanks for the sourcing. I see you're saying IV and IM ROA might be too difficult to learn if snorting will work just fine. But you said snorting might slow absorption rate. How could I fix that?
if I take the powder orally with say DMSO would that work just as fine?

i am really super anxious as to how to dose it correctly. frankly im a little scared of snorting, I don't like doing nasal washes, but if its not that bad..

For fentanyl/nitazenes the order of bioavailability is IV>dissolved in DSMO (dermal aplication)>rectal/boofing>intranasal>oral

for guaranteed ctb there must be a balance between quantity/purity and potency of the substance and his route (bioavailability).
 
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