Help Failed partial hanging in psych ward - what did I do wrong?

[3FailedAttemptss]

OK, so I'm still in the psych ward, and yes, I know I've tried to kill myself by a partial hanging in here before >w< but yesterday was a really, really bad day, and I couldn't even get out of bed. I haven't had anything to eat in over two days, so things were just bad. But as I was lying in my bed, I was thinking, "How could I kill myself in here?" because there are door handles to the restroom- I have leaned my entire body weight off of these door handles, so I know they're strong and can support me. They're sort of like hooks, so I've tried with my panties around the door handle and around my neck, and that got me nowhere.

So yesterday I thought that I would try with a T-shirt since maybe my panties are too elastic, and the T-shirt is thick stiffer sort of fabric or not as elastic. I got really, really close- my first try, my vision and hearing started going, I started feeling tingly and shaking and then nothing. I thought those were my last seconds and then nothing; i'm still alive. I kept trying for like over an hour with no success. I didn't even come as close, so I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I positioned the T-shirt such that it was like above my Adam's apple. Is that too high, or should I put it somewhere else?

They've got me all doped up on a ton of different medications now because my contact person walked in on me trying to hang myself, but I'm still compelled to try.

I don't see the point of waiting any longer, so if I could just figure out what made that first attempt successful and why did all my other many, many attempts like not work?

 

[misanthropemurder]

Look, I don't want you to kill youself; but if you were going to, it's really not a good idea to attempt while in the mental hospital. I've been admitted before, from my experience, nurses do their rounds every 15 or so minutes. That's not a lot of time to do it.

And on a side note, how do you even have access to your phone while hospitalized?

 

[3FailedAttemptss]

Look, I don't want you to kill youself; but if you were going to, it's really not a good idea to attempt while in the mental hospital. I've been admitted before, from my experience, nurses do their rounds every 15 or so minutes. That's not a lot of time to do it.

And on a side note, how do you even have access to your phone while hospitalized?

My caregivers usually check on me once an hour, but now after my last attempt, they've increased my observation level to twice an hour. I thought if they checked on me and then I immediately attempted suicide when they left- I'd have an entire hour to work with. That should be sufficient time for partial hanging to be successful.

I got really close. I got really fucking close. I just don't know what I was doing wrong.

Additionally, every single psych ward I've been to in my country allows us to bring phones, laptops, tablets, and so on. I even have a photo printer in my room, but obviously no strings, sharps etc. or anything similar is allowed.

 

[misanthropemurder]

We all have our reasons, but whatever ends up happening; I really hope you get the peace you deserve :)

 

[inferno34]

My caregivers usually check on me once an hour, but now after my last attempt, they've increased my observation level to twice an hour. I thought if they checked on me and then I immediately attempted suicide when they left- I'd have an entire hour to work with. That should be sufficient time for partial hanging to be successful.

I got really close. I got really fucking close. I just don't know what I was doing wrong.

Additionally, every single psych ward I've been to in my country allows us to bring phones, laptops, tablets, and so on. I even have a photo printer in my room, but obviously no strings, sharps etc. or anything similar is allowed.

in order to pass out, the carotid arteries in the neck need to be compressed so that blood does not send oxygen to the brain. and when theres no oxygen going to the brain, death occurs shortly after. if the arteries are not compressed, you will never pass out. Most people who fail full suspension or partial, fail because they are unable to close those arteries completely

 

[phem___]

in order to pass out, the carotid arteries in the neck need to be compressed so that blood does not send oxygen to the brain. and when theres no oxygen going to the brain, death occurs shortly after. if the arteries are not compressed, you will never pass out. Most people who fail full suspension or partial, fail because they are unable to close those arteries completely

how would you go about actually closing your arteries though?

 

[3FailedAttemptss]

in order to pass out, the carotid arteries in the neck need to be compressed so that blood does not send oxygen to the brain. and when theres no oxygen going to the brain, death occurs shortly after. if the arteries are not compressed, you will never pass out. Most people who fail full suspension or partial, fail because they are unable to close those arteries completely

I know blocking the carotids is the goal. I've tried gripping them with my hands and gotten close, but my hand spasms and I lose my grip before I actually pass out.

I just don't understand. I was leaning my entire body weight and then some into my T-shirt, which I had around my neck (gotta work with what I got here in the ward >w<). So is there something I'm missing, am I doing something wrong? I feel like I read up on all the literature around partial hanging.

Idk does the elasticity of what I have around my neck play a role? Because I tried hanging myself with my panties before and that didn't work (they're very stretchy), but with my T-shirt I got closer and that's not as stretchy.

 

[inferno34]

how would you go about actually closing your arteries though?

everyone's body is different, skinnier people find it easy. if you use your fingers and feel your neck just under your jaw, you would feel a pulse, thats where it is. in full suspension, it can be easily compressed because theres sheer force from the weight. but in partial hanging, theres not as much force, most people use a padding, like a folded sock or something to apply extra pressure on that area. I've seen recently that people are also using tourniquets

 

[phem___]

sorry im new to all this, is a full hanging and a partial hanging to do with there being a drop in a full hanging? do you still need to worry about perssure with a full hanging?

 

[EmptyBottle]

I'm surprised even those attempts were possible in there! (I'd not even try for risk of further observation and delays in leaving)
I assumed psych wards had 24/7 monitored CCTV that the patient can't practically get out of range alone. Either way, with a laptop and/or phone I'd probably try and pass time online if I somehow arrive there.

 

[inferno34]

I know blocking the carotids is the goal. I've tried gripping them with my hands and gotten close, but my hand spasms and I lose my grip before I actually pass out.

I just don't understand. I was leaning my entire body weight and then some into my T-shirt, which I had around my neck (gotta work with what I got here in the ward >w<). So is there something I'm missing, am I doing something wrong? I feel like I read up on all the literature around partial hanging.

Idk does the elasticity of what I have around my neck play a role? Because I tried hanging myself with my panties before and that didn't work (they're very stretchy), but with my T-shirt I got closer and that's not as stretchy.

the stretchy material would be a factor, the artery is highly pressurized. according to research, you need at least 11lbs of pressure on each artery in order to lose consciousness. sometime you could used double that force, but only hurt your trachea and jugular and not reach the carotid properly, thats why some people use a padding to accommodate for that deeper area

sorry im new to all this, is a full hanging and a partial hanging to do with there being a drop in a full hanging? do you still need to worry about perssure with a full hanging?

There's many factors involved, there is a hanging mega thread on here with all the answers

How to hang yourself

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sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[3FailedAttemptss]

the stretchy material would be a factor, the artery is highly pressurized. according to research, you need at least 11lbs of pressure on each artery in order to lose consciousness. sometime you could used double that force, but only hurt your trachea and jugular and not reach the carotid properly, thats why some people use a padding to accommodate for that deeper area

Interesting, I guess I'll try with the padding, but yeah, last time I could definitely feel that there was a lot of pressure being applied to my jugular and trachea.

Is it just possible that some people don't have the correct anatomy for partial hanging? Because at this point, it's something I've tried a good number of times and haven't gotten anywhere with it.

 

[inferno34]

Interesting, I guess I'll try with the padding, but yeah, last time I could definitely feel that there was a lot of pressure being applied to my jugular and trachea.

Is it just possible that some people don't have the correct anatomy for partial hanging? Because at this point, it's something I've tried a good number of times and haven't gotten anywhere with it.

How long more would you be staying there? if i were you, i would do as "EMPTYBOTTLE" suggests, just pass the time by using your phone and laptop, don't give them reasons for keeping you longer. once you're free again, then you can make your plan with a clear mind.

 

[3FailedAttemptss]

How long more would you be staying there? if i were you, i would do as "EMPTYBOTTLE" suggests, just pass the time by using your phone and laptop, don't give them reasons for keeping you longer. once you're free again, then you can make your plan with a clear mind.

I've already been here for nearly two months tryna pass the time, and I don't see myself being discharged anytime soon. It's just hard- I don't think my life is worth living and just going on seems so pointless. It's like we're just delaying the inevitable.

My psychiatrist here really is taking things seriously- I like her a lot and it's a nice change of pace from all the other psych wards I've been in where people don't really care. We've tried and keep trying a lot of different treatment options (electroshock, benzos and some antidepressants), so I don't see any end in sight, but I'm down to play ball with them. I mean nothing we've tried so far has helped. I just still wanna fucking kill myself and if someone gave me a gun - I'd shoot myself in a heartbeat.

I have also said that when I'm discharged, I will kill myself, so maybe I've shot myself in the foot. I don't know what mental illnesses I have, but I am just honest to a fault. I've let my caretakers read through my journal so yeah maybe that's stupid of me but I just don't wanna be misunderstood even though it doesn't really work towards the goal of me killing myself.

I guess that's why I'd just be nice if there was a method that would work for me while I'm in the psych ward.

 

[EmptyBottle]

I've already been here for nearly two months tryna pass the time, and I don't see myself being discharged anytime soon. It's just hard- I don't think my life is worth living and just going on seems so pointless. It's like we're just delaying the inevitable.

My psychiatrist here really is taking things seriously- I like her a lot and it's a nice change of pace from all the other psych wards I've been in where people don't really care. We've tried and keep trying a lot of different treatment options (electroshock, benzos and some antidepressants), so I don't see any end in sight, but I'm down to play ball with them. I mean nothing we've tried so far has helped. I just still wanna fucking kill myself and if someone gave me a gun - I'd shoot myself in a heartbeat.

I have also said that when I'm discharged, I will kill myself, so maybe I've shot myself in the foot. I don't know what mental illnesses I have, but I am just honest to a fault. I've let my caretakers read through my journal so yeah maybe that's stupid of me but I just don't wanna be misunderstood even though it doesn't really work towards the goal of me killing myself.

I guess that's why I'd just be nice if there was a method that would work for me while I'm in the psych ward.

oh no, 2 months :| that is too long, and is more comparable to what goes on in immigration detention 'hotels'.
As for making those claims, it still doesn't mean you will never be out. Insurance doesn't give unlimited cash for unlimited ward stays, and wards might want to get new people in and out so that their stats of "people we dealt with" can go up.

Maybe create a nice imagined world if possible, and refer back to it... maybe it will help you both with leaving, and feeling better. In an imagined world, lots of stuff can be edited in and out of existence.

Spoiler: complex

I imagined some spiral lift that spins a sphere at 45000km/h to get it up to the clouds into 'my world'*, a place where people can relax. now, the imagination has edited to merely pressing a button to enter a control room with blue controls

* All those years ago, I didn't know about the deadly centrifugal forces, and the destructive power of going around few meter glass like tubing so fast, and somehow didn't imagine a more direct, upward route at a safer speed

 

[Paizen]

OK, so I'm still in the psych ward, and yes, I know I've tried to kill myself by a partial hanging in here before >w< but yesterday was a really, really bad day, and I couldn't even get out of bed. I haven't had anything to eat in over two days, so things were just bad. But as I was lying in my bed, I was thinking, "How could I kill myself in here?" because there are door handles to the restroom- I have leaned my entire body weight off of these door handles, so I know they're strong and can support me. They're sort of like hooks, so I've tried with my panties around the door handle and around my neck, and that got me nowhere.

So yesterday I thought that I would try with a T-shirt since maybe my panties are too elastic, and the T-shirt is thick stiffer sort of fabric or not as elastic. I got really, really close- my first try, my vision and hearing started going, I started feeling tingly and shaking and then nothing. I thought those were my last seconds and then nothing; i'm still alive. I kept trying for like over an hour with no success. I didn't even come as close, so I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I positioned the T-shirt such that it was like above my Adam's apple. Is that too high, or should I put it somewhere else?

They've got me all doped up on a ton of different medications now because my contact person walked in on me trying to hang myself, but I'm still compelled to try.

I don't see the point of waiting any longer, so if I could just figure out what made that first attempt successful and why did all my other many, many attempts like not work?

Your first attempt was not successful, or even close to. You need to eat something. The human brain cannot formulate thoughts or make good decisions while malnourished. It's a very sad situation you are in. You need to escape the psych ward. That should be your number one priority, not killing yourself.