Help failed fent attempt - help me!

[nottinghams]

so I just want to warn: I am not trying to freak anybody out. What went wrong with my ctb is a unique situation. I wasn't even revived with Narcan.

It seemed perfect. I had seven syringes, all topped with water mixed in with my whole spread of fentanyl. 700 mg. Each syringe has 3 mL of liquid in it.

I considered the possibility that it was impure. A test strip I did revealed that it was actually fent for sure. I didn't consider how impure it could be.

I was told the lowest in most cases was 10%. So 10% pure fentanyl in 700 mg of powder equals 70 mg in strength. This is more than enough to kill a person.

I had used some of my stash previously to test and even to gain some relief. I sort of felt some relief, but it did take more than I thought to get there. It was surprising, considering fentanyl's lethality.

I thought, even if my leftover stash only equal 7 mg of fentanyl in power (if it had 1% purity that is) that would still be more than enough.

I stuck all seven syringes into my leg at once and pushed the plungers as fast as I could. I did not go immediately unconscious. It took about five minutes to even feel anything. about 10 minutes after that to feel so tired I couldn't lift my head.

If I was dying, I would've had two hours left alone. Which is plenty of time to be alone and not be revived with Narcan. But I was not even revived with narcan. after those two hours were up people found me and awakened me from sleeping. They awakened me naturally, they had no idea I tried to use fentanyl to ctb. After that I vomited several times, was terribly dreary and had difficulty walking, so they called the ambulance. I was delivered to the hospital and asked questions, even about my mental health. I lied and said I took away too much Adderall, for fun, not to kill myself. Nobody has any idea I tried to kill myself with fentanyl with those syringes.

I keep thinking back to when I had to use a little more than necessary (fentanyl) To feel barely anything, and that was just recreationally.

Since I wasn't even revived with Narcan, and just awakened normally, I wonder what went wrong with my suicide?

I'm terrified. I desperately want to use fentanyl to ctb.

did I somehow not use enough? was the purity really that bad? was it actually fentanyl? is there anything wrong with MY body?

some of the mods on this forum have tried to assure me that there is a solution to this and I can still use fentanyl to suicide, i don't have to find something different. and I am inclined to agree. The problem with my method seems fixable.

Now I invite other users to explore with me, what went wrong and perhaps help me fix it. It was very distraughting when I was woken up. I am scared and want to still be able to suicide with this method.

Please help me (if you can)

 

[Marine]

I feel you.

During my last attempt I took 6 times the lethal dose of the equivalent of dramamine and still woke up 2 days later after being left alone the whole time... I have no idea what happened, it just seemed like I convulsed all over my apartment and broke a lot of stuff while unconscious but other than that no doctor could explain why I didn't die (my organs were failing when I was carried to the ICU after asking someone to help me fix the broken things in my apartment but not the way the drug is supposed to act at all) so bodies are weird sometimes... Unless maybe we vomited during our unconscious time I have no idea why either of us isn't dead.

I don't know much about Fentanyl, I would like to know a route to purchase some, but maybe the leg shot isn't the most reliable, if it's supposed to be injected in the veins maybe using your arms would work better ? Is water supposed to be used with it ?

 

[nottinghams]

I just need to add that narcan was not needed because I was awakened naturally. Just needed to clarify

 

[opheliaoveragain]

Do you have a tolerance to other opioids? I think tranq may be your culprit, it's truly messing shit up so bad.

Xylazine (also called "tranq" or "tranq dope") is a non-opioid sedative or tranquilizer.****

You can buy test strips for this additive. I had a long run when tranq first came around, it absolutely ruined my F using and its fucking everywhere right now.

 

[escape_from_hell]

Is fent still lethal if the injections are intramuscular? With seven stuck in your leg location may matter.
Thank you for sharing. I will definitely be getting thousands of dollars worth of a variety of nitazines and other hardcore stuff from the darknet I guess just as a precaution.
Isn't fent supposed to be deadlier combined with benzos, alcohol etc?

Again thanks for sharing, it sounds like such a dream method just get lit on benzos and alcohol and fent into a dark bliss but those of us who want to die it seems nature fucks with and torments us while life lovers look at fentanyl and die from a particle of it touching them.

 

[ham and potatoes]

Is fent still lethal if the injections are intramuscular? With seven stuck in your leg location may matter.
Thank you for sharing. I will definitely be getting thousands of dollars worth of a variety of nitazines and other hardcore stuff from the darknet I guess just as a precaution.
Isn't fent supposed to be deadlier combined with benzos, alcohol etc?

Again thanks for sharing, it sounds like such a dream method just get lit on benzos and alcohol and fent into a dark bliss but those of us who want to die it seems nature fucks with and torments us while life lovers look at fentanyl and die from a particle of it touching them.

thats what im wondering. ive heard of iv and smoking, but never intramuscular

 

[nottinghams]

thats what im wondering. ive heard of iv and smoking, but never intramuscular

IM is supposed to work just as well as IV. Look it up. The bio-availability is pretty much the same.

IV can also deliver it way too quickly, meaning you do not die.

Again thanks for sharing, it sounds like such a dream method just get lit on benzos and alcohol and fent into a dark bliss but those of us who want to die it seems nature fucks with and torments us while life lovers look at fentanyl and die from a particle of it touching them.

I just do not know what happened. You're right, science proves the lethality of fentanyl. There is no arguing it.
So there must be a discrepancy in my method. (I 'messed up' somehow) I'm just searching for someone who would know what that would be. So I can adjust it and try it again...

 

[uglyugly]

Is fent still lethal if the injections are intramuscular? With seven stuck in your leg location may matter.
Thank you for sharing. I will definitely be getting thousands of dollars worth of a variety of nitazines and other hardcore stuff from the darknet I guess just as a precaution.
Isn't fent supposed to be deadlier combined with benzos, alcohol etc?

Again thanks for sharing, it sounds like such a dream method just get lit on benzos and alcohol and fent into a dark bliss but those of us who want to die it seems nature fucks with and torments us while life lovers look at fentanyl and die from a particle of it touching them.

Agreed! Those of us who want to die from methods that should be fatal cannot, it seems. But a family member of mine died from a small amount of fentanyl and he was in no way trying to ctb. I don't know why that is.

 

[xandermax]

10% fentanyl with 90% cut is way too strong for a street cut. That would be killing customers.

I think your dealer may have overestimated his maths a bit

A strong pain killing dose of fentanyl is 50mcg (MICROgrams) per kg body weight. So if you're 50kg, that's just 2.5 MILLIgrams. Most street deals are around 0.1g or 100mg. If your fent was 10%, just one dose would have been enough and would have killed most people who use it.

Retail dealers rarely cut their own stuff, so whoever you asked probably pulled a number out of his arse.

I myself tried to CTB with a heroin and benzo overdose in 2013. I just passed out and woke up a day later with some mild memory deficits.

Opioids are not great to CTB. In my case, I wonder if using them is giving me a reason to live, strangely.

 

[nottinghams]

@xandermax
why would opioids be not good to CTB? There is science on how dangerous they can be to people. Maybe if you have a tolerance you have to worry, but if you're like me with no tolerance, I should be dead. So that means there's something else wrong.
I ended up speaking with one of the mods on this forum who says I can still use the same method, just have to fix it.
My 'dealer' did not tell me anything about its purity at all, nor did the reviews.
I tested it with fentanyl test strips, and there was definitely fentanyl in there.
The 10% thing I just got from someone who was trying to help me estimate the purity before I shot the drug.
What exactly are you trying to say here? That my drug was impure, or that it was never strong enough to kill me?
This is really important information. If I want to ever suicide at all I need to fix what went wrong.

(I made this thread because I need help from people here so I can fix what went wrong and CTB..)

 

[ham and potatoes]

Idk, fent/ opioids will probably be my way if I can't get better. I just don't know where to source it. Street is going to be awful quality, and although I know how to use the dark web, im afraid to order off of it, because of all the ways it could go wrong

 

[xandermax]

I'm just saying your 10% estimate was off by a few orders of magnitude. You likely needed more fentanyl.

Also most opioid overdoses are poly drug, so they also in the vast majority of cases have benzos on board (think xanax, klonopin, diazepam / Valium etc). These are often mixed with the opioid by the user for the added effect, but make it very easy to OD.

Just to balance my conscience at providing this information, have you thought of just taking the fentanyl in regular doses and forgetting about your problems for a few hours at a time? The poppy was put on the earth for people like us. Then again, not everyone likes them like I do.

 

[nottinghams]

@xandermax

I have (thought about that and nodding off) but before I ever used fentanyl, I only thought about using less potent opioids for relief, because I didn't want to accidentally take some fentanyl for relief, mess up, and not die unfortunately.

I wish I could PM you. You probably don't have that unlocked yet.
I'm a tad confused. When you say that, I probably needed more fentanyl, do you mean to say that I shot a very very low purity sample to ctb? like 0.1% or something? I'm sorry, I'm not experienced in this sort of thing. Are you saying my dealer 'scammed' me with a barely-fentanyl drug?

Then what do you propose I do? If you don't mind me asking. I've still got the place I ordered from before.
And do you think I HAVE to mix the fentanyl with a large dose of another drug? like is it necessary? I apologize if that's a stupid question.

 

[xandermax]

Honestly I can't comment on potency of your fentanyl because there's just too many variables.

But going by your symptoms you DID have an opioid overdose, it just wasn't fatal. This is evidenced by your need to be hospitalized.

If i were you, I would take 1.5x previous dose but ALSO (very important) take some benzodiazepines half an hour prior. Think 30mg of Valium or something equivalent.

Actually, I take that back. If I were you, I'd just use the fentanyl and keep going at it until i run out of money, end up in withdrawals and then feel suicidal... Again. But hey at least there's plenty of buses so letting a few more pass by is no loss.

If you're serious though, which it sounds like you are, have someone take your cat(s) off your hands because you don't want them to eat you after you CTB (just a fellow cat lover and yes i did stalk one of your old photos)

 

[nottinghams]

Honestly I can't comment on potency of your fentanyl because there's just too many variables.

But going by your symptoms you DID have an opioid overdose, it just wasn't fatal. This is evidenced by your need to be hospitalized.

If i were you, I would take 1.5x previous dose but ALSO (very important) take some benzodiazepines half an hour prior.

Actually, I take that back. If I were you, I'd just use the fentanyl and keep going at it until i run out of money, end up in withdrawals and then feel suicidal... Again. But hey at least there's plenty of buses so letting a few more pass by is no loss.

What? Why would I do that? I'm not hopeless, I'm getting out of here by dying.
vague answers are not going to help me. What if I misunderstand what you say and mess up?
do you want me to take 1.5x the previous dose? That was 700 mg of fentanyl (in some kind of purity) in 24 mL total of water.
So what do you mean take 1.5 times the previous dose?
Do you just want me to order heaps more of fentanyl without caring about the purity + heaps more syringes so I can ensure I use enough?
or do you also want me to look for and purchase a sample of fentanyl with a higher purity I can be certain of the number? Then you have to tell me what I should look for.
I do not mean to be rude or anything, I just need to have firm understanding of this information or I shall mess up again. It sounds like you're saying the only problem was not using enough fentanyl/high enough purity of fentanyl.
If that is true that is incredibly relieving as it is a very easy problem to solve.
But I definitely need to be sure of what you're saying if you're offering me a solution.
I appreciate it, by the way.

 

[xandermax]

If you took 30mg diazepam or equivalent of another benzo (Klonopin, Xanax, Mogadon, Etizolam etc) 30 minutes prior to your injection, I firmly believe you would have died already. They're really the missing key to your puzzle.

On top of that, it can't hurt to increase your fentanyl dose by 50%.

But like I've said multiple times, you need benzos plus an opioid to have a fatal overdose. And a place you won't be disturbed for a couple of hours at least.
Also, I'm not a fentanyl user, so I'm no expert. I'm a heroin user, but I've seen and been around a lot of overdoses and every one I know who died had pills (benzos) in their system as well.

 

[nottinghams]

If you took 30mg diazepam or equivalent of another benzo (Klonopin, Xanax, Mogadon, Etizolam etc) 30 minutes prior to your injection, I firmly believe you would have died already. They're really the missing key to your puzzle.

On top of that, it can't hurt to increase your fentanyl dose by 50%.

But like I've said multiple times, you need benzos plus an opioid to have a fatal overdose. And a place you won't be disturbed for a couple of hours at least.

so if ive got you correct what went wrong was not having enough/pure enough fentanyl and that I didn't combine it with another drug?
and you're not saying 'oh go find a sample more pure that reviewers confirm is pure' you're just saying purchase any sample from any dealer but in larger quantities?

So then I bought a gram last time. how much should I buy this time? 2 grams? 3? should I shoot it all? mix it evenly with water in syringes in my thigh again?
and buy at least 30mg of a benzo? pill form?
i just need to make sure.

 

[astr4]

I had used some of my stash previously to test and even to gain some relief. I sort of felt some relief, but it did take more than I thought to get there. It was surprising, considering fentanyl's lethality

is tolerance or cross-tolerance a possibility? do you use any other drugs?

 

[genoke]

so I just want to warn: I am not trying to freak anybody out. What went wrong with my ctb is a unique situation. I wasn't even revived with Narcan.

It seemed perfect. I had seven syringes, all topped with water mixed in with my whole spread of fentanyl. 700 mg. Each syringe has 3 mL of liquid in it.

I considered the possibility that it was impure. A test strip I did revealed that it was actually fent for sure. I didn't consider how impure it could be.

I was told the lowest in most cases was 10%. So 10% pure fentanyl in 700 mg of powder equals 70 mg in strength. This is more than enough to kill a person.

I had used some of my stash previously to test and even to gain some relief. I sort of felt some relief, but it did take more than I thought to get there. It was surprising, considering fentanyl's lethality.

I thought, even if my leftover stash only equal 7 mg of fentanyl in power (if it had 1% purity that is) that would still be more than enough.

I stuck all seven syringes into my leg at once and pushed the plungers as fast as I could. I did not go immediately unconscious. It took about five minutes to even feel anything. about 10 minutes after that to feel so tired I couldn't lift my head.

If I was dying, I would've had two hours left alone. Which is plenty of time to be alone and not be revived with Narcan. But I was not even revived with narcan. after those two hours were up people found me and awakened me from sleeping. They awakened me naturally, they had no idea I tried to use fentanyl to ctb. After that I vomited several times, was terribly dreary and had difficulty walking, so they called the ambulance. I was delivered to the hospital and asked questions, even about my mental health. I lied and said I took away too much Adderall, for fun, not to kill myself. Nobody has any idea I tried to kill myself with fentanyl with those syringes.

I keep thinking back to when I had to use a little more than necessary (fentanyl) To feel barely anything, and that was just recreationally.

Since I wasn't even revived with Narcan, and just awakened normally, I wonder what went wrong with my suicide?

I'm terrified. I desperately want to use fentanyl to ctb.

did I somehow not use enough? was the purity really that bad? was it actually fentanyl? is there anything wrong with MY body?

some of the mods on this forum have tried to assure me that there is a solution to this and I can still use fentanyl to suicide, i don't have to find something different. and I am inclined to agree. The problem with my method seems fixable.

Now I invite other users to explore with me, what went wrong and perhaps help me fix it. It was very distraughting when I was woken up. I am scared and want to still be able to suicide with this method.

Please help me (if you can)

Get a better dealer.... (?) It clearly wasn't enough fentayl... (?) Why not just load good heroin in a syringe you don't have the tolerance for you'll be dead immediately.

If you took 30mg diazepam or equivalent of another benzo (Klonopin, Xanax, Mogadon, Etizolam etc) 30 minutes prior to your injection, I firmly believe you would have died already. They're really the missing key to your puzzle.

On top of that, it can't hurt to increase your fentanyl dose by 50%.

But like I've said multiple times, you need benzos plus an opioid to have a fatal overdose. And a place you won't be disturbed for a couple of hours at least.
Also, I'm not a fentanyl user, so I'm no expert. I'm a heroin user, but I've seen and been around a lot of overdoses and every one I know who died had pills (benzos) in their system as well.

Benzos aren't used as suicide drugs... they literally replaced barbiturates with benzos cuz so many people were OD'ing. Been on 6mg of klonopin for 20 years.

The only thing that truly destroys all motor function is alcohol and benzos.

They're a puzzle piece maybe but don't start saying benzos are a suicide or OD drug because they aren't.

You do not need benzos to die from fentanyl.

Get better fentayl.

How are you a heroin addict who has never tried fentanyl by now? As a heroin addict you should know he doesn't need benzos. He just stick a needle in his arm with no tolerance and Philip Seymour Hoffman himself.

 

[nottinghams]

Get a better dealer.... (?) It clearly wasn't fentayl...

Benzos aren't used as suicide drugs... they literally replaced barbiturates with benzos cuz so many people were OD'ing. Been on 6mg of klonopin for 20 years.

The only thing that truly destroys all motor function is alcohol and benzos.

They're a puzzle piece maybe but don't start saying benzos are a suicide or OD drug because they aren't.

You do not need benzos to die from fentanyl.

..then what do I need? starting to feel a little hopeless here..

and it was fentanyl. at least a little bit. I used a test strip (positive/negative) which tested positive for there being fent in the sample. I can't speak to purity its true (could be like 0.001% fentanyl) but then what do you want me to do..?

is tolerance or cross-tolerance a possibility? do you use any other drugs?

nope. no other drugs use.

is tolerance or cross-tolerance a possibility? do you use any other drugs?

nope. no other drugs use.
there isn't the possibility there's something wrong with my body? that would cause drugs to have less strength. if i had a disease/condition or something.

 

[genoke]

Did you ask a dealer for fentanyl or heroin....? Fentanyl dealers exist? There are just fentaynl addicts running around?

Why don't you just use heroin? If you can get fetanyl you can get guns heroin whatever you need.

You already know what you did wrong and admitted it was less potent than you thought but you chose to take the risk.

Get better stuff next time. Listen to your instincts.

'So I scored fentayl. Didn't really get me high much. I knew it wasn't strong. I went for it anyway." If all you did was wake up and puke you did not OD on anything and hospital believed you were on Adderall you didn't od on anything. And they would have found fentayl in your bloodstream. And known you were lying about Adderall.

Keep your private conversations with mods private for the safety of this website.

 

[xandermax]

I would go the same source because at least you know you're not getting completely ripped off. Just increase your dose by 50%.

And benzos, yes very important. Get a sheet of 8-10 5mg Valium and swallow 4 of them (assuming no benzo tolerance) 30 mins prior. You want to take enough to push your OD over the the edge, but not so much you're too unconscious to inject the fentanyl. So have everything ready to go before you swallow the benzos.

Alternatively, send me everything instead because. Well. I'm an addict.

 

[nottinghams]

Did you ask a dealer for fentanyl or heroin....? Fentanyl dealers exist?

they do. black market. (darkweb)

 

[xandermax]

In response to Genoke.

Because I'm fortunately from a country where we get consistent supply of no4 China white from SE Asia.

And if you read literature on overdoses on heroin from the coroner (also from my country), you'll read that it clearly stipulates the vast majority of opioid deaths have benzos on board as well.

 

[genoke]

In response to Genoke.

Because I'm fortunately from a country where we get consistent supply of no4 China white from SE Asia.

And if you read the peaceful pill handbook (also from my country), you'll read that it clearly stipulates you need benzos to augment opioids if you want to use opioids to die.

Or you could just stick good heroin in your arm far above your tolerance an entire syringe and that's game over.

You do not need benzos to die from heroin OD. It might help. If you're doing it right you'll be dead before the needle leaves your arm like Hoffman.

In the show After Life with Ricky Gervais he asks him why keep living? Homeless guy goes "I can't afford enough heroin to kill me" so Ricky gives him a handful of cash to go end his life with. And he immediately does.

You were using tiny 1% trace amounts of fentanyl. One bump of pure fentanyl you're ice cold dead. You had 7 syringes and didn't even go unconcious. Suicide by fentanyl. Just use better stuff next time. And follow common sense and your instincts. If it doesn't get you high.... (it's not fentanyl).

Sorry for being rude I'm nervous about my own attempt coming and I'm waking up in pools of sweat. Truly sorry your thought out attempt didn't work. I know how emotionally overwhelming that is. Good luck man. You already know what you did wrong. You bought bad stuff.

 

[xandermax]

Insights Into Mixing Fentanyl and Benzodiazepines From Canadian Drug Seizures

This cohort study uses data from the Drug Analysis Service of Health Canada to describe changes in the presence of benzodiazepines mixed with fentanyl in drug seizures in Canada from 2018 to 2021.

jamanetwork.com

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/28/showbiz/philip-seymour-hoffman-autopsy/index.html#:~:text=Actor%20Philip%20Seymour%20Hoffman%2C%20who,medical%20examiner's%20office%20said%20Friday.

 

[nottinghams]

Or you could just stick good heroin in your arm far above your tolerance an entire syringe and that's game over.

You do not need benzos to die from heroin OD. It might help. If you're doing it right you'll be dead before the needle leaves your arm like Hoffman.

In the show After Life with Ricky Gervais he asks him why keep living? Homeless guy goes "I can't afford enough heroin to kill me" so Ricky gives him a handful of cash to go end his life with. And he immediately does.

You were using tiny 1% trace amounts of fentanyl. One bump of pure fentanyl you're ice cold dead. You had 7 syringes and didn't even go unconcious. Suicide by fentanyl. Just use better stuff next time. And follow common sense and your instincts. If he doesn't get you high, It is very obviously not legit and not going to kill you.

I appreciate you discussing this for me. But what is it you are suggesting @genoke ?
I would definitely agree with what you're saying about
'if you use enough, it will kill you anyway'
But then I don't know what the problem was when I injected 700 mg of (some kind of purity) fentanyl in 24 mL of water amongst seven syringes.
I would like to know then what you're saying I should do to ensure it works? My guess is you're talking about the purity and the amount being the problems specifically.
then @xandermax
you're not saying I didn't die and wouldn't be able to die without co-mixing are you?
That people don't usually die unless they mix?
If that's true, I'll do what you said I should do before (buying a higher amount of fentanyl regardless of quality)
And by like a benzo or something, but would you have any specific recommendations? Should I get them in pill form?

 

[xandermax]

At the end of the day, I'm kinda pleased if my advice isn't taken

 

[genoke]

I appreciate you discussing this for me. But what is it you are suggesting @genoke ?
I would definitely agree with what you're saying about
'if you use enough, it will kill you anyway'
But then I don't know what the problem was when I injected 700 mg of (some kind of purity) fentanyl in 24 mL of water amongst seven syringes.
I would like to know then what you're saying I should do to ensure it works? My guess is you're talking about the purity and the amount being the problems specifically.
then @xandermax
you're not saying I didn't die and wouldn't be able to die without co-mixing are you?
That people don't usually die unless they mix?
If that's true, I'll do what you said I should do before (buying a higher amount of fentanyl regardless of quality)
And by like a benzo or something, but would you have any specific recommendations? Should I get them in pill form?

Benzos are pills....

If you go out and buy more of the same stuff and add Xanax you'll still fail. You don't have a real fentany source right now. Adding benzos would not have changed your attempt because they didn't even need narcan to wake you up. You just woke up and threw up.

Please change your source for drugs if you want this method. Find fentatnyl that gets you wasted before another attempt. What's the worst thing that could happen? You OD? There is nothing benzos will do your body alcohol won't do the exact same way. They affect the exact same region of the brain. But if you combine alcohol and benzos you won't be able to sit in a chair without falling to the ground, much less get needles in your arm the right way.

 

[nottinghams]

@genoke
'find fentanyl that gets me wasted first'
and then what will that feel like/how will i know?
What am I looking for?

you say change your source for drugs, I assume you mean fentanyl. Well, the system I have to purchase from is a website offshoot of the black market with many different dealers. Each dealer sells their drug individually.
Now I'll guess that's still OK (test strips still tested positive for it in my powder) What should I be looking for when I browse the listings?
I still don't know if you're saying that my only problem was that I didn't get enough, or the purity was really low, or both. But if you want me to look for purity, you have to tell me what to look for.
They usually sell by the gram.