Discussion Facing the same lessons again?

[Hunter2005]

Do you guys here that stupid theory if you commit suicide, you will have to face the same lesson again that pushed you over the edge? Like I'll be darned if I have to face my same situation again.

 

[sserafim]

I've heard this as well, but hopefully I don't get reincarnated again. I'm just fundamentally unfit for this world due to Asperger's/autism. I wonder if there's any past life cause of this…

 

[tbroken]

Do you guys here that stupid theory if you commit suicide, you will have to face the same lesson again that pushed you over the edge? Like I'll be darned if I have to face my same situation again.

We are in 2024, listen to science not to these stupid things.

 

[theboy]

I do not believe in reincarnation

 

[Homo erectus]

I don't understand how this theory works. There must be something different to make a different exit possible. If not, it would be just the same journey happening again, an endless loop. What's different, personality, family, health, society? Then is it the same person reliving it again?

 

[_Minsk]

I would Like to believe that but then i think about the countless insects and Worms that live in this world. Just think about all the bacteria which also seem to be alive, how can so many separate souls exist? And then its just Planet earth

 

[FuneralCry]

No, anything like that is completely fictional to me. I believe death to simply be the absence of everything, once we lose consciousness that is it for us, we are gone, it comforts me to think of permanently ceasing to exist.

 

[Lunaloveflood]

Yes all the time and it kinda exaust me
it's one of the reason why i'm trying to stay alive but it's also so masochist of me to hold on to that thought even in my darkest moment It's like i'm always judging myself responsible for my reactions to the injustice i'm living In a way i am but i'm also only human and i don't always know how to cope

 

[Linda]

I see no evidence for reincarnation, so I don't believe in reincarnation. I didn't reach that conclusion lightly. I put a lot of effort into investigating the topic in my late teens and early twenties.

 

[TiredOfAllThis]

Do you guys here that stupid theory if you commit suicide, you will have to face the same lesson again that pushed you over the edge? Like I'll be darned if I have to face my same situation again.

Or dodge that crap entirely. I would want it to be true.

 

[divinemistress36]

I've heard that but not as a punishment but because your soul wants to try to learn the lesson over. Nobody knows maybe we will find out when we die

 

[sserafim]

I've heard that but not as a punishment but because your soul wants to try to learn the lesson over. Nobody knows maybe we will find out when we die

How are you even supposed to know what the lesson is though?

 

[divinemistress36]

How are you even supposed to know what the lesson is though?

Good question

 

[MyChoiceAlone]

not heard of this but sort of like catholics saying you'd go straight to hell? didn't religion start in the middle east? lots of terrorists there and they'll tell you that if you strap a bomb on yourself and killed some enemies, you'd be going to heaven and be granted a harem of virgins.

someone said something about living the same life in order to learn some lesson. same life? how would that be done? would everyone in your current life living or deceased be dragged away from what they were doing just for you to learn that lesson?

 

[R_N]

What exactly are we supposed to learn?

 

[DreamEnd]

We are in 2024, listen to science not to these stupid things.

science has never been the end all be all of what there is to the world we live in and beyond

 

[sserafim]

What exactly are we supposed to learn?

The fact that we don't even know what we're supposed to learn leads me to believe that this world might be a prison planet. If earth were really a school, we'd know what we have to learn

 

[R_N]

The fact that we don't even know what we're supposed to learn leads me to believe that this world might be a prison planet. If earth were really a school, we'd know what we have to learn

What if we leave this planet, are we still in prison?

 

[lebrodude]

We are in 2024, listen to science not to these stupid things.

To be fair science can't tell you anything about what occurs after death (if anything) apart from the decomposition of the body.

Only sure thing is we will all find out when we die. Unless there is nothing, in which case we won't know anyway.

I don't understand how this theory works. There must be something different to make a different exit possible. If not, it would be just the same journey happening again, an endless loop. What's different, personality, family, health, society? Then is it the same person reliving it again?

I had a dream (well nightmare is probably a better description) that we live our lives over and over again for eternity.

Now I wouldn't be totally against that idea if we had some sort of free will or perhaps the variables in a new incarnation were then changed. For example, if you were more intelligent, better looking, wiser.

However if it's just this same identical life with identical choices….hard pass.

I'd even maybe have to pass on the first option too as that opens up the possibility of infinite amount of worse lives than the current one.

Yeah maybe non existence is the way to go!

 

[sserafim]

What if we leave this planet, are we still in prison?

Not sure actually. I think that if you escape the soul trap, you go back home to where you really came from (nobody knows where that is, probably somewhere in the galaxy or universe?)

 

[Ovid]

No, you have 1 life

 

[Homo erectus]

I don't think this would happen. I was reading some posts on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/ which made me think that this world (civilization) had not been around for a very long (less than 200 years). By around 2030, when AI becomes mature and takes over, it will be end time for this world. A new world will begin (at a scale equivalent to the second coming of Jesus). The current human form will be unsuitable and extinct. Our present knowledge and worries will be irrelevant. Life, if exists at all, will be completely different.There will be no "same lesson" to return to.

 

[offtoseethewizard]

I see no evidence for reincarnation, so I don't believe in reincarnation. I didn't reach that conclusion lightly. I put a lot of effort into investigating the topic in my late teens and early twenties.

You don't think certain past life memory stories with verification muddy the waters at least a little?

For sure most of them objectively seem to have holes due to dubious research practices. But to be completely sure it's all fufu…I can't quite get to that point

And I know children make things up all the time. But even still, some of the stories are pretty freaky

NDEs on the other hand…well I think Susan Blakemore's arguments actually put that one to bed for me pretty comprehensively

 

[Linda]

You don't think certain past life memory stories with verification muddy the waters at least a little?

For sure most of them objectively seem to have holes due to dubious research practices. But to be completely sure it's all fufu…I can't quite get to that point

And I know children make things up all the time. But even still, some of the stories are pretty freaky

NDEs on the other hand…well I think Susan Blakemore's arguments actually put that one to bed for me pretty comprehensively

I think I already answered your question. I have seen a lot of what passes for "evidence", and for those cases where it is possible to subject the "evidence" to close examination, it always proves to be nothing of the sort. I'm not going to give any credence to stories that can not be scrutinised closely.

 

[uzuf86]

Reincarnation? Not sure how that is possible.
I wasn't there in the last 2000 years so I don't even know how I got here. When I'm gone I'll settle back into nothingness, just like before I was born.

But again, to innocent people dying in wars and other natural calamities, their right to live gets stripped out of nowhere and they are forced to lose their chance forever. The only thing that makes it fair for them is reincarnation, if at all there is anything fair about nature.

 

[offtoseethewizard]

I think I already answered your question. I have seen a lot of what passes for "evidence", and for those cases where it is possible to subject the "evidence" to close examination, it always proves to be nothing of the sort. I'm not going to give any credence to stories that can not be scrutinised closely.

That's completely fair enough I think. And I'm more or less where you are as well, something's holding me just on the cusp though. Sigh. It'd be nice

 

[untothedepths]

I never heard of that theory and I already hate it. Whats the point in punishing me for 1. Having to handle situations I had no control over and 2. not remembering I CBT'd. It doesn't do me any good if I can't remember. And no, deva ju isn't strong enough of a feeling.