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whyidon'tknow

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Been toying with this idea. I imagine the biggest factor to overcome is SI. Between the time you make contact the train and you being dead is less than 5 seconds eh?,

Does anyone have any stories they can share? How strong is the SI compared to Hanging or other methods?

Thank you
 
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Walilamdzi

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I don't think that it's ethical due to the effect on the train driver and possible observers, and it seems like a fairly gruesome method to me...
 
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Dead beat dad

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Been toying with this idea. I imagine the biggest factor to overcome is SI. Between the time you make contact the train and you being dead is less than 5 seconds eh?,

Does anyone have any stories they can share? How strong is the SI compared to Hanging or other methods?

Thank you
From personal experience I would avoid this method
 
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Dead beat dad

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Can you be more elaborate?
Grandfather killed himself using this method. I had to help deal with the aftermath. Whilst I understand he was in an awful place, many did not, including the train driver who we saw as a broken man in the coroner's court following the incident.
CTB is never going to be easy on the nearest and dearest but this creates a large amount of 'collateral damage'
 
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Jessica5

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May 22, 2019
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There are plenty of people who have failed in train suicide attempts and ended up losing limbs.
 
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Jun 5, 2019
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Grandfather killed himself using this method. I had to help deal with the aftermath. Whilst I understand he was in an awful place, many did not, including the train driver who we saw as a broken man in the coroner's court following the incident.
CTB is never going to be easy on the nearest and dearest but this creates a large amount of 'collateral damage'
Thank you for this, think sometimes people reach a point where they are so out of it they can't help their actions, but suspect that's rare. I live right next to a railway bridge over a very fast deep river, with just scrub between my garden and the tracks and some days it feels overwhelmingly tempting. As ptsd has trashed my life would be unconscionable to risk giving that to someone else and stories like this remind me why I don't especially.
 
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Person

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May 29, 2019
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I maybe wrong, but I feel like people only chose this method out of sheer desperation. I don't think anyone really wants to traumatise another human being who is powerless to do anything other than close their eyes.
And I think, once you reach that utter desperation, you can't hear your survival instinct over it.
I believe there would be far fewer train and height suicides if euthanasia was more freely accessible. Its cruel to back such tormented, tired beings into such desperate resorts.
 
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Jessica5

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May 22, 2019
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I would plan on just putting my head on the tracks

That's probably about 100% certainty of success.

The problem is that about 0.0001% of people can overcome SI and actually do that.
 
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ManWithNoName

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Whilst I understand he was in an awful place, many did not, including the train driver who we saw as a broken man in the coroner's court following the incident.
Just to play devil's advocate : but the conductor could be putting on a bit of an act to get the maximum benefits from the train company's health insurance.

Jumping is part-and-parcel of being a conductor and the railroad companies are quite thorough about this with their employees.
 
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Faraway1990

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Jun 2, 2019
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Just to play devil's advocate : but the conductor could be putting on a bit of an act to get the maximum benefits from the train company's health insurance.

Jumping is part-and-parcel of being a conductor and the railroad companies are quite thorough about this with their employees.
Although that could be true and i know that's part of the training it's one thing to be told about it and a completely different thing to see it on the train your responsibile for you know?
 
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Idorus

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Apr 30, 2018
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That's probably about 100% certainty of success.

The problem is that about 0.0001% of people can overcome SI and actually do that.

Are there cases known of people having done that? Putting head on the rails...
It would be very tempting knowing I would be gone in a fraction! (an INSTANT death is so much better than any poison available)
 
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been_there

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Jun 5, 2019
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You really shouldn't do that to the driver. That's trauma for years for someone who wasn't trained (ha) for it.

After much research I've come around to these sort of brutal methods as OK if you're scraped up by professionals. Each to their own but I personally don't subscribe to all that slipping away quietly. I'm ending my life, that's as brutal as it gets.
 
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Idorus

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Apr 30, 2018
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I don't buy that eternal trauma sentiment for the train driver. In this chronological order I take care of:
A) Me myself on the very first place (I don't want to suffer)
B) My relatives (when coming to their senses and pondering about the amount of suffering I went through they should be relatively content with the method - an instant death in my opinion is key here whether that means an objective shattering of the body or not).
C) Witnesses who might be traumatized (never gave that a second thought)
 
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My point of view: I don't want to ruine the life of an uninvolved + the bereaved deserve the right to say goodbye - on a decent way !

Apart from this, you need balls of steel to stay cool when the train comes. The quake, the loud honk , one false move and you end up in a wheelchair or even worse. There are better opinions I guess
 
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ManWithNoName

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Feb 2, 2019
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Although that could be true and i know that's part of the training it's one thing to be told about it and a completely different thing to see it on the train your responsibile for you know?
Indeed. Combat training is different from actual combat. Thing is today that actual human life has no value to other humans - so someone ctb via train not as tragic.
 
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Dead beat dad

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Just to play devil's advocate : but the conductor could be putting on a bit of an act to get the maximum benefits from the train company's health insurance.

Jumping is part-and-parcel of being a conductor and the railroad companies are quite thorough about this with their employees.
Yeah maybe he was, doesn't change what we all lost
 
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