Exit Bag With Compromised Lungs

[77redbike]

I have somewhat compromised breathing (mild or early COPD) and am trying to decide if an exit bag will work. I would think it would if the bag is on the large side and there is not much leaking around the neck. I realize that each initial breath will be breathing in a lower amount of gas but I would think also exhaling a lower amount of CO2. If the bag is larger than normal and is initially filled with inert gas I would think that the per cent of oxygen would be lower and therefore could compensate for the lower breathing capacity. I'd appreciate any comments.

 

[58Alice85]

good luck, common problems seem to be the bag not being airtight and SI kicking in at the last moment and ripping it off

 

[sm1the]

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I have somewhat compromised breathing (mild or early COPD) and am trying to decide if an exit bag will work. I would think it would if the bag is on the large side and there is not much leaking around the neck. I realize that each initial breath will be breathing in a lower amount of gas but I would think also exhaling a lower amount of CO2. If the bag is larger than normal and is initially filled with inert gas I would think that the per cent of oxygen would be lower and therefore could compensate for the lower breathing capacity. I'd appreciate any

I have somewhat compromised breathing (mild or early COPD) and am trying to decide if an exit bag will work. I would think it would if the bag is on the large side and there is not much leaking around the neck. I realize that each initial breath will be breathing in a lower amount of gas but I would think also exhaling a lower amount of CO2. If the bag is larger than normal and is initially filled with inert gas I would think that the per cent of oxygen would be lower and therefore could compensate for the lower breathing capacity. I'd appreciate any comments.

Did you happen to get anywhere with your search for info with this by any chance?.
I too have COPD,doing N2 so concerned with what's been said in books etc.

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

good luck, common problems seem to be the bag not being airtight and SI kicking in at the last moment and ripping it off

The bag CANNOT be airtight, that would result in failure.

 

[sm1the]

B

The bag CANNOT be airtight, that would result in failure.

Its not meant to be air tight.
If it's air tight it wouldn't be good for ppl without COPD either.

 

[ipmanwc0]

Should still work, if your lungs can't get oxygen, doesn't matter what they're like

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

B

Its not meant to be air tight.
If it's air tight it wouldn't be good for ppl without COPD either.

Exactly. That is what I wrote. Thank you for reiterating.

Should still work, if your lungs can't get oxygen, doesn't matter what they're like

False. Those who have read the PPH know otherwise.

D

Did you happen to get anywhere with your search for info with this by any chance?.
I too have COPD,doing N2 so concerned with what's been said in books etc.

The PPH says to get a spirometry test to measure lung function before choosing this method. I'm trying to envision how a larger bag would make a difference and I'm not following your logic on that, particularly bc the bottom
Will be snug but not sealed regardless. Best of luck to you whatever you choose.

 

[TheEmptyVoid]

Will be snug but not sealed regardless.

Because of continuous gas flow or what?

 

[sm1the]

Exactly. That is what I wrote. Thank you for reiterating.

False. Those who have read the PPH know otherwise.

The PPH says to get a spirometry test to measure lung function before choosing this method. I'm trying to envision how a larger bag would make a difference and I'm not following your logic on that, particularly bc the bottom
Will be snug but not sealed regardless. Best of luck to you whatever you choose.

Oh right,sorry.I got this wrong!.
Lol.I'm having a space cadet day

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

Oh right,sorry.I got this wrong!.
Lol.I'm having a space cadet day

Lol no worries .

 

[sm1the]

Exactly. That is what I wrote. Thank you for reiterating.

False. Those who have read the PPH know otherwise.

The PPH says to get a spirometry test to measure lung function before choosing this method. I'm trying to envision how a larger bag would make a difference and I'm not following your logic on that, particularly bc the bottom
Will be snug but not sealed regardless. Best of luck to you whatever you choose.

Oh right,sorry.I got this wrong!.
Lol.I'm having a space cadet da

Exactly. That is what I wrote. Thank you for reiterating.

False. Those who have read the PPH know otherwise.

The PPH says to get a spirometry test to measure lung function before choosing this method. I'm trying to envision how a larger bag would make a difference and I'm not following your logic on that, particularly bc the bottom
Will be snug but not sealed regardless. Best of luck to you whatever you choose.

CTB Happens regardless of COPD though,it's the time and comfort that may be affected.
Also,I think I read restrictive lung disease is the bigger impediment(difficulty exhaling?)

 

[TheEmptyVoid]

Lol no worries .

Did you ignore me? Why

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

Because of continuous gas flow or what?

Exactly, & so the carbon dioxide being exhaled can escape. The gas comes in at the top of the bag, pushing the exhaled carbon dioxide down and out at the opposite end.

Did you ignore me? Why

Lol, never.

 

[Talvikki]

According to Philip Nitschke, nitrogen hypoxia, e.g. with a plastic exit bag, always works... but if lung function is significantly compromised, so that deep inspiration/expiration is impossible (as in emphysema), the process is slower in leading to loss of consciousness, and panic may occur. This occasionally leads people to think 'something is wrong' 'fearing failure'... and then abandon the method by pulling off the exit bag.