Venting Every method f*cking sucks. Period.

[L'absent]

I second this

SN is hyped so much for no good reason. People claim peacefulness, when every single attemt involves puking. And then there is a days long protocoll with specific timestamps and additional medication required.

I feel like SN is a method that people want to make work and has no inherent potential of peacefulness by itself.
SN might still be relativeley peaceful option, but it cant compeat with something like inert gas.

This goes for accessability and easy of use.

Sodium nitrite is so popular primarily because of its extreme availability and accessibility, factors that make it a common choice for many people. However, its use comes with numerous issues: not only are the side effects often unpredictable, but the process itself can be long, painful, and uncertain. Vomiting, tachycardia, a sense of suffocation, and other symptoms can occur without any guarantee of a final outcome, leaving room for doubt and prolonged physical suffering.

In contrast, hydrogen sulfide (H₂S) at extremely high concentrations, above 800-1000 ppm, stands out for its speed and effectiveness. At these levels, it causes unconsciousness within seconds, followed by death within minutes, without the person being aware of what is happening. This makes it, from a technical perspective, a much more direct and "certain" method. There are none of the uncertainties, discomforts, or physical suffering associated with sodium nitrite. With hydrogen sulfide, the outcome is practically guaranteed, leaving no room for painful experiences or unforeseen complications, making it, in a direct comparison, a significantly more "effective" choice than sodium nitrite.

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

This is all bs. Every method is sh*t.

Every method - available to us - is shite.

 

[Bruce]

I agree. Although I think jumping from a very high building onto solid ground like concrete is one of the most fail-safe and accessible methods, is it not?

Hmm.. I think, statistically speaking, death from gunshot and hanging are the most reliable methods to end oneself.

The point of dying is quite literally inflicting enough damage on your body until the point it can't stand it anymore, so yeah, that's why imo. Stressing your body (which isn't a basic organism) until death is not something easy and straightforward.

Precisely! Our bodies are a biological marvel! Oh the things that we could do if we only wanted to be good instead of trash. : (

Very true. The only one I can imagine myself hopefully doing successfully is hanging even though I know the experience is going to be pretty painful.

That's my method of choice as well but I don't think about the pain, I just focus on the steps.

 

[Intoxicated]

And in any case, it's absurd to constantly complain about the lack of "fast and certain" methods while simultaneously boycotting every method except SN, hanging, and a select few others. Naturally, this leads to stagnation and obscurity. Those who contribute to their own problems have no one to blame but themselves.

A few years ago I came across with a prolifer's web-site which I found by searching for suicide methods. Obviously, it was very well SEO-optimized, because it was among the top results in the Google search output. It described several popular CTB methods in a very negative light, trying to convince readers that all methods are incredibly bad. The conclusion in the authors' narrative was that if you have suicidal thoughts, then you have no choice but living, since all methods of killing yourself are unreliable, painful, horrific, etc. I found this primitive manipulation very funny back then.

Now, whenever I see people constantly complaining about a lack of decent CTB methods after months or even years sitting on this forum, I feel like getting back to that web-site and then I just want to slap someone's cheeks )))

 

[Eudaimonic]

Not every method, but there is a dearth of good ones for sure once you take into account reliability (which I'd argue subsumes speed), accessibility/practicality, peacefulness, probable complications should you survive, and weight them accordingly.

Of course, this is the result of the prohibitionist society that we live in. No access to Sarco pod, no access to short-acting barbiturates, limited access to firearms in many places, risk of being "rescued" that requires meticulous planning to mitigate.

I second this

SN is hyped so much for no good reason. People claim peacefulness, when every single attempt involves puking. And then there is a days long protocoll with specific timestamps and additional medication required.

I feel like SN is a method that people want to make work and has no inherent potential of peacefulness by itself.
SN might still be relativeley peaceful option, but it cant compeat with something like inert gas.

This goes for accessability and easy of use.

Whilst I agree with many of the sentiments you've expressed, SN is for many people their only alternative to something like full suspension or jumping, if even that. As someone once put it, it's oftentimes the "best of a bad bunch." People may have a preference to poison themselves, but there are not many (fairly) reliable poisons that both remain legal and accessible and are not agonizingly painful. So, I believe it is indeed overhyped, but not for no good reason.

Moreover, of course it cannot compete with inert gas in terms of reliability and peacefulness, but ease of execution, cost, overall accessibility, and/or storage can be prohibitive for many people (me included).

I agree. Although I think jumping from a very high building onto solid ground like concrete is one of the most fail-safe and accessible methods, is it not?

You cannot control the angle of impact nor can you deliberately land on your head once SI kicks in, so, not really.

 

[JesiBel]

It may sound crazy what I'm going to say, but if society condemns the possibility of ending our existence in a legal and peaceful way, will society be in favor of total organ donation so that others can continue living? It's a win-win situation, those who want to continue living will have organs available and those who want to leave this world once and for all will be able to do so.

It's cruel to force someone to continue living a miserable life, it makes me very angry.

 

[last_wink]

Any method requires a plan, some with money, more or less preparation etc. And debating on methods is endless. Many of us could arrive to the point of thinking "damn it's all complicated" or "painfull" whatever, as we wished to have a simple "off button".

Suicide appears violent, painful, complicated etc. In some ways it appears so. But in reality we are fragile animals; we forget it in our modern life, but we are very fragile and people die everyday when they don't want to. We overthink the process of dying, the pain it would occur, some even fear the eventual "after".

The more we will scare ourseleves about that the less we are able to make it. So much people here venting everyday how life is hard and painful, but let themsleves be so scared about the process of dying, imagining awful pain when in fact they don't really know about and when in fact many methods provides very fast death without much sufferings, make me think they are just closed in complaining and negative view of everything. If life is so hard and painful to handle, many methods provides a quick way out to end this.

I'm not judging anyone, i'm scared too, i overthink too but i think it's not rational. And for sure, venting on how it's difficult to die will provide nothing but just making oursleves more scared about doing it. Vicious circle. So muchpeople did suicide and do everyday. I think any of us can make it, just need few seconds of courage, a little impulse nothing more.

 

[babouflo201223]

Le nitrite de sodium est si populaire principalement en raison de son extrême disponibilité et de son accessibilité, facteurs qui en font un choix courant pour de nombreuses personnes. Cependant, son utilisation s'accompagne de nombreux problèmes : non seulement les effets secondaires sont souvent imprévisibles, mais le processus lui-même peut être long, douloureux et incertain. Des vomissements, une tachycardie, une sensation d'étouffement et d'autres symptômes peuvent survenir sans aucune garantie d'un résultat final, laissant place au doute et à des souffrances physiques prolongées.

En revanche, le sulfure d'hydrogène (H₂S) à des concentrations extrêmement élevées, supérieures à 800-1000 ppm, se distingue par sa rapidité et son efficacité. À ces niveaux, il provoque une perte de connaissance en quelques secondes, suivie de la mort en quelques minutes, sans que la personne ne se rende compte de ce qui se passe. Cela en fait, d'un point de vue technique, une méthode beaucoup plus directe et « sûre ». Il n'y a aucune des incertitudes, des désagréments ou des souffrances physiques associés au nitrite de sodium. Avec le sulfure d'hydrogène, le résultat est pratiquement garanti, ne laissant aucune place aux expériences douloureuses ou aux complications imprévues, ce qui en fait, en comparaison directe, un choix nettement plus « efficace » que le nitrite de sodium.

Scuba could be my method but I I'm scared, especially with the fear that something doesn't work and that it could need more time than said to fall unconscious. H2S, I don't remember if it's irritating/burning or not... ??? Already asked that but I forgot. And how to prepare that and where ? Isn't it dangerous for other people (exemple people who find the dead body) ? Is there a file about H2S or not ? Precisions would be welcome. Anyway, yes, I feel the fear, certainly I'm not ready to CTB and want to stay alive for the moment.

 

[Depressive_Thoughts]

Death isn't supposed to be a pleasing experience.
I wouldn't blame the methods anyway, moreso our circumstances that brought us here.

That's a good answer, bro

 

[MatrixPrisoner]

If it was easy, this planet would probably have about 99 percent less people on it right now.

 

[turnaround]

I e come to terms with the fact that there is no painless method to ctb.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

It may sound crazy what I'm going to say, but if society condemns the possibility of ending our existence in a legal and peaceful way, will society be in favor of total organ donation so that others can continue living? It's a win-win situation, those who want to continue living will have organs available and those who want to leave this world once and for all will be able to do so.

It's cruel to force someone to continue living a miserable life, it makes me very angry.

Total organ donation would really be a win-win situation because they cannot use your organs when they find your corpse after hours. To achieve total organ donation you have to be anestetized in a hospital bevore evisceration. But there could be abuse and it would excluse old people with worn out organs.

 

[Temporary Breakway]

Right?
Every method is either hard to achieve or requires going through immense pain.
I wish there was a button I could press to leave—no pain, just disappear.

I introduce to you: 12 gauge shotgun
Pressed against the area behind the ear or inside the mouth and it will be instant lights out
Nothing but bliss
Will fuck up the corpse but if you ask me the less recognizable you are the better

 

[whyidon'tknow]

Suicide is hard. Life is hard. Choose your hard