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Odemortis

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Apr 14, 2025
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The standard voltage in Romania is 230V, enough to kill if:

the current passes through the heart (e.g. you touch it with a wet hand),

you are well grounded (you stand barefoot on wet tiles, etc.),

the wires are touched with both hands (the current passes through the body).

In this case, the heart can go into ventricular fibrillation, a fatal heart rhythm disorder. Death can occur within 1–2 seconds without intervention. This is from chat gpt.

But is a bit more complicated

In alternating current (AC), as in household installations:

Phase (L) = the wire through which the current comes from the mains (it has 230V to earth)

Neutral (N) = the return wire; ideally it has 0V

Earthing (PE) = protective wire, directs the dangerous current to earth

If you touch the phase and you are earthed (e.g. barefoot on wet tiles) → the current passes through you → possibly fatal.

If you only touch the neutral and the installation is correct, nothing happens to you.

If you touch the phase and the neutral at the same time → it's like you become the electrical appliance → current passes through you.

If you ask in a broad sense — "what's the phase with all this?":

The phase is that electrical installations are unforgiving.

It seems trivial: sockets, wires, a little water — but the right combination leads very quickly to death if you're not careful.

General safety tip:

Turn off the fuses in the panel if you are going to reach sockets, lamps, etc.

Use a voltage tester.

Never work barefoot, wet or with wet hands.

Install a residual current device (RCD/DDR) – it saves lives. Anyway sounds painful af but if is true if is 2-3 sec than damm so fast
Any electricians here for opinions ?
 
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Praestat_Mori

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Anyway sounds painful af but if is true if is 2-3 sec than damm so fast
Any electricians here for opinions ?
I'm not an electrician but I highly doubt that the heart stops working within 2-3 secs - that's only in theory! In reality, this never happens 230V is "nothing" compared to 2-3kV (about 10x 230V) that is used to kill people on the electric chair and this takes a lot longer than 2-3 seconds.

Occasionally people also survive thunderbolts.
 
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Odemortis

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I'm not an electrician but I highly doubt that the heart stops working within 2-3 secs - that's only in theory! In reality, this never happens 230V is "nothing" to 2-3kV (about 10x 230V) that is used to kill people on the electric chair and this takes a lot longer than 2-3 seconds.
But they are not wet and not standing on wet floor tile this I think is important for faster current work.
 
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Praestat_Mori

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May 21, 2023
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But they are not wet and not standing on wet floor tile this I think is important for faster current work.
Afaik, a condemd's head is shaved, a wet sponge (soaked with salt water) is is put on his head and fixed with one electrode and the leg is fixed to the electrode. In theory the best way for the current to go through the body and the heart. The current takes random ways and usually rarely exatly through the heart. That is why it usually isn't a fast and painless death.

Floor tiles are insulators and have a high electrical resistance compared to standing on a grounded metal plate for example.
 
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Odemortis

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Afaik, a condemd's head is shaved, a wet sponge (soaked with salt water) is is put on his head and fixed with one electrode and the leg is fixed to the electrode. In theory the best way for the current to go through the body and the heart. The current takes random ways and usually rarely exatly through the heart. That is why it usually isn't a fast and painless death.

Floor tiles are insulators and have a high electrical resistance compared to standing on a grounded metal plate for example.
yeah my bad is better wet grounded metal plate
 
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lonesomedefeat

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Sep 17, 2024
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Given enough time, 230 volts can be fatal, especially if you take steps to reduce your body's resistance. But the thing is, electricity can be unpredictable at times, and whether its fatal or not depends on alot of factors, like the placement of the 'electrodes', your body's resistance, whether you have GFCI outlets or not, etc.

Honestly, like @Praestat_Mori said, 230 volts is not that high of a voltage, relatively speaking. And even if does manage to be fatal, the it will be extremely painful for the whole time (which will be closer to a couple of minutes at minimum rather than 2-3 seconds) as alongside the pain from the electricity running through you, you'll also be getting deep electrical burns, especially at the site where the electrodes are attached. Oh and your body will be an electrocution hazard for anyone that finds you.

I considered this method aswell a while back, but decided against it because of all the reasons above; it's not a peaceful method at all.
 
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Odemortis

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Given enough time, 230 volts can be fatal, especially if you take steps to reduce your body's resistance. But the thing is, electricity can be unpredictable at times, and whether its fatal or not depends on alot of factors, like the placement of the 'electrodes', your body's resistance, whether you have GFCI outlets or not, etc.

Honestly, like @Praestat_Mori said, 230 volts is not that high of a voltage, relatively speaking. And even if does manage to be fatal, the it will be extremely painful for the whole time (which will be closer to a couple of minutes at minimum rather than 2-3 seconds) as alongside the pain from the electricity running through you, you'll also be getting deep electrical burns, especially at the site where the electrodes are attached. Oh and your body will be an electrocution hazard for anyone that finds you.

I considered this method aswell a while back, but decided against it because of all the reasons above; it's not a peaceful method at all.
Thnaks for the response yeah if is not like 2 or 3 secounds than is not a good one.
 

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