DSL Welfare Check Happened - UK

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Just had the same happen. Unusual, must have been leak or something

No idea but also similar time, didn't even order this year, I think more checks are coming. If I had to guess they tracked the sender, as the same one was used every time. Some ___________

you posted some info about dsl address other governments could use to welfare check and steal our sn. i put an _____ instead in the quote to your post

didn't use my real name but they asked for me by name so weird…

these oppressive government monsters are going to a lot of trouble to harrass suffering suicidal people and steal a legal product . another reason for me to kill these cells they call a human body i'm trapped in : the evil oppressiveness of this world. so i'm suffering badly and will suffer extreme torture if i don't kill myself soon . so they criminalize Nembutal , arrest the ONE Nembutal reliable seller"N from D" . then i go through the trouble of finding something Sn not painless like Nembutal to escape hell and extreme torture . but they want to harras me for wanting to escape extreme torture and steal my escape ."you can't escape extreme torture but have to suffer ". why ? for what reason? why can't i purchase a legal product and drink it to escape a hell a trillion times worse than anyone could imagine? me drinking something and killing these monstrous cells they call a human body won't affect anyone else. also i'm going to die anyway. why ?why can't i ? i know but it's so evil also beyond imagination. who would want to live in such an evil world as slaves? not me .

 

[SDB]

I ordered from a source but I don't know if it's DSL, is this happening in Canada?

 

[fightclub17]

Is this happening in AU?

 

[fadedghost]

What's crazy about this is that the police are going to kill a lot of people who were suicidal and had SN, but were on the fence about taking it, and just liked having the option.

There will be people who will end up just taking their SN because of this.

Spoiler

didn't use my real name but they asked for me by name so weird…

Did you use a fake name that you had used before? Are you the only one in your residence that has a history of suicide attempts?

Did you use anything like WhatsApp to contact DSL? Because WhatsApp is linked to hardware identifiers in a phone, and so if you use a phone for something like banking and also use WhatsApp, WhatsApp is completely sure of who you are.

WhatsApp is owned by Meta, which is the same as the government. Any claims of encryption or privacy in WhatsApp are a complete lie. Meta lies about everything because they are secretly owned by/created by the government.

I stupidly admitted I bought it for suicide purposes. As the Crisis Team told me it couldn't be confiscated I thought I'd be safe to tell the truth. Unfortunately was not the case.

What did you tell them when they came? If I could go back in time I'd have told them that I disposed of it already

Mental health professionals always lie. They can't be trusted.

 

[Dot]

What's crazy about this is that the police are going to kill a lot of people who were suicidal and had SN, but were on the fence about taking it, and just liked having the option.

There will be people who will end up just taking their SN because of this.

Tht happnd in 2023

A usr ws tramtisd frm thr polce vist & thy drnk thr SN shrtly aftrwrds & passd awy

 

[thelostautistic]

What's crazy about this is that the police are going to kill a lot of people who were suicidal and had SN, but were on the fence about taking it, and just liked having the option.

There will be people who will end up just taking their SN because of this.

100% agree with you. I was gonna take mine in the summer or autumn but now I'm panicking that the police will come back so I'm thinking about taking it sooner.

 

[Dot]

100% agree with you. I was gonna take mine in the summer or autumn but now I'm panicking that the police will come back so I'm thinking about taking it sooner.

D/ nt mke n.e irrevrsble decsns whle panckng

 

[fadedghost]

100% agree with you. I was gonna take mine in the summer or autumn but now I'm panicking that the police will come back so I'm thinking about taking it sooner.

Honestly, I am thinking about it too. My shit is hidden incredibly well and not with me, but I'm still afraid of involuntary care.

Spoiler

I didn't get mine from DSL, who refused to sell to me, but I still got it sent to my name in a different country. I might be too easy to find right now and am thinking of taking off, going traveling for a while, maybe living out of a suitcase.

100% agree with you. I was gonna take mine in the summer or autumn but now I'm panicking that the police will come back so I'm thinking about taking it sooner.

What country are you in?

Are these welfare checks just in the UK?

Everyone should also be aware that there is probably someone from police watching these posts. Don't include anything identifying when posting. Just saying a country probably isn't enough to be identifying. It would help to know how many checks the countries are happening in.

 

[thelostautistic]

What country are you in?

Are these welfare checks just in the UK?

I'm in the UK

 

[fadedghost]

I didn't use my address, or even my full name and they still found me. So so unusual

Spoiler

Did you chat with DSL by WhatsApp or some sort of App on your phone? Meta stores everything forever and WhatsApp is linked to identifiers in the phone that may be linked with other things like banking.

didn't use my real name but they asked for me by name so weird…

It would help to know if you used WhatsApp or if you used an email linked to you. Police may have requested copies of any WhatsApp messages and WhatsApp would have to comply. WhatsApp likely knows your real name. If you used a different non-Meta App or email for communication, they may have figured out who you are based on browser fingerprints if you didn't use Tor Browser, since data brokers collect browser fingerprints and police sometimes buy them as part of investigations.

Police may have also tracked payment method (ie, if DSL accepted a certain type of payment, and it could be linked to certain people's real identities).

yes i'm watching on my ring camera. i'm away from the uk but i can see them poking about. my poor housemate is speaking to them and helping them look. i left my room in a state

You said you're away.

I was considering attempting once and someone requested a welfare check on me. I saw the police and figured they were looking for me and took off and was gone for quite a while. When I came back, they immediately involuntarily hospitalized me.

Just be careful with going back. Do not assume that they won't hospitalize you immediately, even if it's been a week or a month.

If you didn't use your real name, and they asked for you by name, and if they didn't have the SN, they may be basing this off your phone if you used WhatsApp or something like that, which can be harder to prove since they may not be able to prove whether it was you or a friend that was using the phone. But they can probably commit you anyway, even without that.

Is this only happening in one country or are other countries impacted? I'm about ready to grab my go back and get the fuck out of where I live if this is happening worldwide and just go travel under a fake name for a while.

VPNs will not protect you from a government that wants to find you. Trust me.

I've had this experience too. VPNs protect you from data brokers collecting data on your IP. It doesn't protect you from data brokers fingerprinting your web browser and it doesn't protect from targeted government attacks. Tor Browser can help with some of these things, but with the Tor network, anyone can set up a server and it's likely many, but not all servers, are controlled by some governments, so there are risks in using Tor Browser too.

Most ISPs sell packet data to governments also and so they can correlate information based on packets. So if your home IP address has an encrypted packet pattern of PACKET (nothing) (nothing) PACKET PACKET PACKET PACKET (nothing) PACKET PACKET (nothing) and then incoming packets to DSL's website has a pattern of has a pattern of PACKET (nothing) (nothing) PACKET PACKET PACKET PACKET (nothing) PACKET PACKET (nothing), then they will guess correctly it's you. This is a simplification of how packet analysis works, but most ISPs sell their packet data because it brings in revenue, and the biggest buyers are often large companies that have contracts with the government and likely are processing it and selling to the government.

There's not much information on whether having other stuff going on (like watching TikTok in another window while using Tor Browser) confuses traffic analysis or whether multiple streams can be easily linked.

 

[SilentSadness]

That's very cruel and irresponsible behaviour by the police. Unfortunately, in the UK the police work for a surveillance state and are widely distrusted by the people. Sending police to torment people at night is just extremely irresponsible behaviour, that could potentially drive someone to suicide. I'm sorry for your horrible situation, hopefully the next government could sort out these good-for-nothing police officers.

 

[jojobanana]

What's crazy about this is that the police are going to kill a lot of people who were suicidal and had SN, but were on the fence about taking it, and just liked having the option.

There will be people who will end up just taking their SN because of this.

Spoiler

Did you use a fake name that you had used before? Are you the only one in your residence that has a history of suicide attempts?

Did you use anything like WhatsApp to contact DSL? Because WhatsApp is linked to hardware identifiers in a phone, and so if you use a phone for something like banking and also use WhatsApp, WhatsApp is completely sure of who you are.

WhatsApp is owned by Meta, which is the same as the government. Any claims of encryption or privacy in WhatsApp are a complete lie. Meta lies about everything because they are secretly owned by/created by the government.

Mental health professionals always lie. They can't be trusted.

Yes I'm the only one that is known to have suicide attempts. And yes I used whatsapp:/ im not surprise they're this invasive.

but i'm lucky they didn't find mine. they found a hair product i got from my home country and thought it was the "suicide kit". they have no clue what it looks like. they didn't find it and left. but i have a feeling they will be back so i will likely give them one of the parcels if they persist and keep the rest. i have no intention of letting my sn go.

Spoiler

Did you chat with DSL by WhatsApp or some sort of App on your phone? Meta stores everything forever and WhatsApp is linked to identifiers in the phone that may be linked with other things like banking.

It would help to know if you used WhatsApp or if you used an email linked to you. Police may have requested copies of any WhatsApp messages and WhatsApp would have to comply. WhatsApp likely knows your real name. If you used a different non-Meta App or email for communication, they may have figured out who you are based on browser fingerprints if you didn't use Tor Browser, since data brokers collect browser fingerprints and police sometimes buy them as part of investigations.

Police may have also tracked payment method (ie, if DSL accepted a certain type of payment, and it could be linked to certain people's real identities).

You said you're away.

I was considering attempting once and someone requested a welfare check on me. I saw the police and figured they were looking for me and took off and was gone for quite a while. When I came back, they immediately involuntarily hospitalized me.

Just be careful with going back. Do not assume that they won't hospitalize you immediately, even if it's been a week or a month.

If you didn't use your real name, and they asked for you by name, and if they didn't have the SN, they may be basing this off your phone if you used WhatsApp or something like that, which can be harder to prove since they may not be able to prove whether it was you or a friend that was using the phone. But they can probably commit you anyway, even without that.

Is this only happening in one country or are other countries impacted? I'm about ready to grab my go back and get the fuck out of where I live if this is happening worldwide and just go travel under a fake name for a while.

I've had this experience too. VPNs protect you from data brokers collecting data on your IP. It doesn't protect you from data brokers fingerprinting your web browser and it doesn't protect from targeted government attacks. Tor Browser can help with some of these things, but with the Tor network, anyone can set up a server and it's likely many, but not all servers, are controlled by some governments, so there are risks in using Tor Browser too.

Most ISPs sell packet data to governments also and so they can correlate information based on packets. So if your home IP address has an encrypted packet pattern of PACKET (nothing) (nothing) PACKET PACKET PACKET PACKET (nothing) PACKET PACKET (nothing) and then incoming packets to DSL's website has a pattern of has a pattern of PACKET (nothing) (nothing) PACKET PACKET PACKET PACKET (nothing) PACKET PACKET (nothing), then they will guess correctly it's you. This is a simplification of how packet analysis works, but most ISPs sell their packet data because it brings in revenue, and the biggest buyers are often large companies that have contracts with the government and likely are processing it and selling to the government.

There's not much information on whether having other stuff going on (like watching TikTok in another window while using Tor Browser) confuses traffic analysis or whether multiple streams can be easily linked.

Your info is very helpful thanks. if they try to do that i will just take that opportunity to take the stuff. but i'm hoping they will listen because i've told them im getting help from my gp

 

[leoneliona]

I wonder if a locked safe would be a smart investment? I'm not sure how the UK's laws function in that regard though.

 

[neverexistedd]

lol what a dystopic country, I'm glad I don't live there it sounds like hell

 

[Sims]

I've thought about this all day and just become more and more angry. I didn't think it was an offence to possess and that admitting to having it wouldn't cause me issues. Mistake. Its illegal to posess if intentions are to use as a poison. So I just gave it up rather than face arrest and search. At gone fucking 1am, banging my door down. Neighbours must think I'm fucking El Chapo or something. I work full time and have been exhausted today. Imagine getting arrested and trying to explain that away as to why I'm not at work.
I had to speak to out of hours MH team and it all took forever.
Pretty pissed off.
So if you get the knock DO NOT ADMIT IT. Just say it never arrived.
And this must be a breach on the sellers part - I used Whatsapp shop, so my details have never been sent via my ISP/email.

 

[Final Journey]

I've thought about this all day and just become more and more angry. I didn't think it was an offence to possess and that admitting to having it wouldn't cause me issues. Mistake. Its illegal to posess if intentions are to use as a poison. So I just gave it up rather than face arrest and search. At gone fucking 1am, banging my door down. Neighbours must think I'm fucking El Chapo or something. I work full time and have been exhausted today. Imagine getting arrested and trying to explain that away as to why I'm not at work.
I had to speak to out of hours MH team and it all took forever.
Pretty pissed off.
So if you get the knock DO NOT ADMIT IT. Just say it never arrived.
And this must be a breach on the sellers part - I used Whatsapp shop, so my details have never been sent via my ISP/email.

I'm sorry this has happened to you. What I find weird that it is currently limited to the UK if there was a breach on the sellers part one would assume that people in other countries would also get welfare checks.

 

[thelostautistic]

I've been so anxious and angry all day about this whole thing. I told the police I threw mine away. Do you think they'll come back? I don't know what to do