Help Dry Ice In A Bathroom

[pokerkitty]

I've recently read some articles regarding a man who CTB using dry ice in a bathroom.

Suicide by carbon dioxide - PubMed

Suicides by self-poisoning are common in all parts of the world. Among these intoxications, gases are rarely used, especially carbon dioxide (CO2). Very few cases of self-inflicted and deliberate carbon dioxide poisonings have been reported. This paper presents two uncommon suicides by carbon...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I have read on this forum that breathing in dry ice directly is highly unpleasant, so using it in an exit bag would be a terrible idea. However, even a 10% concentration in the air is enough to kill.

If I locked myself in a shower or bathroom stall, sealed the gap below the door, and had a large amount of dry ice in the room with me, would it be enough to CTB?

 

[EyesOfNight]

Possibly. If you want to test how this would feel just put a plastic bag(with air inside) over your head. The CO2 concentration will rise(not indefinitely) the longer you have it on.

 

[Placo]

It's a method that I also thought about but in the end I didn't seriously consider, I still use one that makes you die due to CO2.

 

[pokerkitty]

It's a method that I also thought about but in the end I didn't seriously consider, I still use one that makes you die due to CO2.

Is there a reason you didn't seriously consider it?

I've heard of other CO2 based methods but unfortunately I live in a dorm with a very sensitive smoke detector.

 

[Placo]

Is there a reason you didn't seriously consider it?

I've heard of other CO2 based methods but unfortunately I live in a dorm with a very sensitive smoke detector.

Because I can't think of a space that is small enough and because I practically have a similar one which consists of putting a plastic bag over your head and tying it tightly around your neck so that no air can pass through and at the same time handcuffing yourself behind your back to prevent you from to free yourself if the survival instinct was to come out so in the end I preferred the latter because it was more feasible for me.

But with dry ice there could be the advantage that you lose consciousness more quickly I imagine.

 

[willitpass]

The risk with this method is accidentally killing other people. If you live in an apartment or a house with other people, the vents can feed the carbon monoxide to other rooms, potentially hurting or killing other people. In the same way, if you don't leave sufficient warnings on the door to keep people from entering, they could also die when entering the room.

 

[pokerkitty]

Because I can't think of a space that is small enough and because I practically have a similar one which consists of putting a plastic bag over your head and tying it tightly around your neck so that no air can pass through and at the same time handcuffing yourself behind your back to prevent you from to free yourself if the survival instinct was to come out so in the end I preferred the latter because it was more feasible for me.

But with dry ice there could be the advantage that you lose consciousness more quickly I imagine.

That makes sense. Admittedly I don't think I'd have the willpower for that, but I wish you luck

The risk with this method is accidentally killing other people. If you live in an apartment or a house with other people, the vents can feed the carbon monoxide to other rooms, potentially hurting or killing other people. In the same way, if you don't leave sufficient warnings on the door to keep people from entering, they could also die when entering the room.

I've considered this, and it is certainly a concern. The room I am planning on using does not have any ventilation (I live in a pre-WW1 building that doesn't have central air). The way the room is set up, opening the door would immediately cause the CO2 to fill a larger space. Even so, I would leave a note to warn whoever found my body.

 

[Battered_Seoul]

The risk with this method is accidentally killing other people. If you live in an apartment or a house with other people, the vents can feed the carbon monoxide to other rooms, potentially hurting or killing other people. In the same way, if you don't leave sufficient warnings on the door to keep people from entering, they could also die when entering the room.

I think he's talking about carbon dioxide, not carbon monoxide. Carbon dioxide will sink and collect at ground level, I believe. Still, a warning on the door is appropriate.

 

[willitpass]

I think he's talking about carbon dioxide, not carbon monoxide. Carbon dioxide will sink and collect at ground level, I believe. Still, a warning on the door is appropriate.

Floor vents would allow it to travel to lower levels if there were any, and it does still pose a risk for anyone who opens the door. High enough levels could cause someone who walks in to instantly fall unconscious.

 

[Battered_Seoul]

I've recently read some articles regarding a man who CTB using dry ice in a bathroom.

Suicide by carbon dioxide - PubMed

Suicides by self-poisoning are common in all parts of the world. Among these intoxications, gases are rarely used, especially carbon dioxide (CO2). Very few cases of self-inflicted and deliberate carbon dioxide poisonings have been reported. This paper presents two uncommon suicides by carbon...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I have read on this forum that breathing in dry ice directly is highly unpleasant, so using it in an exit bag would be a terrible idea. However, even a 10% concentration in the air is enough to kill.

If I locked myself in a shower or bathroom stall, sealed the gap below the door, and had a large amount of dry ice in the room with me, would it be enough to CTB?

Definitely possible, although I am still not sure of the exact number of KG needed.

I've also seen case reports of dry ice being used inside a plastic bag, which makes sense and seems like a decent try if you have access to some form of sedation and will have difficulty accessing a confined space.

I'm working on arranging this at the moment so I'll try and update.

 

[_AllCatsAreGrey_]

I have been considering this method after learning of a case of someone accidentally drowning after adding a dry ice to a small pool. I'm unsure of the depth, but seemed deep enough to not touch the bottom. The fog of the dry ice was thick above the pool.

Spoiler: Video of the incident referred to. Not graphic, but shows the incident.

Unfortunately, I think that it would be a challenge to fight SI using this method in a tub as one would be able to sit up with ease as the fog stays near the water surface. Even in a small room, the fog will run over the edge of the tub onto the floor.

Spoiler: An Indian YTer dumps dry ice in a pool outdoors. Warning: bad trap music

The risk with this method is accidentally killing other people. If you live in an apartment or a house with other people, the vents can feed the carbon monoxide to other rooms, potentially hurting or killing other people. In the same way, if you don't leave sufficient warnings on the door to keep people from entering, they could also die when entering the room.

Dry ice produces carbon dioxide. It's not dangerous in this way.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

It's the breathing in of the CO2 that triggers the body into panic that it can't get enough air and causes all the unpleasant symptoms from suffocation. I don't think this would be a pleasant way to go, at least not peaceful.

 

[willitpass]

Dry ice produces carbon dioxide. It's not dangerous in this way.

There are reported cases of accidental carbon dioxide poisoning. In large concentrations carbon dioxide can cause rapid toxicity. It may be less common than carbon monoxide but it still isn't safe. As someone who used to work with dry ice, when it starts to fill up a room, it is very potent. People would nearly pass out reaching into the bottom of the dry ice bin if they forgot to hold their breath.

 

[Caliguy]

Is there a reason you didn't seriously consider it?

I've heard of other CO2 based methods but unfortunately I live in a dorm with a very sensitive smoke detector.

you can probably use a shower cap and rubber band to cover the detector

 

[_AllCatsAreGrey_]

There are reported cases of accidental carbon dioxide poisoning. In large concentrations carbon dioxide can cause rapid toxicity. It may be less common than carbon monoxide but it still isn't safe. As someone who used to work with dry ice, when it starts to fill up a room, it is very potent. People would nearly pass out reaching into the bottom of the dry ice bin if they forgot to hold their breath.

Thanks for the info. Sorry for being so dismissive.

 

[miulake]

What a coincidence! Just today I was looking into this exact same paper.

And CO2 can be fatal at 4% concentration I read.
Anyways I was considering something similar but with a chemical reaction of vinegar and baking soda in my bath tub.

Already ordered the ingredients. Will go for a small test run tomorrow just to see how it feels

 

[Battered_Seoul]

What a coincidence! Just today I was looking into this exact same paper.

And CO2 can be fatal at 4% concentration I read.
Anyways I was considering something similar but with a chemical reaction of vinegar and baking soda in my bath tub.

Already ordered the ingredients. Will go for a small test run tomorrow just to see how it feels

What quantity did you order? I think multiple kg's of each would probably be necessary.

 

[miulake]

What quantity did you order? I think multiple kg's of each would probably be necessary.

According to my calculations, 14 liters of vinegar(5%) and 1 kg of Baking Soda should be enough to produce fatal amount of CO2 in my small (6 cubic meter) shower room.
Also bought some tape to seal the ventilation and door gaps

 

[mar122]

According to my calculations, 14 liters of vinegar(5%) and 1 kg of Baking Soda should be enough to produce fatal amount of CO2 in my small (6 cubic meter) shower room.
Also bought some tape to seal the ventilation and door gaps

Is it worked?

 

[miulake]

Is it worked?

The process worked, but I am still around so didn't finish the job obviously.
The feeling of CO2 saturation was really strong. Ended up leaving the shower after a while.

 

[mar122]

The process worked, but I am still around so didn't finish the job obviously.
The feeling of CO2 saturation was really strong. Ended up leaving the shower after a while.

My idea is to mix about 50 grams of baking soda and citric acid in a 50×50×20 cm plastic bag. I smelled the gas before and it was very pungent, so I planned to clamp my nose with a clip and breathe through my mouth, and then wear protective glasses. I want to know whether I should wait for the gas to gather slowly or put it into the bag after it gathers for a while. If I wait slowly, will the feeling be unbearable? How long will it take to lose consciousness (I have almost never lost consciousness or coma) Life is interesting but I can no longer bear its cost.

 

[miulake]

My idea is to mix about 50 grams of baking soda and citric acid in a 50×50×20 cm plastic bag. I smelled the gas before and it was very pungent, so I planned to clamp my nose with a clip and breathe through my mouth, and then wear protective glasses. I want to know whether I should wait for the gas to gather slowly or put it into the bag after it gathers for a while. If I wait slowly, will the feeling be unbearable? How long will it take to lose consciousness (I have almost never lost consciousness or coma) Life is interesting but I can no longer bear its cost.View attachment 153592

You should let it gather slowly. I think trying to put in your head in the bag later will cause a lot of the CO2 to escape away.(If I understood your method correctly)
CO2 concentration causes your body to panic. If you can tolerate it then I think it's fine.

 

[mar122]

可惜不能私聊

You should let it gather slowly. I think trying to put in your head in the bag later will cause a lot of the CO2 to escape away.(If I understood your method correctly)
CO2 concentration causes your body to panic. If you can tolerate it then I think it's fine.

It's a pity that I can't chat privately. I had a strange feeling tonight. I pinched my nose to protect my eyes. I felt my breath was very short, an indescribable feeling, and my hands went numb after two inhalations. I withdrew with an impulse of emotion, an indescribable warmth. I don't get along with my father. I don't want to follow the path my father asked me to take. I might try a higher dose tonight.

 

[maniac116]

Carbon dioxide causes the human body to "crave" oxygen. The body becomes desperate, trying to inhale oxygen. That's an extremely unpleasant feeling. SI will kick in big time.
I would think that it fails over 90% of the time. Honestly, that would be hell

 

[mar122]

If I don't get back next year, I'll either have succeeded or be a vegetable man, haha.

 

[mar122]

Carbon dioxide causes the human body to "crave" oxygen. The body becomes desperate, trying to inhale oxygen. That's an extremely unpleasant feeling. SI will kick in big time.
I would think that it fails over 90% of the time. Honestly, that would be hell

But I'm in a state of hell right now and I'm really sad. I really hope he causes less pain than I think. Too bad I can't private chat, I'm slow to receive messages.

 

[NegevChina]

Its probably not peaceful enough since it didn't reach the PPH list and will cause a panic and lack of oxygen sensation in your lungs. Like when you hold your breath. I wonder if you can freeze CO to a sort of dry ice.
This thread has details of some one testing it: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...d-baking-soda-plastic-bag-asphyxiation.88753/

 

[mar122]

Its probably not peaceful enough since it didn't reach the PPH list and will cause a panic and lack of oxygen sensation in your lungs. Like when you hold your breath. I wonder if you can freeze CO to a sort of dry ice.

There was no way I could get carbon monoxide without people getting suspicious.