Mircea

Mircea

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After months of thinking about my plan to escape this world, I have a full scenario planned. I've not yet decided if and when I will have to carry it out but am now prepared for it. I would like to share it here for feedback and to hear other peoples thoughts on it. Note that, in order to avoid giving too many hints about my identity in case someone could recognize me, I will be deliberately inaccurate with some less relevant details and terms.

Sometime this year, our class will be taking a trip to the ocean and staying at a hotel for a couple of days. Before we return, I plan on going out to drown myself in the ocean late at night, using alcohol to numb my body so I may black out in the water and drown painlessly. My step by step plan is as follows:

First of all, I will skip sleeping the night before the day in which it's going to happen later that night, in order to sleep deprive and tire myself which should further numb me. I also won't be eating or drinking anything 12 to 24 hours before doing it, which should further weaken my body and also reduce the chances of throwing up due to the alcohol. In the meantime, I will be purchasing roughly 500ml of 40% concentrated alcoholic drinks, which based on previous experiences with getting drunk is the amount I suspect should be enough to make me black out without making me throw up. I will be most likely using Vodka as most of my experiences have been with this drink, though for increased efficiency I might mix it with another type.

Around 12:00 AM, I'll be sneaking out and going for a walk to the shore, obviously to a place where I know no one else should come at that hour. I'll consume the first bottle (200ml) before entering the water, which is the amount I've taken to get drunk in the past and only enough to make me dizzy. A few minutes after that I'll step into shallow water, no deeper than around my pelvis area: This is to make sure that if I black out at any point from here on I fall in deep enough water. Here I will attempt to consume the remaining 400ml of drinks... stopping either once I finish them, or if I feel I might throw up whereas my current intoxication seems like enough to shut down my body effectively. The moment I've decided I drank enough, I'm throwing the bottles away and swimming into the ocean, going further and further for as long as I can keep swimming... obviously past where I can still reach the ground while standing.

This is when I imagine the magic happens: As the rest of the alcohol makes its effect while I tire of swimming, I'm suspecting it will be 5 to 15 minutes until I become both unable to keep swimming but also unaware of anything at all. At this level of intoxication, mixed with a missed night's sleep and not eating or drinking for half a day, I should be unable to feel any fear nor anywhere near as much pain as I sink; Suffocating might feel stressful for a few seconds, but the peaceful stage will likely come soon after.

As I seek a method that has no risk of severe permanent damage in case of failure, is acceptably painless, as well as not being gory in any way, this seems like my only solution. I've already researched the differences between drowning in sweet water versus salt water, and people who have nearly drowned confirm it's comparatively much more comfortable in salt water. I love the open water very much, making this my second most preferred way of dying... don't ask what the first one is, I cannot offer that detail here.

What are your opinions? Do you see anything that can go wrong or how it might not succeed? Do you believe drowning should be painless at that level of intoxication? For the purpose of debating the amount of alcohol needed, I'm a male of average height and weight in my mid 20's who does very little exercise.
 
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Soul

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Mircea, although it's not my method of choice I too have thought about drinking whilst actually in the water, but I planned to be out further before drinking most of it. I'm afraid being too thoroughly sloshed before heading out deep would lead me to forget what I was trying to accomplish or leave me sloppily self-pitying or something useless like that.

Also, my experience with mixing kinds of alcohol is that it makes me puke, not that it makes me drunker. I'd rather take some sedatives to accompany the alcohol. But we're all different, so do what's right for you.
 
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Mircea

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Mircea, although it's not my method of choice I too have thought about drinking whilst actually in the water, but I planned to be out further before drinking most of it. I'm afraid being too thoroughly sloshed before heading out deep would lead me to forget what I was trying to accomplish or leave me sloppily self-pitying or something useless like that.

Also, my experience with mixing kinds of alcohol is that it makes me puke, not that it makes me drunker. I'd rather take some sedatives to accompany the alcohol. But we're all different, so do what's right for you.

That's something I would need to be on the lookout for: Alcohol of any sort tends to make me feel sick. Not anywhere near the point of throwing up, but for large amounts that might become a problem. I'd welcome advice on what I can eat or drink to mitigate this effect... I heard a bit of black chocolate helps.
 
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SomebodyBroken

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a good idea, why not ... you can still try hyperventilation + alcohol, it is almost 100% option ...
 
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a good idea, why not ... you can still try hyperventilation + alcohol, it is almost 100% option ...

Good idea, thank you. I might try hyperventilating once I've swam far enough. That is if I will remember anything at that point... once I get there I should be drunk enough to no longer know what reality even is.
 
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SomebodyBroken

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Good idea, thank you. I might try hyperventilating once I've swam far enough. That is if I will remember anything at that point... once I get there I should be drunk enough to no longer know what reality even is.
Well, I also have a sea nearby, but I'm too surviving. even standing on their feet from alcohol, getting a cramp = still swam ...
 
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spanishguy22

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could i use a cheap plastic boat with a cheap rowing stick or something to go deep inside the sea? swimming without a base doesnt sound good to me and i wanted to have a base to shoot myself in the edge of the boat so I then fall down the water. sounds unrealistic but may be theres a way without having to own a private rich boat?
 
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could i use a cheap plastic boat with a cheap rowing stick or something to go deep inside the sea? swimming without a base doesnt sound good to me and i wanted to have a base to shoot myself in the edge of the boat so I then fall down the water. sounds unrealistic but may be theres a way without having to own a private rich boat?

I think they sell cheap inflatable boats in the area. I don't however think I would need one, as I'm a pretty good swimmer. Obviously under the effect of alcohol that will change: My goal is to only be incapacitated once I've gotten far enough.
 
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SomebodyBroken

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I think they sell cheap inflatable boats in the area. I don't however think I would need one, as I'm a pretty good swimmer. Obviously under the effect of alcohol that will change: My goal is to only be incapacitated once I've gotten far enough.
Happy for you ... but how do you decide ascent problem?) still in a state of intoxication to reach the bottom is a little problematic, isn't it?
 
Soul

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Paddle out to sea in a little inflatable raft with a bottle of alcohol, a couple of bricks and duct tape to append them to my feet?
 
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Happy for you ... but how do you decide ascent problem?) still in a state of intoxication to reach the bottom is a little problematic, isn't it?

I'll reach the bottom after I either black out due to the alcohol, or become too tired to keep swimming. One of the two will eventually happen in a matter of minutes after the last bottle.
 
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You're gonna have to be really drunk, like, REALLY drunk for it to be peaceful, otherwise your body will freak out when it realizes it's in a life threatening circumstance.
 
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It sounds like a good plan, theoretically. If someone can induce unconsciousness for a mere 10 minutes, then theoretically it should be painless right? Don't people get serious injuries while they are drunk and they don't even feel it?
 
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You're gonna have to be really drunk, like, REALLY drunk for it to be peaceful, otherwise your body will freak out when it realizes it's in a life threatening circumstance.

I plan to drink 600ml of 35% - 40% concentrated vodka, which I'll probably buy as 200ml bottles since they're more accessible that way. I know from past experiences that 200ml make me dizzy to the point where everything feels like a dream, even if I can walk and talk and do everything normally if I try to: 3x that amount should be enough to lose touch with reality almost entirely, especially after a night of being sleep deprived in addition... but that is if I manage to force myself to drink it all.
 
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It really does sound like a beautiful way to go, especially since it seems like you love the sea, same as me :)
 
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I plan to drink 600ml of 35% - 40% concentrated vodka, which I'll probably buy as 200ml bottles since they're more accessible that way. I know from past experiences that 200ml make me dizzy to the point where everything feels like a dream, even if I can walk and talk and do everything normally if I try to: 3x that amount should be enough to lose touch with reality almost entirely, especially after a night of being sleep deprived in addition... but that is if I manage to force myself to drink it all.
Are you sure that will stop you from feeling you're drowning? You may just be really dizzy but still notice the bad thing. Idk really
 
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Drinking N and then going swimming would be a fool proof method
Agree with spanishguy, don't know if alcohol is strong enough
 
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Are you sure that will stop you from feeling you're drowning? You may just be really dizzy but still notice the bad thing. Idk really

I never got any more drunk than 200ml / 37.5% so I don't know what more than that is like. But I suspect it should have a very powerful effect, to the point where I should become too detached from reality to even aware of my surroundings... I might not even feel myself touching the water at that point. But I guess I will have to wait and see at the time.
 
Superfluous

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This is also my chosen method, with some minor differences.

I used to be a decent swimmer when I was younger, but my fitness level is not great at the moment. I'm therefore planning on using fins to swim out as far as possible. I'll then take benzos + alcohol and ditch the fins, then keep swimming out until they kick in. I will also take some antiemetics beforehand to reduce any risk of vomiting.

My reasons are also similar:
  • not the most peaceful method but acceptable for me
  • reliable
  • greatly reduced risk of SI preventing me from completing the task
  • decent chance my body will not be found
Another good thing about death by drowning for me is that my body will sink to the bottom of the sea, so that I'll effectively be disposing of my own body in a relatively eco-friendly way.

One question for @Mircea: have you checked the times of the tides and/or currents, or do you consider yourself a strong enough swimmer to swim against an incoming tide should that be the case?

I checked the tide times where I am and they are not ideal for the time of day(night) I was originally planning. However, I'll be at my chosen location next week and I'll have between 1-2 weeks to do some practise runs and try and build my fitness up a bit. I haven't been able to figure out the currents yet, but I'll work on that a bit more over the coming days/weeks.
 
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this lingered around my top few methods but a lot of research made me find out it's not as peaceful as it seems. drinking will help but it won't be without the SI. Regardless I hope you find the peace you need. If our world wasn't so retarded we could have euthanasia legalised and not have to resort to these methods
 
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We don't have a strong tidal influence where I'm going. Remember that in this context, ocean / sea / lake are pretty much the same thing... relevant is that it's a giant body of salt water. The water is always peaceful at night... I've taken several walks in the area in the past and am familiar with it.

I don't plan on bringing extra equipment with me as I don't seek to complicate things too much. A boat or inflatable mattress would likely be of little aid, and I likely couldn't drink from one as it would rock me too much and further increase the risk of me throwing up due to the alcohol. I suspect that before the substance fully kicks in, I should still have enough awareness to be able to swim away into the deep on my own... generally I'm a natural in the water.

this lingered around my top few methods but a lot of research made me find out it's not as peaceful as it seems. drinking will help but it won't be without the SI. Regardless I hope you find the peace you need. If our world wasn't so retarded we could have euthanasia legalised and not have to resort to these methods

If the world wasn't so retarded, I wouldn't have to consider doing this in the first place.
 
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Drinking N and then going swimming would be a fool proof method

I plan on doing just that. I hope it works out as desired. It would be amazing to me to have a painless, non -gory death in the beautiful ocean.
 
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Drowning is among my faves, I was drowned by my father as a punishment when I was a kid and it led to deep fascination with water.
Once upon a time I had a 10 kg brick ready but parents took it away before I could use it. I know this one place I go to for holidays that has a lot of deep bodies of water that few people go to. I accumulated some benzos and started practicing bonding my body with rope too. The only downside - water in your airway fucking burns (source: jumped off a bridge twice)
 
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So you're going to hide whole ass bottles of alcohol to bring to a class function, sneak out at midnight (not conspicuous at all?), bypass security and other authorities, such as policemen and beach patrol, etc, and honestly just other nosey humans.. WITH alcohol in hand.. and get drunk, or possibly already be so, and.. drown yourself.
Successfully.

?

Maybe I'm just a pessimistic asshole, but I don't think it works like that. I don't view this as being logical or tactical, for me personally. I'd do something like this if I wanted to be found and locked in a ward for some months.

I apologize, this reply may be useless to you but I.. I bid you the very best of luck with this.
 
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So you're going to hide whole ass bottles of alcohol to bring to a class function, sneak out at midnight (not conspicuous at all?), bypass security and other authorities, such as policemen and beach patrol, etc, and honestly just other nosey humans.. WITH alcohol in hand.. and get drunk, or possibly already be so, and.. drown yourself.

I think you greatly misunderstand the place I'll be visiting. It's an open beach, not a military camp: There is no patrol or security, you just rent a normal hotel and can go out for a walk at any hour like anywhere else. 200ml bottles are very small, you can put one in each pocket and no one will notice, which are sold in boutiques all around the place. There's a strip of beach next to some wilderness where I doubt anyone else goes, that will probably be my spot.
 
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Drowning is among my faves, I was drowned by my father as a punishment when I was a kid and it led to deep fascination with water.
Once upon a time I had a 10 kg brick ready but parents took it away before I could use it. I know this one place I go to for holidays that has a lot of deep bodies of water that few people go to. I accumulated some benzos and started practicing bonding my body with rope too. The only downside - water in your airway fucking burns (source: jumped off a bridge twice)
sorry for your dad, thats so bad...
do you think water drowning isnt that bad? asphixia in general is scary to me because i tried exit bag with nothing and the suffocation felt like shit, really bad. had to tear the bag
 
sunny.sativa

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I think you greatly misunderstand the place I'll be visiting. It's an open beach, not a military camp: There is no patrol or security, you just rent a normal hotel and can go out for a walk at any hour like anywhere else. 200ml bottles are very small, you can put one in each pocket and no one will notice, which are sold in boutiques all around the place. There's a strip of beach next to some wilderness where I doubt anyone else goes, that will probably be my spot.
Ahhh, I apologize. When you said "class trip", I imagined there'd be a fair amount of supervision.
I hope everything falls into perfect place if you decide to go through with this. Peace (:
 
Mircea

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Yeah... I have no comment to the fact that a "father" like that actually exists. Though I must say I admire how you grew to love water, as I'd imagine that experience would make you hydrophobic instead.

I only tried suffocating myself by holding a pillow over my face briefly... obviously not under any hope of dying by doing that, just to see what it would feel like and how far I'd get. It took a bit of effort and was rather uncomfortable. The funny thing I noticed is that, although I stood perfectly still and relaxed, I felt the exact same urge to breathe that you feel after running a marathon and you feel the need to stop to catch your breath.

Ahhh, I apologize. When you said "class trip", I imagined there'd be a fair amount of supervision.
I hope everything falls into perfect place if you decide to go through with this. Peace (:

Like I said, I'm being a bit cryptic on this forum: I'm not very imaginative with names, and I don't want anyone to recognize me and figure out what I'm trying to do. It's more of an organized group trip... the size of the group ranging anywhere between 1 to 1000 people :wink:
 
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Recreational drugs are much better then alcohol. You would have drowned thinking its a good trip.
 
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Or a really bad trip ^. I don't think drowning on mushrooms would be very fun...
 
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